Destiny inspired by serial TV like The Wire, Lost

Bungie design director Joe Staten says studio looked at movies for Halo, but shifted to serial TV for new shooter.

Serial television shows like The Wire, Lost, and Battlestar Galactica served as inspiration for Bungie's new shooter Destiny. Design director Joe Staten told GameSpot last week during the Game Developers Conference that this was not the case with Halo.

"I think typically, for the Halo games, we looked at movies. But really for this game, we looked at serial television; great dramas like Lost or The Wire; Battlestar Galactica," Staten said.

"When you're building a world and you want to evolve it over time, it really helps to have an understanding of how you build this longer-form narrative. So for us, that was a really interesting new thing we did," he added. "I think we probably spend more time watching television these days than we do movies and that's definitely influenced the way we think about building our story."

Destiny is the first project in Bungie's ten-year publishing partnership with Call of Duty publisher Activision. The project is described as a "shared-world shooter."

The game is currently in development for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4, though Bungie's own preorder page suggests the game is also coming to Wii U, PC, PlayStation Vita, and the Xbox 720.

For more on Destiny, check back later this week for GameSpot's full conversation with Staten and art director Christopher Barrett.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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interrasteral7
interrasteral7

I am quite interested that Bungie Software's Destiny was inspire by The Wire, but I would pretend that they did not say they were also inspired by the wreck called Lost.

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

Lost was not a good series at all.  The Wire was pretty bangin' tho.

Kind of like Halo was no good at all, but Marathon had been the bomb.

boredom_kills
boredom_kills

The more I read about this, the more interested I become. It's a BIG idea... it'll be interesting to see if they can deliver on it. I hope they can. I'll be watching closely.

carolino
carolino

FPS anti fan that i am i must say i loved bungie last conference

Wej_accept_it
Wej_accept_it

Inspired by The Wire? Some faith is restored!!

sirscarecrow
sirscarecrow

dude, with the screwed up society from today you don't need to make a game to inviting. Just be honest (not like Titov of the War Z) and more importantly, allow players to create both, male and female characters, so most males can do their role playing pretending to be females in order to have internet contact. You guys will do great, so relax already. At least 200 mio USD income for you guys on your next project, but I expect much higher numbers. Congratulations in advance ! Invite Sergey Titov at one point and teach him how to communicate with fans.

moonlightwolf01
moonlightwolf01

lets hope the wire had more influence than lost because otherwise it'll just be a confused over-complicated mess. Still at least they've stopped looking to movies I wish more designers would join them in that.

Albaficas
Albaficas

love the wire

best tv show of the decade

Gomtor
Gomtor

This game is always online so I am not interested.  

WarL0rdzz
WarL0rdzz

It's coming on PC too?! Yeeeeeeeeeeey!


AceBalls
AceBalls

For good examples of any dramatic character driven supremacy, everyone should be looking at Breaking Bad ;)

Tyralyon
Tyralyon

Why is Lost mentioned in the same sentence as The Wire? An insult to The Wire that they are supposedly in the same league.

Kraken422
Kraken422

"When you're building a world and you want to evolve it over time, it really helps to have an understanding of how you build this longer-form narrative."

I don't think Lost is a good example of this. I always felt the writing room had about as much of an idea of the mysterys of the island as the viewers did. It didn't feel like they had a major plan for their story, instead taking it one episode at a time.

mrklorox
mrklorox

Translation: expect cliffhangers to artificially inflate interest instead of providing closure when finishing segments.

VastGameMaster
VastGameMaster

As a gamer I find this amazing. As a trainee game designer I found this quit a learning experience.

Gears_0f_L0ve
Gears_0f_L0ve

I miss shows like lost.  There are soo many crime and medical dramas its not funny anymore.

bluefox755
bluefox755

I remember seeing the polar bear...I was like WTF? a polar bear on an island??

Ovirew
Ovirew

That's a pretty cool way of doing things.  As someone who is more of a TV show viewer than a movie-goer, I can appreciate that they're building an evolving and changing game series with the TV show template as its back-bone.

beuneus12
beuneus12

will it have crap flashbacks, like lost?

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

The Wire was a great show! Good source for inspiration I say!

vault-boy
vault-boy

You know, after reading all these bitchy comments for the millionth time complaining about the game before it they even release any specific details about it, I think I'm done with Gamespot. The people here just suck. Maybe Kotaku will be a bit better...

funkymonkey4710
funkymonkey4710

Why did you have to reopen up that wound of LOST. I MISS IT SO MUCH!!!! I still think there was the capability of making a really good video game off of it, but oh well.

FlashCharge
FlashCharge

Really have a big question mark on this game. Gamers have been given bits and pieces about Destiny but nothing of real substance.

CLOCKWORKIAN
CLOCKWORKIAN

I am not surprised to hear that someone was inspired by "The Wire"... It is, hands down, the best TV show ever created after all.

SC-Genjisamurai
SC-Genjisamurai

Dont be stupid. This game is an MMORPG... ofc its always online.

TheSkyrimStatue
TheSkyrimStatue

Lost seasons 1 & 2 were as good as if not better than the wire

pvspartan36
pvspartan36

@Gears_0f_L0ve To be fair, there are some good crime dramas out there. I recently started to watch Castle. Great show. Nathan Fillion is just awesome.

acerx7
acerx7

@Gears_0f_L0ve no kidding. Stopped watching TV because that and all the reality TV. Watching 3rd Rock from the Sun right now. The Thanksgiving Episode. Hilarious. On the flip side I heard Who's Line is it Anyway is coming back

pvspartan36
pvspartan36

@BoozerX  I think we can be pretty sure that it'll only be going to Playstation, Xbox, and eventually PC. That source code they are referencing for the pre-order pages is very similar to the source code of purchase and pre-order pages for other Activision games. Probably just standardized code for purchase pages.

acerx7
acerx7

@SavoyPrime Omar is coming!

Ovirew
Ovirew

@vault-boy A lot of people here do suck, but they're allowed to have their crappy opinions as much as I am my own.  I find the occasional intelligent person here, and that's good enough.

Besides, maybe it makes me feel better when I can feel like I'm above the idiots.  ; )

Ovirew
Ovirew

@funkymonkey4710 I always thought that, too.  I think it would have made an interesting sort of survival/exploration first-person adventure game.  Maybe give the writers a chance to sort of flesh out some of the concepts they introduced throughout the show that weren't really a focus of the story.  The island was an interesting place, and I'm sure it could be the site of many secret struggles for mankind over the years.

Kr3isen
Kr3isen

@FlashCharge Yeah, i feel like they just keep rambling nonsense to get more Pre-orders.

ThereWillBeNPCs
ThereWillBeNPCs

@CLOCKWORKIAN Can you please tell me how it's such a gem? Too lazy to search it up. I watched the first 3 or 4 episodes, and by god its not so interesting... I'm sure it gets really good, but I can't push myself... 

FlashCharge
FlashCharge

@Kr3isen @FlashCharge thanks for the comment. I feel you have a valid concern.

CLOCKWORKIAN
CLOCKWORKIAN

@ThereWillBeNPCs@CLOCKWORKIANYou are not the first person that has said this to me. One of my best friends had did the very same thing as you. So I will say the same thing that I told him.
Keep watching. After episode four, you might get hooked, by episode seven you won't be able to look away. "The Wire" immediately decides to throw you into the plot with little exhibition. It plays by its own story telling rules, so it can be intimidating and hard to follow at first. I, at first, enjoyed the first few episodes, but I did not understand just how finely crafted the story and themes were going to be. I have now watched the entire series three times, and, as someone with a Bachelor's Degree in Creative Writing, it has been a major source of inspiration for me in the field of storytelling. But I am rambling a bit. What I'll do is give you this link from Harvard that actually gives some great reasons why "The Wire" is a great show, and why they made a class studying it.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/news-events/news/news-archive/teaching-the-wire-at-harvard


CLOCKWORKIAN
CLOCKWORKIAN

@Ovirew @CLOCKWORKIAN @ThereWillBeNPCs It is not on the air anymore. The show completed its story in 2008. You can now buy the complete series on DVD from most major retailers.
And, to be brief, the show, at first glance, is a show where cops try to bust drug dealers. But as the series goes on, you see that it is tackling wider themes. It is basically the failure of institutions in a modern American city.

Have you seen or read "Game of Thrones"? That show is described by some as "aFantasy version of 'The Wire'" because both shows deal with complex human characters. There are no "bad guys", just complex people that do good and bad things and hold themselves up to different views of the world that sometimes clash with one another.
I hope that did a little to explain the concept for you.