Diablo 3 on PS4 supports Remote Play

[UPDATE] Blizzard amends original statement, says game does in fact support Remote Play.

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[UPDATE] Blizzard has amended its original state. The company now says Diablo III on PS4 will support Remote Play.

The original story is below.

Diablo III on PlayStation 4--the Ultimate Evil Edition--does not support Remote Play, at least not right now, senior level designer Matthew Berger told GameSpot at BlizzCon last night.

"Not really. Not for the moment," Berger said.

Part of the reason why comes down to the PlayStation Vita's screen being too small to effectively allow players to view the action and manage their inventories, Berger said.

"The Vita is an amazing piece of kit, but the screen is still smaller," he said. "And when you look at--and also it has its own aspect ratio--and when you look at Diablo III, there's a lot happening on-screen already. You get surrounded by your enemies, lots of effects flying off in every direction. The inventory can be pretty complicated to navigate sometimes when you have lots of items."

Berger did tease, however, that Remote Play support for the PS4 version of Diablo III is something Blizzard continues to think about.

"So it would be a little bit more of stretch. It's kind of percolating in the back of our mind, but we don't really have any plans right now," he said.

Remote Play allows certain console games to be played on the PS Vita. Nintendo offers similar functionality for the Wii U, allowing users to play some games completely off-screen via the GamePad.

Diablo III for PS4 will launch in 2014. Check back later for more from BlizzCon on the next-generation version of Blizzard's dungeon crawler that has sold over 14 million copies.

Discussion

66 comments
Stavrami
Stavrami

hi peeps just to let you know it has been confirmed it is on there go to n4g if you wish to look  it up

GingerFlare
GingerFlare

I want Remote Play.

Let gamers be the judge of what is "too small" or "too busy". Plenty of reviews said that Demon's Crown on PS Vita was "busy" but I had no problems seeing through all the action. And a 2D brawler like that is harder to get the right 'angle' (not sure what word to use there) to nail someone in the face with some arrows. So if that can work...

By comparison Diablo 3 would be a cakewalk. Since lining up attacks in games like it are far easier to do. Plus, there are games like that on Vita already. That overpriced iOS game that's also on PSN... forgot what it's called.

Stavrami
Stavrami

i see a lot of haters in here . you all gonna feel like idiots when this game is remote play the fact is the moment they are making it , it's all ready remote play . why?? you ask, because the ps4 does it automatically the ps4 has a processor that streams it to the vita . wizardry i know :-0 .all blizzard do is map buttons THAT IS ALL , the guy above thinks he has to work on remote play and knows absolutely naff all about it

tebbisimo
tebbisimo

Hey Blizzard, how about you do it anyway and I be the judge of whether I can handle it on screen or not......

BradBurns
BradBurns

Nice to see developers jumping over the whole 'mandatory' thing so early in a console's lifespan.


Very encouraging there Blizzard.

emptycow718
emptycow718

sony "all ps4 games will have remote play"  5 days before launch  sony "Diablo III   wont work with remote play"  sony = lies ...the sony  eye camera is also trash  99% of the stuff sony is saying it can do  will never work  for starters the xboxone kinect cam can do full body tracking  the sony cam cant   the kinect 2.0 can follow your movements in the dark the sony eye cant see you in the dark  in the end you get what you pay for the ps4 and xboxone are going to be awesome  but sony is putting out a system with a weak cam  and a hand full of lies  the ps4 launch is weak  and the sony eye will always be 10 steps behind the kinect 2.0

so_hai
so_hai

13 of the 21 news stories currently here on Gamespot are concerned with Blizzard.

Mommas_b_o_y
Mommas_b_o_y

lame, I don't care that much though cause i'll be too busy with knack, killzone and nfs. This series has gone a little too wow for me.

SIDEFX1
SIDEFX1

There is no use for remote play if it is going to look like mashed potato..

jackiedebs
jackiedebs

Another Sony lie revealed only days before release. If this were any other product, people would be absolutely outraged at all the bait and switch we have been dealing with. Yet because it is a console, people will ignore it, or downplay it, because to complain about a problem, is undermining the "console war effort". This is what fanboyism breeds, lack of accountability for console makers. Once people have chosen their "side", they refuse to hear negativity about it and make excuses for stuff like this. Thank you to all the people who perpetuate this consumerist sheep behavior.

Cloud7794
Cloud7794

To everyone pretending like this signifies bad times for remote play...  It's not as simple as developers just being able to "opt out" of remote play because they don't feel like it. Have you PLAYED Diablo 3 on console? That screen gets so massively full that I was wondering why they didn't expand the visual area a bit. Now trying to squeeze that into a vita would take a LOT of development time to make it work >well<. Sure they could just "turn on" the remote play, but if it makes the game near-unplayable why would you want them to do so just for the sake of allowing it. 

They would have to practically re-make Diablo 3 to be able to play on Vita without any problems. Here are just a few things:

1) Remake the Inventory screen ENTIRELY. A far less spacious screen would be needed, such as what Kingdoms of Amalur uses.

2) Have the game detect when you go into remote-play mode so it can completely reconfigure the screen size/shape to something Vita-suitable. Killzone: Shadow Fall is first-person, so you get the same field of vision regardless of the screen size. Diablo 3, on the other hand, would need to find a way to give you the same field of vision as it does on console, but without shrinking the screen to the point that it's hard to discern what's happening on-screen.

3) Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition is coming out for both consoles and I'm fairly certain that's remote-play compatible, so why wouldn't MLB The Show?

4) So far Diablo 3 is the only special case, and even then the only reason is not because "We don't really care for Remote Play," but more "Implementing Remote Play in Diablo 3 would cause a gameplay experience difference of such a massive scale, we would more or less end up building a completely new game."

Trust me, I would have loved for Diablo 3 to be remote-play compatible, but at least learn the difference between what is reasonable and what isn't.

Besides, even if it's not added in by Diablo 3 release, they could always patch it in. Think Assassin's Creed's patch that introduced trophies into the game. Give it some time, as see if maybe they've come up with a solution closer to the release.

@tjkraz Chill dude, trust me it's not all doomsday.

theKSMM
theKSMM

This does lead to a more general question of how developers will handle Remote Play on the Vita's smaller, lower-resolution screen.  Small text like subtitles and menu items may be too small to be readable when projected onto the Vita's five-inch screen.

tjkraz
tjkraz

Sadly this confirms all of my fears about Remote Play.  Despite Sony's claims 6 months ago that Remote Play was mandatory for all games that didn't require some sort of peripheral, it's just not true.  If developers can opt-out of Remote Play at will, I don't know why any would participate.  Sony will implement with some of their first-party titles like Killzone and Knack.  But that's a far cry from the promise months ago that RP would be present in virtually every game.  

Wonder what approach Sony will take with MLB The Show?  Sony wouldn't even give buyers a discount on the PS3 / Vita combo of The Show '13.  Why would they risk losing sales of the Vita version next year by allowing Remote Play from PS4?  

justerthought
justerthought

Not that I'm interested in the feature, but I thought Sony were going to make sure every PS4 game supports remote play unless it was a game using the camera. Diablo is just a bog standard dungeon hack and slash so why the special treatment.

I have nothing against Diablo. These types of games are a lot of fun. I remember playing Champions of Norrath on PS2 and really enjoyed it, so I may give this one a try. Hopefully you can do it coop with a friend via PSN, because the two controller coop in Champions of Norrath was epic fun.  I notice you get an AI companion Diablo, so coop would be a good fit.

Diegoctba
Diegoctba

@JumpyLuweege: Vita is a huge piece of kit.

mastertien123
mastertien123

Does that mean Vita have its own version of D3 then ? That's cool .

rarerichz
rarerichz

why not make diablo III for wii u since wii u's controller has a bigger screen , and im sure it can handle 1080p at 60fps

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

I would imagine Diablo 3 on Vita would be sexy as hell, though I'm not sure if it would work every well controls wise. There are a lot of keys to be used on Diablo.

So does this mean that the "compulsory Remote Play" thing was just a load of crap or did they mean only for games that weren't just direct copies of current gen games?

I'm telling you now Sony, Vita remote play is one of the few reasons why I actually want your console. Especially since your game line up so far sucks ass and your controller makes me want to self harm.

If Xbox One wasn't so much money I would probably go over there, so if you don't deliver on Vita with remote play chances are I'll just end up selling that as well eventually. I mean if that was the case Vita is as good as dead anyway. Sure not going to keep it just to play some shitty Indie titles.

Manatassix
Manatassix

Fair Enough no point having a feature that does not work with it forced into a game just as a bullet point.

blackace
blackace

This should be good. At least the touchpad will finally get some use.

Gamer_4_Fun
Gamer_4_Fun

You guys should try to read before making stupid comments like some of them below. The only reason it is not doing remote play is because of the overhead view of the diablo game. Seriously, with such a small screen, can  you even properly navigate in the game on the vita?

wdma
wdma

sweet 1080p @60fps and the latest expansion, thanks Blizzard

SteamyPotatoes
SteamyPotatoes

Thought all PS4 games were suppose to have this ?

ahpuck
ahpuck

No surprise there.

super_tramp_tri
super_tramp_tri

Blizzard confirms new Ultimate Evil Edition will not support Remote Play on PlayStation Vita, though designer calls system an "amazing piece of shit." 

How rude..

psmithiv
psmithiv

So is remote play a system level feature or not? It's starting to look like remote play with the vita on the PS3. Sony tells us all games will support vita remote play which we all later found out was a flat out lie.

Pyrosa
Pyrosa

@emptycow718 Sure, but that doesn't make Kinect games any more FUN.  Dance Central is fun with a group of friends, but absolutely none of the Kinect-enabled games thus far were actually worth more than an hour or so of gimmicky play.   Shouting out spells in Skyrim wasn't any more fun than "Liara Stasis" -- and I'm certainly not going to stand up to play an FPS to "lean" around a corner.


I game on ALL platforms, and motion control is only suited to a SMALL percentage of games -- regardless of any platform fanboy-ism out there.


emptycow718
emptycow718

@Mommas_b_o_y i played knack a week ago the game is weak and looks like a ps2 game in  1080p  and the game cant even run at a solid 30fps  for sure knack will get a 5.0 at best 

Stavrami
Stavrami

@jackiedebs no lie blizzard don't understand how remote play works it will be on the game

tebbisimo
tebbisimo

@Cloud7794 @tjkraz Look, I'm pretty sure every game on Remote Play isn't going to be ideal. I can barely see the guy sniping me on my 50" telly...

But I would like to have the choice and make up my mind if it is a worthwhile avenue to do, whilst my girlfriend is watching How I Glee'd Your Dine With Me rubbish.

:) Choice PLX! Even if it SUXXXXXXXXXXX

timmerous
timmerous

@justerthought They did make it sound like every game would use remote play to begin (except games using ps eye) with, but have, for the past few months, changed the wording to reflect they would expect most games to use it. They said it was really easy to implement so I'm not sure why blizzard don't enable the feature, hopefully it doesn't turn out to be for technical reasons.

deathstream
deathstream

@rarerichz 


Same reason they aren't doing anything to support the Vita.  They aren't wasting resources on platforms that didn't sell.

j2zon2591
j2zon2591

@Dannystaples14 If devs weren't so budget constricted or have more balls, the VITA can provide more (practical) inputs on the VITA; virtual buttons/virtual keyboard/backpad "smart grid", etc.

tjkraz
tjkraz

@Gamer_4_Fun Thing is, back in May Sony claimed that Remote Play was MANDATORY for every game that didn't require an add-on peripheral like the PS Eye.  If true, that would have been a huge selling point for the PS4.  

But it's apparently not true and it sounds like devs can simply opt-out of Remote Play at will.  Really, I'm not sure why any developers would even allow Remote Play.  If RP were mandatory, they would sell a lot fewer crap-tastic Vita ports of Call of Duty, Madden, LEGO games, Arkham, etc.  I can't see Activision allowing RP of COD: Ghosts when they're still trying to sell the awful Vita version of Black Ops priced at $50!! (But I guess we'll know for sure on this one in a few days.)

haze0986
haze0986

@SteamyPotatoes sony stated most not all, as you can see its a developer option not mandatory for devs to use it

haze0986
haze0986

@psmithiv its not a lie when they specifically said most games will have remote play, every game is capable but not every game is going to use it, why is it that on gamespot the need for reading comprehension gets subdued by sheer dumbness

SkyAboveThePort
SkyAboveThePort

@psmithiv PS4 will support all games, but if the game dev doesn't want to support it, it's his choice, right? In this case, Blizzard. Why they cannot do it for Diablo although Starcraft basically runs on any resolution and aspect ratio you throw at it...well, maybe I should have said "don't want to" instead of "cannot" ^^

BradBurns
BradBurns

@Stavrami @jackiedebs 

People keep saying this. Is it confirmed to be in the game? If so, what's your source? Just asking.


As for "Jackie's" comment about fanboyism, yes, people tend to engage in bizarrely apologetic behaviors when a console they've invested money in is involved.

I own a white Vita with a gorgeous OLED screen and nothing I find interesting to play on it. I was promised a Hulu Plus and Crunchyroll app that fell off the face of the earth a while back.  It never came. I really have very little do on the console.  I take it that you own a Vita too.

Cloud7794
Cloud7794

@tebbisimo @Cloud7794 @tjkraz i understand people want the choice, and that's perfectly okay. What I'm saying though is that if they are going to implement it, they should actually take time to make it worthwhile somehow. I would rather hear them say "Sure, we'll have remote play, but not until a later patch so we've optimized it for Vita." instead of "Remote play will be enabled at launch, and well... yeah, that's it. If you can play like that fine, if you can't, oh well."

There's also the problem of public image and criticism. If they don't add remote play, then people will mention it, but it won't be as huge a thing as if they allowed remote play and it was a horrific experience. The latter can cause reviews to fall, the Vita's power to be questioned instead of Diablo 3's playability on a small screen, and cause Diablo 3 to be used an example of why "Remote play isn't a worthwhile endeavor."

I will say this though, and I think many will agree: if Vita TV is announced for North America (or at least confirmed for a global release), then the probability of Diablo 3 having remote play SKYROCKETS.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@j2zon2591 I think if the Vita was larger (chunkier) so there was actually something to hold it with and make it more comfortable and they added R2,3 and L2,3 buttons it would be perfect.

But in games that use most of those things you would need to use the touch pad on the back and that is going to be weird at first. Might get used to it over time but I'm not totally confident of that.

tjkraz
tjkraz

@haze0986 @SteamyPotatoes Not what they said back in May.  According to Sony president Shuhei Yoshida, Remote Play was mandatory "unless the game requires specific hardware like the camera."  

Obviously the tech would work better in some games than others.  But if Sony is allowing devs to simply opt-out of Remote Play at will, circumstances are MUCH different than just a handful of excluded games due to peripheral issues.  If it's completely optional, I struggle to see why anyone would bother supporting Remote Play.  Would only hurt sales of their dedicated Vita games.   

tjkraz
tjkraz

@haze0986 @psmithiv If this is true, Sony is most definitely changing their story.    

Shuhei Yoshida:  “On PlayStation 4, it just happens. You just make a PS4 game, it supports Remote Play."  ...and....  "Yes, it's true unless the game requires specific hardware like the camera. It will be great to play PS4 games on PS Vita."

I guess we'll know in a few days exactly how many titles support Remote Play and what sort of quality the experience provides.  Since these statements about universal support back in May, Sony has really dialed-back expectations.  The official Sony website for the PS4 says that "a wide range" or games will feature Remote Play.  Not "all", not "most".  And the massive FAQ from a couple weeks back has a laundry list of requirements in order to get Remote Play to work (gaming router, ethernet connection to router, no interference, Vita close to router, etc.)  

Manifest_78
Manifest_78

@haze0986 @psmithiv Statements, expectations and execution is 3 totally different things. The statement was more or less remote play will work unless the game needed the PS Eye. The expectation is that just about all game will work because how often have you heard of games utilizing the PS Eye lately? Finally the execution is that sometimes just because you can get it to work, don't mean it's going to look right. You can't knock the average gamer for being disappointed with the news.

Stavrami
Stavrami

@BradBurns lol just to prove my point head over to n4g it has just been confirmed

Stavrami
Stavrami

@BradBurns I'm my source it is manditory for remote play  unless the game uses camera or move . berger says i quote the screen on vita is to small ?? yet we are considering remote play ?? what he does not understand even without them working on remote play,diablo 3 is all ready remote play . the ps4 will do all the work they only have to map buttons THAT IS ALL. there is nothing to consider , 

tebbisimo
tebbisimo

@BradBurns Dude, I'm really falling for my vita...but it's mainly for the indie games (part of the reason I'm excited for my PS4 and was going to stick with that (Before caving in and buying both consoles...)

If you're all over the indie scene on PC, then fair enough; but Thomas Was Alone, Guacamelee, Limbo, Mutant Blobs Attack, Stealth Inc alongside Persona 4 have kept me with loads of things to do (in the short amounts of time where I can't play a normal console/have to do boring stuff like work/eat/sleep/talktopeople)