Diablo III to experience system changes

Feedback-based tweaks will be seen in latest beta patch of action role-playing game.

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There has been a lot of rumbling about Diablo III as of late, with the most recent being its supposed leaked release date. Game director Jay Wilson recently posted on the official Diablo III blog on Blizzard Entertainment's site saying that the team will also be changing some of the systems it has received the most feedback about from the game's extended beta.

RPG fans may have to wait a little while longer for this third coming.

According to the post, scrolls of identification will no longer be in the game. Instead, a player just has to right-click on an unidentified object and wait a few seconds before its stats are revealed. Wilson also said that the team will remove the Cauldron of Jordan and Nephalem Cube options currently present in the beta. He elaborates that because the Stone of Recall allows players to return to town, keeping the cauldron and cube may not give players enough of an incentive to occasionally return to town. The blacksmith will now also salvage items for players.

Other changes include rearranging core character attributes to the four stats (strength, dexterity, intellect, and vitality), displaying character stats on the inventory user interface, and not making common items salvageable. All the changes will be seen in the latest beta patch. For a detailed explanation of the changes, head to the post on the game's official blog.

Diablo III is the next entry in the action role-playing game franchise. New features include five new classes, new multiplayer modes, and an auction house. For more information, check out GameSpot's coverage of the third game.

Discussion

89 comments
counterintellig
counterintellig

The game is being delayed because they will make more money that way. Period. Details insignificant. That is the only reason they can/will do anything. Profit. Beg for release, peck at details, its all insignificant. My guess? More time in battle = less time away from the real money cash cow. I mean real money horse #*$& Im sorry, I meant real money auction house.

JackHoleFace00
JackHoleFace00

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CTBradums
CTBradums

@Scorpion1813 My thoughts exactly. It was actually an interesting aspect of Diablo games, to find random and rare gear and have that anticipation of waiting to see what it might be. That's what makes them unique. If they're just going to let you click on an identifiable object to identify it, then what's the effing point of making them unidentified to begin with? Either make them identifiable through scrolls or NPCs, or remove the "unidentified" aspect altogether. There's no logic to keeping it if you can just identify them the next second, anyway.

tooki
tooki

@dragondoom01 I love isometric games and I probably wouldn't be a gamer any longer if they ceased to exist.

tooki
tooki

@danamul1 I agree. I was so excited to get into the beta, but then I was so disappointed when I realized that it's no longer an RPG.

danamul1
danamul1

Hope the change to attributes is to allow us to spec them the way we want, ill wait for that.

ferna1234
ferna1234

i have a feeling that diablo 3 will suck so bad

knifey
knifey

just because a game has isometric views doesn't mean anything, one of I feel the greatest games ever made had that view

dragondoom01
dragondoom01

I don't understand why anyone is anticipating this game. D2 was good 12 years ago. The isometric third person view was a technical restraint, computers were just not that powerful. It just seems to me that blizzard is stuck in the past with this one, some games don't need a sequel

megakick
megakick

Fix it now? Im not paying 60 dollars for rushed game.... There are plenty of other dungeon crawlers u can play in the mean time.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

Why even bother having unidentified gear if all you have to do to identify it is simply click on it? What's the point? Either have the scrolls (or ask an NPC to identify it), or completely remove the feature.

raahsnavj
raahsnavj

I really don't know why they bother with so many tweaks like this. It isn't like there aren't going to be patches every week that tweak it some more - to the point the game practically changes every patch. Unless it is horribly broken I see no reason not to start cashing in while they tweak it over the course of its lifetime. Unless of course they are going to grow up about it a bit and actually leave the tweaking out of it after release. But I know Blizzard and fat-chance of that happening.

Fowsed
Fowsed

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volney81
volney81

Just remember... they spent 6 years teasing SC2. D3 is still in year 3. "We'll release it when its done" is just a lame excuse for the suckers. =\

Halloll
Halloll

don't but Cain out of business Blizzard, he's the best NPC in Daiblo.

baal46
baal46

How is it "unidentified" when my character automatically knows what it is? By clicking? No scroll required?

NadCAtarun
NadCAtarun

From the official game's blog: "No one will remember if the game is late, only if it's great." Huh, helloooo? Diablo III already made it on the list of games players waited for FOREVER... Sure, months or even years more won't make much difference, because it's already 10 years late or so. But yeah, I'll never forget that the game was so late as to become legendary by virtue of it.

Vegna_Infamous
Vegna_Infamous

Since Bliizzard tried to fix what wasn't supposed to be fixed in the first place that made Diablo II what it is today, Diablo III is it's own game as it plays differently from what hardcore gamers enjoyed from II. I lost all interest in this game and I congratulate Blizzard on a job well done for ruining such a great franchise. I'm sorry but I had to rant and get this off my chest.

Blue_Tomato
Blue_Tomato

I guess the beta players will be thoroughly bored by the game by the time it finally releases...

ZabuzaR
ZabuzaR

@jhcho2 Ya, I read up about it. But Blizzard originally wanted us to be out in the battlefield more and less time out of towns. And now they have changed that on us. While its not going to ruin the game obviously, to the people who have been in beta this is a big change to us. I don't really feel the need of this considering that you had to go back to the town to turn in quests anyways. So you could do your gear updating and such while you were there. Obviously that may not be the case with all the quests in the game considering that beta only covers the first 3rd of act 1.

samures
samures

i think game coming realy soon may be 1-3 months max also blizzard making the best games in all time so i bleave in them

yurik007
yurik007

For those players who say: we trust you blizzard, it is worth the waiting, you are making games which we all play for years and such bla bla... do not expect the game till christmas 2012 or maybe next year.. I mean what makes you think people, that prevents from blizzard to continue with their Beta stuff and Blizzcons ?? Nothing! same way TBA .... there should be no more place for explanations and propositions which you people go up with to the developers because the game is all ready beyond polishing and it has to be released already cause the true fans are starting to be simply disappointed from such unawareness and unstability for their's wishy-washy decisions which only prolong the release date.

blackfray
blackfray

I don't care about the cauldron, just give us a release date would you?

jhcho2
jhcho2

@ZabuzaR Jay Wilson just responded to that same comment of yours. He said going to town was part of the 'magic' in Diablo games. The cube and cauldron almost literally omited the need to go to town, and as such, the game becomes more monotonous. Going to town every now and then is like a break from the continuous killing. Can't say Jay is wrong though

weedman1985
weedman1985

I find it odd that nobody pointed out that Diablo3 is no longer a diablo game. It's more of a wow clone played in isometric view. Most of the things that were unique to diablo were stripped away and replaced with mechanics that worked in World of Warcraft, and with it, all depth and complexity the previous game had has been thrown out the window in order to dumb it down for the console gamers. Sure this game will probably be fun to play, but this is not what I wanted.

ZabuzaR
ZabuzaR

I don't really understand on removing the cube and cauldron. They were very useful on keeping you into the battlefield and less time in towns. That and the removing of the mystic really took away a lot of customization.

charlieboomboom
charlieboomboom

@Lothos_Delion Yeah you r right, but i just enjoyed diablo 1 more on ps1, than on pc where it felt like an mmo, where u click n watch.

Lothos_Delion
Lothos_Delion

@charlieboomboom Diablo 1 & 2 both used the mouse to control this is a pc game after all. One could only hope they have developed the game as such not like Skyrim where mouse control is well useless.

charlieboomboom
charlieboomboom

i am not playing this with mouse, so hope for a controller option. clicking on screen dosent seem like a challenge.. And a console release would be nice, just release to pc first.. they r a rowdy bunch..

conkerton
conkerton

Loving the idea with no Identity scrolls, but you don't really need a complete revamp of the Cube and Couldren to be removed. Just add a cool down after their use. Keeps people going to town and can help with quick cash issues or selling curiousity.

deathstream
deathstream

Very little of that addresses the massive fundamental flaws that exist in D3 today. The game really needs to go the way of Starcraft: Ghost. The closest comparison to how the game is coming along would be Hellgate: London. The devs just don't care. They have a money-making scheme in place and going to stick with it no matter how bad it is. After playing D3 for months, I am eagerly awaiting Torchlight 2.

WolfGrey
WolfGrey

@SolidTy That USED to be the case for me but SC2 and WoW put a bad taste in my mouth.

lonewolf1044
lonewolf1044

@Yuriki007, I think a lot us have experience with the Diablo series, I expect iteration of Diablo to be different and not the same because it would just be rehashed experiences. I have faith in Blizzard for they do have a very good track record on hits being made even if Activision took them under thier wings. Every game that is made there is always a chance of being bad, mediocre or great and in time, even if it is a little longer and some changes was made and everybody do not feel as you do and see thing differently. I own a very large inventory of games from the beginning of the computer to present so I have experience.

lonewolf1044
lonewolf1044

With the statement about future betas convinced me enough that D3 will not be out anytime soon and I just finished paying off my CE too! However, I want a near bug free game and hope it does not turn out like DNF which had a lot of hype and I know Blizzard's good on it's word, but there is always the first time. A lot of people are sayimg they would take the game as it is now, but if Blizzard did that and there were serious bugs, the same people will be crying "Why did Blizzard release a buggy game!" I rather wait a little longer and then taste the fruits of a finished game.

freestyler_85
freestyler_85

@Spahettificator right on!.. seems redundant... and yeap, Baldur's Gate did it better

Avenger1324
Avenger1324

How about listening to that other piece of feedback? Not needing to be online all the time to play it I played Diablo single player, played Diablo 2 single player, and I plan to play Diablo 3 single player. Multiplayer is an option, not a requirement for this type of game.

kevindm215
kevindm215

stay a while and listen. ahahahah

Buck_Swaggler
Buck_Swaggler

@DragonRift I know, I agree. It was more or less a joke. But honestly I would be willing to buy the game as is now.

FoeCrusher
FoeCrusher

I agree identify scrolls in the end were little more than an extra step in identifying which items were vendor trash and which you might keep.

BloodMist
BloodMist

There's absolutely nothing wrong with listening to feedback and using is to make the game better.That's what betas are supposed to be for, as opposed to mere pre-order incentives.I'm sure somebody will complain about it though.Like you can't die of starvation, so that means it sucks, that sort of thing.

Spahettificator
Spahettificator

So what's the point in needing to identify them in the first place? If you can just right click and poof it's done then there really isn't any point in needing to right click in the first place, unless your ability to identify is linked to your intellect stat, like your Lore value in the Baldur's Gate games (i.e more powerful items need a higher intellect stat and ultra powerful items require Deckard Cain so we can all still enjoy that "Stay a while and listen")

yurik007
yurik007

dear sir or madam (supertom221) 6 years of game development is not a rush.. it is more than approximate time for such game epic game .... everything went fine by 2011 but at the peek of time blizzard afraid to release it due to not fulfilling fans expectation's ... in those cases you just MUST have a decision or else deal with irreversible consequences-finding yourself without a loophole. what was the problem to release it in 2011 (and believe me this game is already polished) and continue working on Add-ons? Also, I have to admit that such weird strategy wont be successful .. This is very poor decision to continue with the beta which I did not had the opportunity to test the game so as MANY MANY others cause its meant to friends or whatever... believe me, I don't really care about that i had not seen it yet but my impression of what I have seen already is telling me that the game is beyond the polishing stages and it had to be released in 2011.... you see i played diablo in 1996 when i was 11, I grew on this game and diablo 2 also included in this case so believe me I know how should Diablo 3 has to be look like and in this very moment i barely trust blizzard due it's scariness....

Spacemancer
Spacemancer

More things to delay D3? I'm a sad panda, hopefully it's worth the wait, I have faith in Blizzard.

vega13mv
vega13mv

"Hello friend, stay a while and listen" "No thanks, I can just click now"

supertom221
supertom221

Well this is interesting. I hope it would get deeper and less like DS3, and I do hope Auction House will be dropped or at least minimized for proper gameplay.

supertom221
supertom221

@yurik007 Yeah, and there's an even heavier price to rushing things.

Soothsayer42
Soothsayer42

Release it on PS3/360 too. With optional mouse/keyboard support.

trdrstv
trdrstv

Let me know when they add the ability to play offline and LAN, until then I'll stick with Diablo 2 and Torchlight 2.

justinka777
justinka777

@Kayweg i agree, it seems like they were trying so hard all this time pounding their head against a wall wondering how to be clever about it that their mental process went in reverse and implemented the dumbest idea possible short of not even having the unidentifiables in the game

yurik007
yurik007

2005-development 2006-development end of 2006 -cancaling previous development 2007-development 2008-development+official announce 2009-development 2010-development 2011-development+TBA 2012 2012-development+TBA 2012 Q1 (2012) - accepting demands+TBA 2012+patches Q2 (2012)- Iterate till Q3 + release date+ middle Q2-TBA Q3(2012) -integrate till middle Q4+patches release date Q4- we still have to iterate over & over again... +TBA (to be continue) 2013-looks boring .... should we try again? As my opinion they should release the game till april .. if not so, they find themselves in a huge maze of iterations .. so make a decision already and always remember there is a "heavy" price for perfectionism. Its like a lecturer asks his students what they want to learn!