Core gamers increasingly playing social titles - Report

Gaming social network Raptr finds 30% of Xbox 360 gamers, 12% of Call of Duty: Black Ops PC players have also played Zynga titles, even as Facebook market has hit a plateau.

The stereotypes for hardcore gamers and Facebook gamers look nothing alike, but the two groups may be more similar than previously thought. That was just one finding in a report released today by gaming social network Raptr, with results drawn from an examination of the playing habits of its 10-million-strong user base.

12% of Black Ops PC players also kick back with a little CityVille.

Among the statistics included in Raptr's report was that 30 percent of its tracked Xbox 360 players also played a Zynga game in 2011, a jump over the 20 percent overlap the service identified in 2010. As for specific games, Raptr found that nearly 20 percent of its World of Warcraft players have played Zynga's Cityville, while 12 percent of Call of Duty: Black Ops PC players had also played the Facebook game.

Raptr CEO Dennis Fong told GameSpot the company's discoveries also included a number of insights specific to Zynga's games. In particular, Fong noted that Zynga games cannibalize each other, with usage of the older 'Ville games often decreasing as soon as a new one is launched. However, he said the company does a good job of transitioning the user base to its new products, with more than 90 percent of one game's user base typically moving on to the next Zynga release upon launch.

"It doesn't appear like the social gaming audience as a whole is gaming anymore," Fong said. "It's kind of plateaued, so the ability to convert your old players into your new titles is pretty critical."

The full Raptr report is available at the company's official blog.

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97 comments
poncho174
poncho174

hardcore gamers are just people that spend a lot of time playing video games. It doesn't have anything to do with what kind of games you play. I could be a hardcore bejeweled player.

Blue-N-Yellow
Blue-N-Yellow

@ gameking5000 "If you're saying that CoD is not hardcore that what is? It's rated Mature " It's not hardcore. ESRB rating has nothing to do with it. Plenty of hardcore games rated E-T and with cartoony graphics.

Gooshnads
Gooshnads

If they call Black Ops players "core" gamers, Raptr is covering the wrong titles. Black Ops has been so heavily eaten up by the casual area that the game hardly contains any form of legitimate balance.

gameking5000
gameking5000

So 30% of Xbox users have a social life and 12% of Call of Duty: Black Ops PC players also have one. That is what this article is about. I don't get everyone taking shots at Zynga and Facebook. I know plenty of people on my Facebook page that play the social games and "hardcore games". Oh yeah, and LOL at everyone trying to make excuses to prove the the study wrong. If you're saying that CoD is not hardcore that what is? It's rated Mature and to be honest the ones who wail and complain are the ones that are kids.

gdogghenrikson
gdogghenrikson

wow, look at all these hypocrites bashing zynga who probibly have a mafia wars lvl 500 char.

ZoTrAcK
ZoTrAcK

It's already plateaued but companies still put billions investing in it... It's gonna crash hard someday... Social gaming phenomenom is a empty shell.

masterdrat
masterdrat

Also, these numbers fits with unemployement's rates. Too much time on their hands heh.

masterdrat
masterdrat

I'm pretty sure it's their mom using their pc

Rennar
Rennar

Right, 'cause Call of Duty players are "core gamers"

FallenOneX
FallenOneX

I'm 34, and I've been a gamer since I played the 2600. I've never played a game on Facebook, and don't even have a page. Shove that somewhere in your numbers report Raptr!

mario-nin-freak
mario-nin-freak

That's actually a small number :P Considering the fact that 10 million Xbox 360 owners have a Kinect, it seems like about 30% of people who play the Xbox 360 are casual and/or hardcore players. So this is actually just confirming that the 70% of people who are hardcore players won't play Zynga games.

sladakrobot
sladakrobot

I must be then one of the 70% X360 gamer who never play these games on PC or mobile phone.I dont even think that anyone can really explain me what "social" means in a game! You have contact to other ppl while playing? I have that on every online game. You can chat with others while playing?I have that already. The only diferences i see are that these games are for free,they are mostly very simple and no storydriven,andif you start that game to play seriously you are confronted with annoying microtransactions!

Megavideogamer
Megavideogamer

I don't use Facebook so I haven't played a Zynga game.

Dogswithguns
Dogswithguns

The facebook games are nothing but friends ask you or send you gifts.. it's pretty annoying when you don't really get to play the games instead of asking friends or helping for gifts or things. - the only Facebook game I don't mind playing is poker that's about it.

huytergeb
huytergeb

@Bratushka While personally I agree with playing not to "be 'core' or 'casual'" but just to play, I must say your "elitest" views are way off base and even backwards. (If you want proof, you tied in the music side of it very well..but how, but I ask did this happen? Three words: Bieber, Black, Swift.) And what successful band has been called a sellout ever? With the exception of those who were genuinely good back in the day (some of the last good ones I might add) (Enrique definately comes to mind and others..) whom, yes, did sell out to new themes of music by definition. I realize no one means to be taken literally half the time these days..it's what I do. Sorry if I offended you in any way.

Anime_Fan1986
Anime_Fan1986

I really thing social games are pointless. I hate when my friends send me invited to games I quit playing years ago. Farmville was so boring and pointless. Does anyone remember Mafia Wars or Vampires? They are all so terrible. People play these games because they are bored and are killing time on facebook, not because they are really good games. Lately I have been playing through Mass Effect. Now that is a true game to me. I just can't put it down because it's just so incredible and deep. I'll stick to playing real games on 360 and ps3 instead.

Bratushka
Bratushka

No disrespect intended, but some of the gaming comments smack of the same elitism rife in the music world. When some band gets more than 15 fans, suddenly they aren't cool anymore. Anybody who likes them is a miscreant. A band that actually succeeds are labeled sellouts. What defines a core / hardcore gamer? Someone who spends a lot on on a gaming PC, gaming peripherals, gets a new console whenever a better one comes out, and tries to get everything hardware-wise that enhances the gaming experience? Does buying 4, 5, or more games a month, year in and year out qualify? How about spending hours playing every day? What about trying to get in on beta testing, writing guides and walkthroughs? Creating mods? Helping gamers with problems? Some, all, or none of the preceding? According to some, you could do all of it, but if you play a certain title you are automatically not part of the "core crowd". Personally, I don't care what other gamers may consider me, but this kind of elitism always makes me shake my head. I don't play either Black Ops or WoW because I prefer WWI and WWII war games and sword n' sorcery stuff never interested me. I don't like the overly simple, minimalist games like the ones the article referred to because they don't do anything for me. The games I do play -currently about 70 titles on my PC, about 70 on my Steam account, and that many again on shelves and in boxes- I play because I want to, not to be "core", "casual" or anything else.

cybermyth21
cybermyth21

Many of you people are completely missing the point. I consider myself a hard-core gamer, but I can only play for long periods of time after 9 PM. I can't go cold-turkey from the time I wake up until 9 PM. I need my fix, it is like a drug habit. So I login to play these micro-games at work or on my iPhone when waiting in lines or whenever I can. Unless your unemployed or in College, you need these Facebook games to hold you until you can sit down for more than 10 minutes.

jimmyzeke13
jimmyzeke13

casual games are a cancer on the video game industry

supertom221
supertom221

AHAHAHAHAH. What a bulls*** article. Black Ops "gamers" are little kids who play with their little friends online. These are the same zit-faced kids that log on to facebook. How is someone who plays BLack Ops and CityVille a core gamer?? Dear Brendan, what the hell??

Bratushka
Bratushka

I don't get those games on Facebook. I haven't played them much, but they certainly are minimalist. I have read about people spending a fortune on DLC (I assume) for items that are used in these games. One player was dropping like $500 a month until her husband found out and made her stop. My own observation is this: after the last place I worked closed ex-employees set up a Facebook page. I have gotten hundreds of requests to play these games. 85% of the requests from them were from people over 45 who had no other gaming experience on either PC or consoles. Other requests came from people I wouldn't even call gamers based on how many games they owned or how much time they spent playing. From a purely game quality point of view, they don't stack up at all against games I have or even those I played as long as 10 years ago! The extras make them cost more money than the newest PC games and more than monthly subscriptions for others! If I want "casual gaming" I have Microsoft's Return of Arcade, Tetris, and the WIndows freebie games to waste time with. There are a huge number of free and cheap casual games available online, too. Worse, EULA for the Facebook offerings has you grant total access to all your information, posts, pictures, etc.to Zynga and over-ride your privacy settings.

Rottenwood
Rottenwood

Maybe I'm fuzzy on what the term 'core gamer' entails, but does Call of Duty really qualify? I'm sure some devoted gamers play that stuff, but I'd guess that the majority audience is adolescent/teenage boys and casual male gamers that only own FPS titles and Madden. These guys only know of Atlus as "one of the bosses in that God of War game my broski Jeff has." Which is fine, mind you - not everyone has to be a big a nerd as I am - but I don't know if that's useful data for a gamer geek/Zynga crossover. To me, a 'core' gamer spent this year playing stuff like Catherine, Portal 2, and other cerebral and immersive titles. I doubt they'd be much impressed with those shallow tinesink games on Facebook, unless they were utterly bored at work and the Internet ran out of crossword puzzles.

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

Yep.. The 360 clearly is the hardcore gamers console.....

gamescottsman
gamescottsman

Sorry but this statement does apply to me, nor allot of my 'hardcore' gamer friends. Don't blanket cover!

hnirvana
hnirvana

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2bitSmOkEy
2bitSmOkEy

lol @ Call of Duty players being considered 'core' gamers. No.

Decon96
Decon96

Call of Duty players aren't core gamers, they're Call of Duty gamers. They tend to not play anything else but the most hyped up and popular titles that are released. It's like calling someone a music expert that only listens to Brittany Spears and Lady Gaga.

drokmore
drokmore

Just because a core gamer plays a social game at least ONCE, key word, in a year is there a big change. Honestly a lot of the core games hit a dry spot thus summer and I've been Golfing off on my phone. Come this fall however there is a sea of core gaming to be done.

kupo1705
kupo1705

CoD/WoW and Farmville are both casual games. Maybe not on the same level, but they're still both casual games.

BAD-C0MPANY
BAD-C0MPANY

>Raptr >Core gamers I don't think so GameSpot.

xXFr34k_0uTXx
xXFr34k_0uTXx

I don't have anything against Zynga, I've played a few of their games. Nothing spectacular or worth spending money on. That's just me though.

YoungCardinal
YoungCardinal

70% of statistics are made up on the spot...but seriously, Why do people waste time with these studies and try to make correlations between core games and casual gamers. Obviously when you follow statistics from a 10 million user base, you will find some small correlation to some games, but that doesn't make it unique in anyway.

GamerYnoX
GamerYnoX

Yeah hardcore gamers with no games to play and CoD kids play farmville

max_1111
max_1111

Where do these idiotic articles keep coming from?!

happyhap2
happyhap2

Do these people even know what a hardcore gamer is? the anwser is no.

hippiesanta
hippiesanta

the only social gaming I play is Playstation home

Death_Blade_182
Death_Blade_182

WoW and CoD players aren't exactly "hardcore" to begin with...

helldew
helldew

i think they have their hard core user based mixed up here. not to mention gamers like playing games i have a i touch for crying out loud to test out what games are there. we show loyalty to whats good not stupid categories.

SmashBrawlerBoy
SmashBrawlerBoy

Well I don't know about the people you studied, but I do know that there are a lot of stupid people out there...

weggierie
weggierie

GAH! I was gonna Edit it but I deleted it by accident... anyways, this report is BS, and COD is a game for the masses, its like the Social Gaming of FPS's, I guess Zynga wants to make people think that by playing their games, you become a gamer :)

weggierie
weggierie

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Daian
Daian

I wanna know what the guys that made this so called report are smoking so we can try some...

Cybrian
Cybrian

It would be safe to assume that this report was message-massaged to further the company line, but my comment is on 'Facebook' games in general - I've haven't played any of these so-called 'social games', and if I did it would be merely to satisfy my curiosity about the games themselves. I'm not on Facebook (peace be on thee...not hating!), and I admit that I consider "social games" little more than an easily-available distraction for those who have a casual interest in games (or some time to kill), but it's my impression that "gamers" (hard-core and otherwise) tend to focus on playing and enjoying games, while "Facebook gamers" may be drawn more by the wider "social" aspect framing the gaming experience. But video-gamers now have a wealth of options available if they wish to play in a more social context. As a gamer I could easily (and more pleasurably) sate my needs for "online sociability" by signing up for one of the many MMO's currently in play, where my gaming experience would be enhanced by the knowledge that I'm surrounded by (generally) like-minded peers. We all have different goals, or aim to satisfy different needs, when we sit down to play a game, but Angry Birds? Farmville? Is that all it takes? Man, I wish I were that lucky! My last stress-release session was a two hour rampage through cities reduced to heaps of slag. After such an episode, could you imagine having to return to a humble farm to deal with a recalcitrant hen or a wayward sheep?

kiopta1
kiopta1

I am more into single player games and then maybe dable in MP....any game that is 100% MP (or its best elements are MP) dont interest me that much. I think thats mostly cause for every cool group of players i play with...there are 25 piss poor or baby groups that annoy me so much I have to go punch myself in the crotch to ease the pain.

Kayweg
Kayweg

Sometimes i really get the feeling they write this nonsense coz they WANT to believe it....sigh