Day Z creator 'depressed' by War Z controversy

Dean Hall says situation surrounding Hammerpoint's zombie survival game made him consider quitting game development altogether.

Creator of Arma II mod Day Z Dean Hall has spoken out about the situation surrounding Hammerpoint Interactive's The War Z, saying the controversy has left him "depressed" and led to him considering quitting game development altogether. Writing on Reddit as "rocket2guns," Hall broke his silence.

"I know I have been very quiet lately. So this will be really all I'll say for the moment. I've been pretty depressed about the whole situation," Hall said. "From a personal standpoint, this whole 'saga' of the development made me seriously question if I wanted to be involved in the industry and I gave serious thought to cutting my losses and not being involved in the project."

Hall said he has been "hammered" with requests from media and fans alike, asking for his take on the situation and for further information about Day Z. He declined to provide any insight, noting he is keeping to himself while working on Day Z along with the rest of the development team.

Hall said he discovered during his Army discharge medical examination this week that he has high blood pressure and "some things in life just aren't worth worrying about."

Controversy surrounding The War Z came to light upon the game's release through Steam this week. Users quickly began reporting numerous issues with The War Z. Further, many players criticized the game and developer Hammerpoint for being misleading and for censoring their comments about issues with the game. The game has since been pulled from Steam.

As for Day Z, Hall and his team are currently working on a standalone version of the zombie game to be published by Bohemia Interactive in 2013 for PC.

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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Philiperdude
Philiperdude

WarZ is horrible in many ways, the only reason I played it is because of the skill level up, and the Global inventory. I stopped playing WarZ due to too many Hackers. DayZ I am currently giving it out a try.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

I've seen a lot of DayZ and while it sounds good, it looks like shit. Arma is a terrible engine and you can see how horrible it is within 1 minute of gameplay, the way zombies warp around and the way they are animated. Though really they both look like crap. When Dead Island is the standard by which to measure if the game flows like shit or not - no offense to DI i love the fuck out of it to this day - they need to think outside the box. Really though you aren't going to have any success making a persistent online MMO-type zombie game. They could learn a few lessons from PlanetSide2 but still........idk.

BigZman95
BigZman95

Yeah but we already know that DayZ is better...

Devil_wings00
Devil_wings00

This guy is being a bit of a drama queen isn't he lol That game doesn't have anything to do with his so why is he so depressed? I understand it might tarnish his product when people get the two confused but seriously dude bring it down a notch. Also I guess reading comprehension isn't taught in school anymore since quite a few morons can't quite seem to comprehend that this guy didn't have anything to do with WAR Z and he's the dev on the ArmA 2 mod (stand alone game soon enough) DAY Z. I haven't played either, I just read the article and I managed to figure that out.

Kickable
Kickable

i'll bet 'delusional' was also in his discharge papers if he thinks he should still have a spot in the industry

gamefreak215jd
gamefreak215jd

Why is the DayZ creator depressed by the controversy related to the devs of WarZ?

ZJohnnyZ
ZJohnnyZ

Agreed The War Z is a giant pile of crap, and Day Z Mod is also a pile of crap. They are both old (dated) crappy. Generic Death Match Shooters that should have PVP kill streaks rewards! The War Z WAS advertised as a MMORPG that's why people are upset!!! There are zero PVE servers; nor any persistent world, nor ANY RPG elements of any kind, or any upgradable (building blocks trading) strongholds with farming or stores, nor any crafting, zero skill tress or levels, and the reputation system is broken!  You just re-spawn with NOTHING to show for all your time spent all gear gone, just go PVP again! Day Z is a Mod made to a shooter, and the other is a direct port from a failed shooter! There is no VoIP.  The game engines imho can’t support a true Zombie (Just Retextured Player Models) survival MMO or any kind of persistent world, and defiantly can’t support a MMORPG with crafting and a player driven economy with Player Stats and persistent gear!  That’s why a lot of people felt let down and depressed, maybe this guy is upset because that’s what his intention was for the Day Z Stand Alone, just a port of old game with mod built in from the ground up – but still just a PVP shooter!  Just get rid of the Zombies and drop ordnance for PVP kill streaks! I’ll end with a quote from The Walking Dead – “We don’t kill the living” <-Think about it when assessing a True MMO Zombie Apocalypse Survival game where people should band together fortify trade with other groups and go scavenging for things they get to keep once found through Hard Dangerous Work!

travo0159
travo0159

WarZ depressed the DayZ creator, DayZ depressed the arma fans that enjoyed the game how it was supposed to be enjoyed, brutal circle of life

 

DarthLod
DarthLod

Awww. Want us to throw you a pity party? That's what you get for treating the consumer like ****!!!! I wish this would happen to Bioware now!!!! They have utterly ruined SWTOR. It's a broken game now. Daily glitches.

frostmare101
frostmare101

by the way the game war z is going, problems in the game and getting kicked off of steam.  its a sign that war z should be put on the way back corner of a shelf and collect dust. I think dayz stand alone might do better off the line. I had to laugh about spookysev comment that warz is on the top 10 at 2. gaming is really a laughing joke for a few moments.

spookysev
spookysev

Steam interview say they are working on making the standalone for all consoles :) So xbox Ps3 and PC fanboys can enjoy :) YiP YiP Yippy!

spookysev
spookysev

just logged in and WARZ is in the TOP 10 at 2? HA...thats a joke right?

G-Man4ever
G-Man4ever

i hate the targeting system in online MMOs. You shoot the target and a lapse between you seeing his head/body get hit and him falling down. It looks fake. They should at least put a animation that would compensate for this delay cause probably by the server responding too slow. You feel more like luck than actual experience. Processing of bullet hits should be done locally on the gamer's PC rather than by the server. It would give a much better response time and les strain on the server. As for the excuse "people will find a way to cheat if we use this technique", it doesn't matter, people will always find a way to cheat. drop the value of killing a target, add less loot and so on, but make the experience flawless. and for GODs sake, make some better textures. Half Life 1 had more detail than most MMO's today.

csward
csward

No one feels sorry for you.

Dustyn-Barlow
Dustyn-Barlow

I just drank the last mountain dew...........  i'm so sad 

grasu
grasu

 

WTF is this article about? Do you people even try? I know it doesn't take that much to become a (game)journalist but can you please actually PUT some relevant information into an article? Why is this guy upset? Is he having personal issues, does he think War Z ripped him off, is he bitching about the fans? Just what the fuck is going on!?

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

I'm confused.  What is this guy's problem?  What has him whining that he's going to quit.  What's to get stressed about?

 

Just say it: "I don't like how these guys are trying to scam people by ripping off our mod and selling a half baked game that looks and sounds like ours to try to trick people."  It's not hard.

Stolet
Stolet

I like potatoes.

FreedomPrime
FreedomPrime

war z is a giant pile of crap. day z on the other hand... is also a pile of crap.

TANKER_LINK
TANKER_LINK

I wish this article would go into detail of why Hall was upset about the warz situation. Seems like we're left to fill in the blank.

tgwolf
tgwolf

Well, I will tell you that for one thing, make the game other than Mature and include something more auspicious than JUST ZOMBIES (!!!!) and I would consider it...Oh wait, imagination died ten years ago as far as games, and Arma will be tossed into Inferno before it ever breaks out of it's M-rated Hades...YET ANOTHER SHAME, another game I can't play...*goes back into hibernation after setting timer for next turning point for humanity...*

silentcell
silentcell

I don't get it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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destroyeur
destroyeur

That's right people, you're giving the army guy high blood pressure, talk about the best of the best eh!

frodo10
frodo10

I dont know why hes depressed how many people seen the war z for what it really is and its clear that there is such potential still for dayz.

feleas
feleas

if he's gonna be depressed about War Z instead of improve and outdo War Z with his own mod Day Z, then MAYBE he should quit game development if he's gonna go emo over an obstacle like that.

Falru
Falru

Well,

 

that's depressing.

myungish
myungish

Why is he getting depressed over the whole War Z thing? Is it the constant attention? He can just choose to ignore it and get on with his own project. Must be something else going behind the scenes.

toshineon
toshineon

 @Kickable Why? Are you getting him confused with the creator of The War Z, or did he do something I'm not aware of?

VALENTT
VALENTT

 @gamefreak215jd If I was to choose out of the two I'd say DayZ. But, honestly speaking, neither. 

Total_mischief
Total_mischief

 @ZJohnnyZ How about you read The Walking Dead before quoting without context ? People kill eachother all the time in zombie apocalypses, and that they were able to put this aspect into the game is amazing. You gotta make a choice berween teaming up and risking to get shot in the back, or to go lone wolf. This isn't Call of Duty - thank god for that - and the mod has its flaws and the limitations of the game engine, but that's why they're doing a standalone. If you prefer WoW and CoD then good for you, but don't expect DayZ to go from an indie, innovative game to a generic, boring shooter.

Lov3IsPAiN
Lov3IsPAiN

 @ZJohnnyZ CoD fanboy? DayZ is, for now at least, just a mod. And ArmA 2 is not an arcade CODstyle shooter for 10 yo kids who are raging. It's a military sim, the best there is. And it's amazing. 

 

sammoth
sammoth

@ZJohnnyZ

DayZ is a mod (Wasn't made a shooter it already was) and both games are not Death match Shooters. You need to look up the term MMORPG. Also DayZ was never advertised as an MMO. DayZ was designed as a survival game nothing more. It has done that very well for a MOD yes it has its bugs but, soon will have its own release hopefully polishing all of that.

 

 

sammoth
sammoth

 @DarthLodYpou do know the depressed guy is NOT the WarZ developer but the MOD creator of DayZ. 2 Differnt games get with the subject.

 

OneTime125
OneTime125

 @DarthLod I just made an account to ask you if you are really that stupid. DayZ and WarZ are made by completely different people, this guy did nothing wrong and you're an asshole.

frostmare101
frostmare101

 @spookysev

 when i saw that to . was like what the hell this game shoudn't even be on the leader board . guess gamers like scrap games like warz

sammoth
sammoth

 @G-Man4ever

 Wut both games are not MMO's. WTF are you talking about ? HL1 wasn't an MMO nor did it require server to client issues that MMO's go through. That is why textures are low in MMO's.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@Thanatos2k Pretty much any gamer who pays attention knew what the article was about. That doesn't excuse the lack of info but why would you click on something at random if you didn't know what it was.

pip3dream
pip3dream

 @Thanatos2k Right?  I thought like maybe my browser hadn't loaded the whole article when I got to the end of it.  Super slow day I guess?

Rippletonz
Rippletonz

 @myungish He's depressed (I think) because he's been pouring his heart and soul into something, and somebody went and brutally, shamelessly plagiarized it for their own gain.  That would be pretty demoralizing.  I think this whole thing might work out to his advantage though.  All of the negative attention for The WarZ and Hammerpoint Interactive may translate into increased awareness about DayZ.  I know I'm going to support DayZ with my patronage as a result of this. 

Kickable
Kickable

 @toshineon yea I'm a moron.  linked here from somewhere else just skimmed the article.

Grenadeh
Grenadeh

@Lov3IsPAiN @ZJohnnyZ Not really. it's not that great at all. Its just like the people who said joint task force or op flashpoint were great, they sucked.

Elena_The_Turk
Elena_The_Turk

@sammoth @G-Man4ever There are some MMO's with high-res textures... Like DDO, LOTRO, Aion, etc.

As well as Perfect World... Even though that game is shitty, the graphics are beautiful

spookysev
spookysev

 @Colekern  @FreedomPrime standalone isn't but the dayZ has over a million users and out a good while :) note to self...must not hide under rocks for long periods...

MagicSoupDragon
MagicSoupDragon

 @Rippletonz  @myungish I thought the same. It's difficult to just ignore someone throwing a game together and then claiming that it was their idea all along. I imagine it really does take a lot of the joy out of making dayZ for him being questioned about it all the time. I hope it does work to his advantage in the end; I for one, will certainly be buying dayZ.