Destiny dev promises "You're going to fail" during some missions

Lead investment designer says not all missions are meant to be immediately accessible.

Destiny's difficulty spectrum will range from accessible to demanding, lead investment designer Tyson Green told Game Informer in a new video interview.

He explained that the game's difficulty slider is an embodiment of Bungie's philosophy that Destiny should be a game that suits players of all skill levels and moods.

"We're building lots of encounters, and even activities, where it's not immediately obvious what you should do. And in fact, you're going to fail," Green said. "Oh my god, you're actually going to play a AAA video game and fail a lot. When we say that we're building something for every mood, we really mean it."

Players will find Destiny's campaign to be more "accessible," Green said, noting that players looking to ease into the game after a hard day at work should start there.

Regarding Destiny's competitive multiplayer component, Bungie recently said that it will be "faster" and "more lethal" than what was featured in the Halo series.

Destiny officially launches for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4 on September 9, 2014. Players will get a stab at the game in summer 2014, when a beta launches first on Sony platforms. For more on Destiny, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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Sun-Tzu-GE
Sun-Tzu-GE

I miss the old days of gaming when I used to spend an entire hour trying to figure out how to beat a certain boss.It wasn't so much the fact that it was difficult but you needed to use your head to figure out what strategy was needed,

Walkerdowntown
Walkerdowntown

As long as it isn't as hard as Dark Souls, I'm still interested

Shantmaster_K
Shantmaster_K

Destiny looks so good. Can't wait to finally play it. 

Ensabuhnur
Ensabuhnur

Love the Bungie team but they must not have played Halo 4 on Legendary.  343 made it that you could and would die plenty on it.  But hey sounds good, a little unfair challenge gets the blood pumping

noandno
noandno

If you die you will start over from scratch, then they're not lying

Aaronp2k
Aaronp2k

I won't fail, because I have completed dark souls 3 times and this game's difficulty will never compare to the difficulty of dark souls lol.

arqe
arqe

Console players are not used to it , so idk.

frylock1987
frylock1987

I have a feeling I wont die at all. Especially if shiels or health is going to regenerate.....FPS games have become pussified since Halo.

oneligas
oneligas

after Destiny fails how long until Activision turns Bungie into a hand puppet and makes them work on CoD

vadagar1
vadagar1

ALSO


HEALTH SPONGE =//////////////////////////= DIFFICULTY 


learn from oblivion's mistake 

vadagar1
vadagar1

make it battle field hardcore difficult and then u got yourself a winner 

Aphyosemion
Aphyosemion

What a strange promise.  I suppose their next promise will be that you are going to fly into a blind rage, punch a hole in your TV, and throw your controller so that it sticks in the wall like a throwing star.

xXxIRyanxXx
xXxIRyanxXx

Make it as hard as the Mile High Club achievement in COD 4

Csdabest89
Csdabest89

Actually I think he just hinting this game wont baby you like all other games. My fav game was gears of war because when you put t on the hardest. The game is insanely hard and unforgiving. So when you complete it you fell like you did something. Halo after halo one legendary and the discovery of the pistol hax. Isnt that hard and it hsnt been that hard either.

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

I don't think I understand what Green is getting at. I'm sure everyone's cocked-up and failed a mission at some point in a game, so what's the big deal? If he's hinting that Destiny will be the hardest game ever then I imagine Demon Souls would like a quiet word with him.

zenstrata
zenstrata

I am not interested at all in competitive multiplayer content.  Imo the game would be better off without that.  I would concentrate on making a compelling and lengthy co-operative experience which had decent storyline and enjoyable action sequences.

If the game tries to force players into competitive multiplayer by making storyline and better loot exclusively available there, then there is a good chance I will pass on this title.  I play with friends to play 'With friends', not against them.  If I want competitive multiplayer i'll go boot up Unreal Tournament.  I do not want that in rpg/adventure titles.

jimmy_russell
jimmy_russell

This game is going to be a flop. Halo sucked.

AzureBonds76
AzureBonds76

Being that Destiny is selling itself sort of as an MMO, having some difficulty is a good selling point. Every RPG fan can tell you there is no fun in getting all this sparkly new gear and skillz and having nothing to test it out on. Actually I would go as far as to say that without some difficulty, Destiny is doomed to fail. The trick that makes all games with loot and levels work is this idea that when you get new loot and levels you have something progressively more difficult to try it out on. Otherwise why are you progressing and getting new stuff ? It's why there were raid bosses in Borderlands (for instance), and pretty much every MMO ever made. I think it will be more tricky to pull this off with Destiny compared to a game like Halo in which you could just notch the difficulty up to Heroic if you wanted a good time. I mean I totally understand why some people just want to blaze through a game for some mindless fun due to time contraints or what not, but a game like Destiny needs a good challenge to work.

shreddyz
shreddyz

oh oh. GS better not let that reviewer that down grades games because of it's difficulty review Destiny then.

tightwad34
tightwad34

That is nice to see. Don't make your game too easy so everyone just plows through it and moves on. Gotta find a balance so everyone can enjoy it.

19James89
19James89

I hope this game doesn't have microtransactions or I'm gonna boycott it and stick to playing Funky Barn. 

sammoth
sammoth

I hope this isn't the selling point of the game. I am all for having difficult missions but, make them to hard it discourages people from playing.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

Difficulty isn't a selling point in a game for me. 


Often times I turn it down to get through a game quicker because I have more than enough to play. Difficulty is only really valued when done well like in games like Dark Souls where the difficulty comes from skill not just from turning up in game numbers and making you die in one hit. Games like all of Duty do difficulty wrong where they simply make the game cheat to make it harder, and not actually incorporate it into the design of the game.

DefunktJunk
DefunktJunk

Can't wait for Destiny: Prepare to Fail Edition :P

dkdk999
dkdk999

I wish it was still like the older generations of games where you didn't need an article to tell you that you were going to die at times during the game.

sirapathetic01
sirapathetic01

Skipping this title. I'm waiting on a title that actually reinvents and introduces a brand new and great way to play shooter games. Until then, games like this are just repeats of previous FPS' but with a different story and graphics engine, imo.

AceJakk
AceJakk

Dark Souls can be beaten in less than two hours with a shield only.

StaticPenguin
StaticPenguin

@Aaronp2kSo you're going to know the solution to every quest in a brand new video game? Thats a silly thing to say.

kidnatural
kidnatural

@frylock1987 Shields and regenerating health isn't going to save you if their A.I. is sufficient and your defenses are rendered so minimal they're moot.


My shield and health regenerated in Borderlands, but that didn't make defeating Crawmerax the Invincible a cake walk. 

normanislost
normanislost

@Aphyosemion not really all MMOs promise tougher content for those who want a challenge


ofc this splits the community between those that say its to hard and those who like it as a challenge look at the WoW community as an example  

pupp3t_mast3r
pupp3t_mast3r

@PlatinumPaladin I can't remember the last time I played an FPS in the last 2-3 years where I actually died because the encounter was hard (except Far Cry 3). I think they're trying to get the point across that this might be a return to the glory days of FPS games like the old CoD's.


That said I doubt they're going to be knocking Dark Souls off their throne for hardest game ever.

CrouchingWeasel
CrouchingWeasel

@jimmy_russell 

Hmmmmmm...... millions upon millions of other people or little Jimmy Russell......? Yep, I think I'll believe the millions of other people.

twisted_sith
twisted_sith

@jimmy_russell  *This game might fail. *I don't like Halo. (unless...you can see the future?? p.s. I also don't like Halo so calm down)

ghstbstr
ghstbstr

@jimmy_russell

Well if most people had the same attitude than yea it might flop, but since most aren't like you then it will do just fine.

zenstrata
zenstrata

@AzureBonds76  You can have plenty of difficulty in a single player or multiplayer co-operative experience.  Turning to 'competitive' multiplayer is not what I am interested in.

tinyname
tinyname

@19James89 Looks like you're sticking to funky barn then.  Cause this game is gonna have microtransactions AND monthly fees.

vadagar1
vadagar1

@Toysoldier34 i play BF3 on hardcore (means 1-3 shots and ur toast) and frankly i cant play it on normal again its too sickeningly easy 


if in a game like destiny the enemies are nothing more than loot boxes I will avoid it at all cost 

buddy1991
buddy1991

I actually love realistic shooters. Especially the old rainbow six games where you would die if you were shot twice and then you could.never use that character again haha. So awesome.

TaylorAP13
TaylorAP13

@sirapathetic01I think what they are doing for destiny is pretty cool, so far it doesn't seem so amazingly reinvented and all, but I think what they have in mind will deliver far more than COD, BF, and Borderlands. This is coming from a guy who hates COD, hates Borderlands and bought one BF game and haven't bought any other and is considering never picking up a FPS unless it says "Halo or Fallout" on it. Which Fallout is not a traditional FPS. My point is that I think Destiny could be really good, don't pass it aside until some real gameplay comes out and we can see it in action (probably E3). I'm just happy that it launches the day after my birthday, MIDNIGHT RELEASE HERE I POTENTIALLY COME!

justinka777
justinka777

@sirapathetic01 I really want to know what you have in mind. seriously, tell me, it must be so explosively awesome that I cant even begin to imagine what your thinking of.

themc_7
themc_7

@kidnatural @frylock1987 yeah borderlands is a perfect example. They beef up the damage big time. No matter how big a shield you have or how good your gun is, they keep bumped up the difficulty. At times it can be really tough.

comb5
comb5

@tinyname @shreddyz You do know that Carolyn gave Dark Souls on the PC a 9.5, right? That game isn't exactly a cakewalk.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

@vadagar1 I also play Battlefield in hardcore. Less for the difficulty between them. I just prefer the feeling of people not needing to take tons of bullets to be put down.


Also having Socom being my first online multiplayer games I really got into I love the styles of play from that game which included dying easily.

rockstar_88
rockstar_88

@justinka777 @sirapathetic01 Titanfall would probably be a start.  People that have played FPS games for a while would probably fall right into Destiny, but for those of us that got into the FPS scene pretty late, Titanfall provides an opportunity for those people to get good at something that nobody has really mastered yet (mechs).

shreddyz
shreddyz

@comb5 @tinyname @shreddyz she only gave prepare to die edition a 9.5 because kvo gave it the same thing on x360. prep to die edition was the worst pc port I've ever played and I doubt she really played it on pc anyway. 

normanislost
normanislost

@rockstar_88 BF2142 had mechs.... titanfall doesnt really do anything that hasnt been seen before