DICE details the "netcode issues" disrupting Battlefield 4, promises more updates

Coming soon: BF4 players will not occasionally be catapulted to their death while sprinting.

Still having problems with Battlefield 4? DICE has written a lengthy post to detail the efforts it's making to address the common netcode issues persisting in the shooter.

The developer spoke about issues relating to rubber banding, kill camera delays and player death synchronisation, tickrates, a lack of damage being accurately registered, and the peculiarly enduring bug of players dying instantly--due to being catapulted--when they try and sprint. Have you encountered any of these recently?

On the way are more patches and updates to hopefully iron out these problems, the developer said. Many fixes relating to all of these issues will be available in the next game update.

DICE also pointed to problems its already solved: kill cards showing 0 health, disappearing crosshairs, hit impact sounds, and a headshot icon.

Also in another update will be new icons that make it easier to determine what's actually going wrong. "We have introduced new in-game icons that will help you, and us, to troubleshoot network related problems that could cause an inconsistent multiplayer experience," adds DICE.

Battlefield 4 was released in October 2013, and was also a launch title for both the Xbox One and PlayStation 4. DICE is still working to smooth out the issues from the game's problematic launch, and at one point announced that work on all future projects would be halted while it worked on the game.

You can read a detailed explanation on the issues behind each of the Battlefield 4 netcode issues over on Battlelog.

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danielcliment
danielcliment

Hi DICE,


Today I tried to play some BF4... the screen looked like an acid trip from hell, random and strobe like and colours,  freaky textures all over the place, is this the new patch i downloaded today? 650MB more or less? I ended up, again playing BF3, awesome game, graphics and very enjoyable. So yea. It would be great to have at least the feeling of spending 80 dollars in a game that actually works....

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

everyone should just switch back to Bad Company 2, it's on sale on Steam right now

thechuck11
thechuck11

This game should've been released this coming fall

Lotus12345
Lotus12345

I play the PC version almost everday, in the beginning it had, yea, alot of bugs. But now while I'm playing it more and more, it gets better and better. Some netcode issues yea, but not to disturbing. No more crashes, no more texture failures, or whatever that could be anoying. The only think I hate in the game, is snipers, oh yea and DMR's. But can't do anything about those hehe. And also, Second Assualt had very minor issues on the PC version for my idea. So keep up the good work DICE, even if you screwed it in the beginning. Hope you guys learned from it for the next time. Hoaah!

djpetitte
djpetitte

Again, thanks for the hard work Dice. Keep it up and don't listen to all the naysayers(this site is full of them). The frostbite is now and will someday be the most advanced FPS engine ever created.   Congrats on that!   You never get to hear the positive because all those players are just having fun with the game and not filling comment sections with hate and rage.  So I feel the need to stand up for you all at Dice because I know how hard you have worked on making the frostbite what it is today.   Keep it up!

tahoetrooper
tahoetrooper

I am not a pro player and I don't play everyday. but when I do sit down to play, I can get through maybe 2 full rounds and 6 more rounds that crash either half way through or right before round ends (so if you had a decent game and were about to get some decent points.... well consider them gone every time it crashes). Since I don't play a lot... I want the points I can get so I can get the better weapons etc.

I understand some people don't experience this mess that others do and if you don't experience these issues.... of course you don't care about our complaining and it probably makes us look like pussys, but I guarantee if you were.... you would be more understanding. be lucky your living close to decent server/ have amazing ping or whatever it is that blessed you with not having these issues.

 Also what I experience is %90 of my games are laggy (about %10 play perfect... everything runs smooth I am not killed in one shot and the animation actually keeps up with me getting shot with each bullet).... amy games seem to be about 1/2 second behind. I say that because I see on my screen that I start shooting someone.... they turn around and kill me with one shot yet their health shows %100 (I red about others experiencing this so I know I am not alone w/ getting this issue). The other day I had to turn it off cause I was standing behind to campers and it took 5 shotgun blasts to kill just one guy as the other one turned around and killed me since I was spending so much time trying to figure out why my shotgun seemed to be shooting airsoft bulets while everyone was playing in god like mode.

 I am not complaining saying the developers are dumb. in no way are they dumb. you cant create a game this awesome and be dumb, retarded, careless etc. I am just frustrated because I paid full price for the game.... I would expect it to run at least to were I don't feel ripped off. 

For those not understanding all this complaining, its like this. You buy a car and then when they give it to you, It has square wheels. well you already paid.... what you gunna do? obviously your gunna complain also. now lets say you bought that car and the only thing wrong was the window was a bit sticky and that's it. well that's a weak complaint... but square wheels.... yes, your gunna hear a lot of anger when the f-up is that big. and I do know for a fact that fixing problems is harder because the detective work these computer engineers have to deal with. I know its not easy and constantly being beat up by the players, media and other groups/ haters/ pissed off humans.... probably wrecks/ takes its toll on the people working to make BF4 better/ playable/ fair. all I can hope for is they take this info/ feedback that the players (their actual customers) and start fresh and make the next Battlefield 5 a great big "hey sorry about battlefield 4 but here is a great game that has everything the critics (regular players) want and love about BF series and this new game is built ground up and fresh and issue free and completely fair no matter your Ping/ internet/ etc"

Also... when this BF4 is glitch.... I just wish there was a bot mode I could play just so I could have some fun playing multiplayer (the only thing that made COD better then BF4. cause a laggy game is way way worse then having to play robots/ computer generated enemys.

grenadehh
grenadehh

DICE doesn't even understand the netcode issues because they are inherent with the Frostbite engine. There's no way to fix them, and they don't care.

Razor10000
Razor10000

finally, after almost 3 years dice is talking about the netcode. i hope dice fixes the netcode 100% and not to bf3 level because bf3 netcode is still bad. if dice fixes bf4 netcode 100% and the bugs, i will buy bf4.

STrugglingFool
STrugglingFool

I thought this was great until I realized what was coming. 2nd Assault DLC. Marketing at it's finest.

Xx_DemonSoul_xX
Xx_DemonSoul_xX

Does anyone even care anymore? This game has been broken since November. EA released another turd and looked the other way. What a surprise?

djpetitte
djpetitte

the game is amazingly fun and the frostbite it top notch.  Dice, you're some of the smartest game developers out there.  Thanks for the hard work and keep it up.  200 hours and counting for me in bf4 with minimal issues.  Most the people have no idea what it takes to create such a complex engine and the timelines that are set by Ea. So ignore all the haters and like I said. Keep up the hard work.

PS.  Do not forget about a 2142 sequel.  

tachsniper
tachsniper

I got Titanfall to worry about, sorry BF4 it's not you it's me... oh wait it is you, see ya

ElJefeDeMedios
ElJefeDeMedios

Sold it after 2 months.  Enjoyed the game despite all the issues.  However, will not buy the next one until at least a month after launch.  That was the last time EA ...

dethtrain
dethtrain

Yay, you get network icons. Weeee

DeadPhoenix86
DeadPhoenix86

that's the reason I gave up on BF4. and started to Play BF3 again, where everything just works :)

EPaul
EPaul

This is getting ridiculous..........

PS4andXoneGamer
PS4andXoneGamer

5 months DICE! Your game has been out for 5 months and you still haven't addressed these key problems. I always knew EA were a disgraceful company but it seems its rubbed off on DICE now to

arqe
arqe

Thats why you should play only Hardcore like i do.

themc_7
themc_7

I get enemies with 0 health all the time. Super frustrating. I technically killed you, but you didn't die. I often times encounter damage not registering. Assault rifles do 30 damage per shot, so when I get 5 or 6 chest hit markers and you don't die....something isn't registering.

b74kd3th
b74kd3th

I think all the patches together have more GB than the game

zerofrust
zerofrust

the game is a patch itself at this point lol

wallacom
wallacom

What about the Single player, EVERY TIME I close the single player the save is gone. I dont have time to pass it in one run. I'm tired I heard the intro song 7 times now. I want those weapons.

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

Experienced rubberbanding and lack of damage being accurately registered last night.

dnmt
dnmt

Don't bother, DICE. I stopped playing your game less than a month past launch. You're a disaster.

MJ-X
MJ-X

Long live beta testers, this is what you get for adopting EA games right when they get released.

Last EA game on release: Crysis.

Nowadays I wait and buy them dirt cheap when on sale and all bugs are ironed out.

djpetitte
djpetitte

@grenadehh

yes, that's it!  they don't care about something they have spend a better part of their lives working on and take pride in. Go home, you're drunk and look foolish. When you can come up with resolutions or create a better engine then come talk, otherwise your comments are pointless.  

grenadehh
grenadehh

@Xx_DemonSoul_xX  I am willing to admit I spend 64 dollars on a piece of shit and will never play it again no matter what, ever. And no, it has nothing to do with PC specs, BF4 did not work in Beta and still doesn't work about 14% of the time (crash wise). Gameplay wise it is still broken, to this day, just like BF3 still was when BF4 came out.

djpetitte
djpetitte

@Xx_DemonSoul_xX

yes a lot of people still care, I am one of them and I play with about 6 friends(pc) on a nightly basis. You people look so foolish calling the frostbite a turd. You are no where near smart enough to ever create something like that yet you can whine like a little girl about it.

grenadehh
grenadehh

@djpetitte  Really I played 200 hours 4 months ago before I even quit that game forever. Different strokes.

techs3ek
techs3ek

@djpetitte  So true ... i mean i agree with the fact that the game need to be improved ... but other than that the game is enjoyable and awesome, it spoiled me so bad i can't play any other shooter ... Battlefield is such a complex that  i think it deserves for than just 2 years development time...

grenadehh
grenadehh

@DeadPhoenix86  Hardly, I've been lag shot horrendously in that game more times than I could imagine, and it's not me, it's the engine.

jagdedge124
jagdedge124

@wallacom Yep. Beat it on Hard, came back the next day to play it again just to get Unlocks and gone. Tried it again, second level, next day, gone again. I tried it last week after ALL the Updates, reached level 4, GONE. Never seen a more defective product. 

I mean the MP is fun, when you get past the Freezing and other issues, but ALL these Updates thus far has been nothing more than "window dressing" to prevent Lawsuits trying to make it look like they're making an effort for an otherwise broken game. Fact is it will never be fixed. 

I'm just done with EA Games. This was it for me as far as BF, and being their Sports Games are in the pooper, i'll stick with MLB The Show 14, and just move on.

ischiasal
ischiasal

@wallacom WTF ITS HAPPENED TO ME , I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT . NEVER HAPPENED TO A GAME  THAT THE SAVE IS GONE ..  Called EA  and they gave me a Battle pack   . U KIDDING RIGHT ?

VendettaEternal
VendettaEternal

@spartanx169x  Just last night? Considering yourself lucky. This game went from probably the most amazingly entertaining FPS I ever played in November even while sucking ass, to getting considerably worse, harder, and my guns not doing anything with literally up to 10 shots sometimes, getting killed behind cover or through immovable objects, having such ridiculous lag that I am teleporting and dying before I can even respond. Im angry because I'm stuck with a bunk game on a brand new console while maxed out on discretionary spending. Thanks DICE and EA assholes, I blame them equally, if not DICE even more (they could have protested, brought attention to being "forced" even though it was DGAF/scapegoat to douchey EA after they get called out on their profit whoring and sympathy mongering with useless patches for non-existent/irrelevant issues for the most part that are eating my memory, bandwidth and most of all, fucking patience. Sorry by the way I am not mad at you at all, total directed at the responsible parties.

themc_7
themc_7

@dnmt  I stopped a week after launch, however the game is now quite playable. I've been back into it for about a month. A large percentage of the problems have been fixed.

tahoetrooper
tahoetrooper

@djpetitte @Xx_DemonSoul_xX

I am not a pro player and I don't play everyday. I like BF4 way better then COD and since I don't play a lot... I want to play whats fun, but when I do sit down to play, I can get through maybe 2 full rounds and 6 more rounds that crash either half way through or right before round ends (so if you had a decent game and were about to get some decent points.... well consider them gone every time it crashes). Since I don't play a lot... I want the points I can get so I can get the better weapons etc.

I understand some people don't experience this mess that others do and if you don't experience these issues.... of course you don't care about our complaining and it probably makes us look like pussys, but I guarantee if you were.... you would be more understanding. be lucky your living close to decent server/ have amazing ping or whatever it is that blessed you with not having these issues.

 Also what I experience is %90 of my games are laggy (about %10 play perfect... everything runs smooth I am not killed in one shot and the animation actually keeps up with me getting shot with each bullet).... amy games seem to be about 1/2 second behind. I say that because I see on my screen that I start shooting someone.... they turn around and kill me with one shot yet their health shows %100 (I red about others experiencing this so I know I am not alone w/ getting this issue). The other day I had to turn it off cause I was standing behind to campers and it took 5 shotgun blasts to kill just one guy as the other one turned around and killed me since I was spending so much time trying to figure out why my shotgun seemed to be shooting airsoft bulets while everyone was playing in god like mode.

 I am not complaining saying the developers are dumb. in no way are they dumb. you cant create a game this awesome and be dumb, retarded, careless etc. I am just frustrated because I paid full price for the game.... I would expect it to run at least to were I don't feel ripped off. 

For those not understanding all this complaining, its like this. You buy a car and then when they give it to you, It has square wheels. well you already paid.... what you gunna do? obviously your gunna complain also. now lets say you bought that car and the only thing wrong was the window was a bit sticky and that's it. well that's a weak complaint... but square wheels.... yes, your gunna hear a lot of anger when the f-up is that big. and I do know for a fact that fixing problems is harder because the detective work these computer engineers have to deal with. I know its not easy and constantly being beat up by the players, media and other groups/ haters/ pissed off humans.... probably wrecks/ takes its toll on the people working to make BF4 better/ playable/ fair.

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

@djpetitte @Xx_DemonSoul_xX ITs not the engine Nobody is complaining about that. It the FACT that they released a game that was not finished.  the game was all but unplayable for over a month after release on all the platforms. And it still screws up. It was messed up last night. I like the game, But its unacceptable for them to release a game like what they have done with this.

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

@djpetitte Additionally, EA games are the ONLY ones I have had problems with like what has happened with BF. And I buy a lot of games. IF you want to buy them and deal with issues, that's your choice. But I will choose to not deal with them.  

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

@djpetitte First of all you do not need to explain anything to me. Second, I have BF3 and purchased it a year after launch and had to do massive updates when I first got it. (glad I didn't buy it at launch). THEY(EA and DICE) are the ones promoting it. If they are going to release games like this, they should also have a notice or disclaimer explaining what to expect. This was my first and last pre-order from EA. I expected more because of the launch of the new systems. This was a great opportunity for them to shine. Instead its been one fix after another, which would not even be bad , except the promoted the hell out of it. IF I buy another game from EA it will be a minimum of 6 months or later if that the way they want to release games. Or I will just wait and buy after they have dropped the price. Before the internet. releasing games in this condition would have destroyed them. Now they use it as crutch. Like I said I like the game. Hell I actually love the game when it works. But I have lost count of the times I quit playing due to issues. And I'm not alone. We as customers do not have to just Accept anything, We have a choice, And next time, my choice will either be to wait or not buy at all.

djpetitte
djpetitte

@spartanx169x

You're not familiar with the BF series are you? Every game Dice has released has been patched and updated.  2142 was patched for almost 2 years I believe, and actually BC2 was more unplayable than BF4 was for the first week. Not saying these are a good thing, but that is the process it has turned into, and that is software across the board. Not just games.  You people need to realize it would be impossible to catch all the bugs before it hits the masses. that's what's tricky about being a software tester.  

The game was very much playable on pc if you know what you're doing, have a good pc and internet connection.  I cannot speak for consoles. In fact since the beta I have near 200 hours and never once was I not able to play and have fun.

If you're playing games like BF and especially on PC. don't ever expect it to be 100% finished upon release. that has never been the case and never will be.  Ea sets the unreasonable timelines not Dice

Everyone here needs to go study up on the software development process before they start posting foolish comments.