Confirmed: Trophies, in-game XMB in PS3 v2.40 update

Following rumors, Sony Computer Entertainment America officially comes clean, promising introduction of both features "soon."

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At the end of last month, footage and screens of what purported to be two major new additions to the PlayStation 3 hit the Web. The first was the introduction of PS3 trophies, the console's equivalent to the Xbox 360 achievement system, which was first revealed at the 2007 Game Developers Conference. The second was an in-game XrossMediaBar (XMB), a feature that would allow players access to friends' lists, messages, and game invitations much like the 360's blade menu system. Currently, PS3 owners must quit their games to access the XMB.

I call this one "Hellghast Under Glass."

In April, SCEA senior vice president of marketing and PlayStation Network Peter Dille promised that in-game XMBs would arrive this year. Information accompanying the leaked footage and screens said the PS3 development kits displaying the feature and the trophies was running v2.40 of the console firmware. Given that Sony's v2.20, v2.30, and v2.35 firmware upgrades were released one month apart in mid-March, mid-April, and mid-May, Sony's numbering system dictated that the v2.40 firmware would likely arrive sometime around mid-June.

Today, just days short of the summer solstice, Sony announced its next firmware update would be coming soon--and that it wouldn't be v2.40 after all. "A new PlayStation 3 firmware update (v2.36) will be launching soon, improving system stability when playing select PlayStation format software titles," PlayStation Network Operations director Eric Lempel announced on the official PlayStation Blog.

Luckily, Sony--which had remained mum during the May leaks--also came clean today, confirming v2.40 of the PS3 firmware will indeed contain the previously mentioned features. "We're also happy to officially report that the 2.40 system software update for PS3 will include XMB access in-game," continued Lempel. "The update will also include trophies, an exciting new feature that we'll be providing more details on soon, as well as some other new enhancements."

Unfortunately, Sony was silent on further in-game XMB and PS3 trophy details. Besides the v2.40 firmware's unspecified launch date, questions remain about whether or not the in-game XMB will allow the playing of custom soundtracks from ripped audio or connected MP3 players, as the 360 does. It is also unclear if the PS3's Web browser will be accessible during gameplay, a functionality that would allow players to use Internet game guides on the fly midgame.

So does this mean Lair will get retroactive trophies?

It also remains to been seen whether or not the PS3's trophy system would have a cross-game numerical value akin to the 360's GamerScore or whether the system will be retroactively bestowed on titles a la Dual Shock 3 rumble functionality. There also is no information as to whether, in multiplatform titles, Sony would dole out trophies for the same in-game feats that yield 360 achievements.

So far, Sony has only officially revealed that it would award trophies as 3D, virtual statuettes to display in a player's in-game abode in PlayStation Home. That avatar-based service was recently further delayed and is tentatively set to launch at the end of the year.

Discussion

463 comments
BuckGame
BuckGame

MAN METAL GEAR SOLID 4 NEEDS TROPHIES WHERE R THEY DO ANYBODY NO HOW I CAN ASK THE RIGHT PEOPLE

tg17
tg17

adkcrazox wat the hell man lol

Darkblyth
Darkblyth

Microsoft Just Copied The Wii and hope not hop lol

TUNEwon
TUNEwon

The trophies are worth the drama. I like the RPG element in the leveling. I have most of the trophies available and I'm hungry for more. Now serving hater tots...

adkcrazox
adkcrazox

i hope the 360 get home because ps3 copy so much stuff lmao

Darkblyth
Darkblyth

I hop they look better than 360s

ShadowOfKratos
ShadowOfKratos

DELAYTION?? you do realize that when our DELAYTION is fully functional you'll still be looking at plane (lame) screens when chatting to your hommies, while we're gonna be doing the same thing on a fully rendered and customizable 3D environment right...? and when that day comes I wonder who will be behind and who will be calling what "DELAYTION"...

Ozzie234
Ozzie234

Ps3 was BUTT-UGLY thropies. And what for? Oh, you managed level 2 - you get BRONZE!!!! lol.

DJKrayz_basic
DJKrayz_basic

i wonder, for those who participate in the closed Home beta, if those trophies will be able to be displayed within the Homestead.. i know right now there isnt a lot of things going on in the Home beta, but maybe they will update the beta to add this new firmware update..

TMac83138
TMac83138

I just read an article on Talk Playstation that 2.4 will be coming out on July 1st, 2nd or 3rd....I guess that is not too bad. Also the article stated it was originally supposed to be released on June 18th but then they saw issues with the XMB that they had to fix.

ao28
ao28

I've been waiting for Home, achievments/trophies, and not having to quit to view messages for a long time and it's almost here!

Sil3ntStRik3R
Sil3ntStRik3R

....aww i was anxiously waiting to d.l the new update hoping it would b version 2.4.....damn..it....i guess...a couple of more months.will do.

TMac83138
TMac83138

I had faith in the PS3 from day 1. I knew they would make me very happy with a great update like 2.4. And then there is Playstation Home which is going to be great. $500 (I got a 20GB 3 days after it came out....) VERY WELL spent!!

Kane04
Kane04

"" agree, its not like MS never copy anything from Sony, btw i don't recall MS inventing anything at all since its beginning but thats just me i think..

Goobers
Goobers

re Moej88 WHO said 2.4 would be out in mid-June? was it the company making the firmware or a gaming website that STATED it was "probably" mid-June? and yes, they did release a firmware in "mid-June"... unfortunately, it wasn't 2.4, but instead 2.36. 2.36 came out the day after this article was posted. as for the Trophies... until home is released, it'll be a -2D- icon in the XMB.

moej88
moej88

They said mid june for 2.4. Today is the 21st of june.... I dont see 2.4

KaosKetchup
KaosKetchup

I honestly dont think that the web browser will be accessible through in game xmb, but itd be cool. also, i dont think a "numerical value such as gamerscore" should be inducted as then people only play games to get the score and they forget what games are all about, but on the upside people will buy more games. :)

BigDaddy973
BigDaddy973

So this should mean that Home will be out soon too? But there has not even been a beta yet... How can you see other peoples trophies as well as your own?

Mehzzz
Mehzzz

I honestly dont give a damn if its copying or whatever, as long as it is good then everything is O.K

combatsoldier
combatsoldier

thankyou and i appreciate it. ya i have the big ol 1080p t.v. thats the only way to go brother. so there is a reason to have blu ray. thanks man

darkride66
darkride66

combatsoldier asked "what is the difference between a blu ray and a 1080p upconverter for standard dvds?" A little off topic, but what the hey. Regular DVD's are working with a 480p signal (lines on the screen), and the upconverters use math and color tricks to improve the look of the 480p signal, but there isn't any change frames per second or anything to that effect (native fps for Hollywood films is 24fps) , it's more of a resolution question, and 1080p simply has more information, much more detail up on that screen. On top of that the sound on Blu-Ray is uncompressed, so there is no loss from the original master tracks as there is with the transfer and compression necessary for movies to fit on DVD's. If you have the TV and sound equipment capable of putting this all to use, it's pretty impressive.

OGRC
OGRC

personally I think this is a really good idea. I mean it was clever the way Microsoft did it I'm looking forward to the ps3 now. It should be really cool p.s. Final nail in xbox360's coffin?

combatsoldier
combatsoldier

i am so happy about this. it cant come soon enough in my opinion. I have a serious question guys. Now i have a blu ray obviously and a normal dvd player. what is the difference between a blu ray and a 1080p upconverter for standard dvds. is it frames per second or what. please let me know. thankyou.

GRECS85
GRECS85

uuuuh DAN2002sk8er i dont think using dvds was a ripoff from the ps2 its just common sence why would microsoft use a dead and expensive format for games

Dan2002sk8er
Dan2002sk8er

No update 2.4 isn't delayed they said that the Next update would arrive Mid-June they never said which update that would be, and since 2.36 would be the logical step after 2.35 it makes sense. but 2.4 will be here in no time, so don't worry about it.

Neo1O1
Neo1O1

The PS3 is a technological powerhouse that only gets better.

Dan2002sk8er
Dan2002sk8er

Thank god about time, I thought that both of these were nothing special until I bought a 360 that's when I realized I needed it on the PS3 as well. I wonder how the trophies will work will I have to beat GTA4 and MGS4 again??? I was planning on it anyways but if the Trophies don't roll over it will be a priority. note at metalman300- All the console manufactures "Rip off" each other. look at the 360's controller, 4 shoulder buttons, 2 analogue sticks, a d-pad, and 4 face buttons arranged in a diamond pattern. where have a seen this before??? not to knock the 360 i have one as well, but yes they stole the design from sony and tweaked it a little yes the PSN is like XBL. Also the 360 runs on DVD just like the PS2 did maybe they stole that idea too they could have used cartrages for the original X-Box ever think of that. I hate Fanboys like you, they ruin what video games are about, they are about Fun not who's console is better.

death11dragon
death11dragon

ahh i can see the jealousy all these xbox fanboy's eyes, first MGS4 launch and now this, how much worst could it get (or better in another point of view)

darkride66
darkride66

@ lightning150. Ok, let's play, spot the fanboy. First up, HVAC0120. "I prefer the XMB. It responds much faster and is simple to use." That's true. lightning150: "You can access your friends from any game at any time." Oh, I'm sorry Lightning150. The 2.4 version of PSN (what's being discussed here) does this too. Hvac0120: "It takes FOREVER just to load you pics. It's even harder to find pics you JUST downloaded." Hmm... I've struggled with that as well. Also true. lightning150: "That's why XBox Live is better than the PSN. Quit flaming your ps3 you raving ps3....(edited)" Oh, actually, you loose right there for being homophobic. It's racists and homophobes that ruin XBL, and give gaming a bad name. This type of bigotry should not be tolerated by anyone, anywhere. In what world do you live where this is acceptable? Thanks for coming out, and I hope you get modded to the point that you can never use this site again!

darkride66
darkride66

@ cyntori. This article only mentioned "the v2.4 firmware's unspecified launch date". It did not claim anywhere that the firmware was delayed, and we never really had a date to delay in the first place. As for the Home being pushed back, they announced that Home was delayed a couple of months ago.

MetalMan300
MetalMan300

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lightning150
lightning150

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cyntori
cyntori

@darkride66 Then what did you interperet these quote as meaning? "Today, just days short of the summer solstice, Sony announced its next firmware update would be coming soon--and that it wouldn't be v2.4 after all. "A new PlayStation 3 firmware update (v2.36) will be launching soon,"" & "That avatar-based service was recently further delayed and is tentatively set to launch at the end of the year. " Cause both of those quotes sound like they are pushing back the release dates of both v2.4 & Home. Maybe it's just me and subz3ro999.

09231991
09231991

OMFG! Can we stop this useless bickering?! Jeez man, its very depressing to read about everyone bashing one another system just because they don't like what you like. Seriously, get over yourself and shut up and go play the system you all claim to love. By the end of this year or some time next year, you won't be able to experience TRUE next-gen gaming without owning both, simple as that.

darkride66
darkride66

subz3ro999 said "Home's delayed, AGAIN, so is v2.40!?!? OMFG!?!?" What? What are you talking about. No where in this article does it say either Home or v2.4 have been delayed. 2.4 didn't even have a release date attached to it. All we knew prior to this is we are supposed to get it by year end.

subz3ro999
subz3ro999

That's so screwed! Home's delayed, AGAIN, so is v2.40!?!? OMFG!?!?

unreal_ed
unreal_ed

"The first was the introduction of PS3 trophies, the console's equivalent to the Xbox 360 achievement system" "The second was an in-game XrossMediaBar (XMB), a feature that would allow players access to friends' lists, messages, and game invitations much like the 360's blade menu system." HaHA! so true and so sad!

darkride66
darkride66

necronaux said "The end of the year launch? Eh, waited this long..." I say this will be out in 3 weeks or less. Place your bets, place your bets!

necronaux
necronaux

The end of the year launch? Eh, waited this long, what's 6 more months. If it gets delayed any further, PS4 will be out.

Nineball2112
Nineball2112

Well, things are definately going the right direction for Sony and the PS3. For one, this upcoming update addresses a couple of the issues with PSN making it as good (imo and many others) if not better than XBL. Oh, and it's FREE! Secondly, according to vchartz.com, the worldwide hardware and software sales for the week ending June 13th shows the PS3 sold a ton and MGS4 was definately a system seller. [url=http://www.n4g.com/News-159149.aspx]Worldwide Hardware and Software Chart for Week Ending June 13th, 2008[/url] Keep in mind this is sales data for days of sales for MGS4. So, keep the updates coming Sony... it's all icing on the cake.

jknight5422
jknight5422

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cooldude03
cooldude03

trophies too little too late. I've been working on my Xbox360 gamerscore too long to start working for trophies. It won't change the way I game PS3 exclusives I'm there, multiplatform releases gamerscore is calling my name and it's too loud to ignore. But I'm glad Sony's making an effort to catch up with Xbox360.

darkride66
darkride66

@ Hvac0120. Careful. By even comparing the two services you're likely to incur Yuck_too's wrath. We aren't allowed to discuss these issues, apparently.

Hvac0120
Hvac0120

I really don't see what is so significantly better with XBL over PSN. People have clearly laid out the significant features and it seems that the PSN will be matching XBL 1:1. So why again is XBL better? Preference on the 360 Blade Menu and the PS3 XMB is debatable, but comes down to personal preference. I prefer the XMB. It responds much faster and is simple to use. However I still like the Blade menu. I just want it to respond faster. Right now if feel it is too slow and clunky. For seeing this yourself, go to you list of downloaded gamerpics. It takes FOREVER just to load you pics. It's even harder to find pics you JUST downloaded. This is just one example. I don't see the menu system as a basis for debate on which online service is better. You base it on the features, the content, the community, and the support. After the 2.4 update, the PSN will basically be 1:1 with XBL. If the menu is that important; do you really feel that a better menu system is worth the $50? (based on the assumption that you believe the Blade menu is better)

darkride66
darkride66

Yuck_Too said "Read all the posts...you are the only one here moaning about the 360 short comings...it's too bad." Hmm. Looking at my posts I see myself commenting on issues raised by other posters, and nowhere am I complaining about the 360. Again, do you have something to add to this thread or or you just here to take shots at me?

darkride66
darkride66

shaun_mcwayne said " i would rather pay for a good service that i use every day with loads of friends than never use a free service because its badly planned out." You find the PSN badly planned out? I find the media bar very quick and easy to use for accessing my friends list for voice chat, messages, etc. I find the blades a little clunky. Just for clarification, how do you think the PSN is badly planned?

Yuck_Too
Yuck_Too

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shaun_mcwayne
shaun_mcwayne

being both an 360 and a ps3 owner now im not a fanboy on any side. but i have to say that ps3 has loads to do before it even gets close to 360 for user friendlyness 360s blade system works a treat. ps3s achievement system sounds good as the 360 one makes u play games to death to get those cheivements and if ps3 copy 360 they will be on to a winner, it will be a great addition to ps3 and will make u dust off those game u think you've whipped and play them again. ps3 really need to catch up in my opinion and by then 360 might be doing somthing even better. plz dont give me the psn if free crap because i would rather pay for a good service that i use every day with loads of friends than never use a free service because its badly planned out. so if ya have loads of friends and want to play online in a quick fun way go with 360. now if ya have no friends or just a few and like less features and less of everything else go with ps3. until sony let me use these features my ps3 will be for watching blu rays and playing mgs and my 360 will be for serious fun gaming. check out my game vids on you tube just search shaun mcwayne and ull see what im talking aboot

darkride66
darkride66

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