Carmack has 'itch' to make Kinect XBLA game

Chief technical officer of id Software interested in motion-sensing peripheral, but doesn't know what kind of game he'd make with it.

At his QuakeCon keynote session in August, id Software chief technical officer John Carmack repeatedly mentioned his struggle to balance all the projects he wants to do with the time he needs to do just a few of them well. He cleared one of those projects off his slate this week with the release of an iOS version of Rage, but the list of things he'd like to do isn't getting any shorter.

Carmack has lots of itches. Maybe he should look into an antihistamine, or perhaps some cortisone.

In an interview with Joystiq yesterday, the developer confessed, "I have an itch to make a Kinect title for Xbox Live." However, Carmack doesn't have a solid idea of what that title would look like, telling the site he couldn't use Kinect "for our real games," or for their style of first-person shooters.

Carmack's quotes suggest he has warmed up to the idea of Kinect games since his QuakeCon address. In that speech, Carmack downplayed his interest in working with motion-sensing controllers, saying most of his ideas focus on output rather than input. While he said id Software didn't have plans to use motion controls in its games, he added that he expected someone else to make something spectacular with the technology.

It isn't just his own duties on Rage and the next version of the id Tech engine that could keep Carmack from getting around to working on Kinect. Beyond his workload for id Software, Carmack devotes as much time as he can spare to his own Armadillo Aerospace. Carmack established the upstart rocket company eight years ago and put more than $4 million of his own money into getting it off the ground. The company has since managed to turn a profit, but its main goal remains promoting space exploration by developing cheaper, reusable rocket technology.

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spartan117a1
spartan117a1

@Psychokillaz That would be the only reason i'd have for buying an xbox.

Phatjam98
Phatjam98

Oh its fun to see how short sighted many of you seem to be. Even Carmack has said someone will make something amazing for Kinect and after playing with it for awhile wants to make something himself for it. But you guys keep tellin yourselves how bad Kinect is LOL

Fred5107
Fred5107

@Psychokillaz Exactly, I saw that on the news.

Psychokillaz
Psychokillaz

The only thing Kinect would be kool for is a AO Porno game

demonlord6696
demonlord6696

"Look at this! I always wondered where my mandibula was!"

zer0ne
zer0ne

Move, Kinect, battle of controllers. What I feel is, that these controllers will be only effective on certain kind of games only. Move will be successful in sports games that uses equipment and shooting games. RPG, adventure, racing and puzzle games fails here. Kinect will be successful in dancing and certain sports games that involves the whole body experience. RPG, adventure, racing and puzzle games fails here too.

Zephol
Zephol

john carmack you are a god!

Zephol
Zephol

john carmack is a god!

ele975
ele975

@rpgnutt Thanks! Personally i think John Carmack could make the mech game! :D

organbank
organbank

and I have a itch not to buy it

rpgnutt
rpgnutt

@ele975......get out of my head!!!!!really think about what he said......ur a mech the cockpit/interface outlines the tv u control the mech with hand and leg motion.think about mech warriors but with kinect ability.....i hope the right person reads this!!!!!!!

jedediahpelland
jedediahpelland

"telling the site he couldn't use Kinect "for our real games," or for their style of first-person shooters." That line says it all about Kinect

Shimonhead
Shimonhead

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LeoLex_
LeoLex_

WHO THE F*** WROTE THAT COMMENT UNDER CARMACKS PIC!!!!!!!

hyksiu
hyksiu

He needs to get an itch to make Rage awesome.

petemig
petemig

He should resurrect Leisure Suit Larry for Kinect. That would be very interesting with the motion sensing. ;)

fts89
fts89

that comment below Carmack's pic is cheap. what happened?

SicklySunStorm
SicklySunStorm

I'm not interested at all in using Kinect to entirely control a game, but integrate it with a control pad for most controls, and add some cool gestures for off the cuff special moves here and there with Kinect, and I can see it being a lot of fun to use for sure.

Sirbobislost
Sirbobislost

@ThePowerOfHAT Spot on the games for kinect just don't apeal to me but if they made black and White3 with kinect support that would I would seriously consider picking that up

namdar
namdar

@ahpuck Dude have you played Serious Sam? you can get that now in rich 3D

Stabby
Stabby

I've heard it's bad to scratch too much...

ThePowerOfHAT
ThePowerOfHAT

"However, Carmack doesn't have a solid idea of what that title would look like, telling the site he couldn't use Kinect "for our real games"..." This is pretty much what all developers seem to be suggesting these days. And it's exactly why Kinect has yet to impress me. Until I start seeing Kinect being the primary control for a major title, I'm not gonna consider it. I'm still of the opinion that Molyneux owes us Black & White 3 with Kinect controls. That'd be sheer brilliance.

santinegrete
santinegrete

Makes me wonder if ID will set/raise the bar in gameplay along everything else (except story) with RAGE. Doom 3 was an example of that (even if I enjoyed it). Still, I won't deny ID's huge contribution to videogames since the early 90's.

koolmidx
koolmidx

The nerd who deserves more gratitude for the success of games such as Halo and Call of Duty than their publishers who are in bed with one another anyway, is the nerd who will clear the fog and sail you to calm waters. Suggest, speculate, and discuss what you want, but id will continue to push the envelope, set the bar, and make you wish you remembered your adult daipers when you play Rage for the first time. They got it, they always had it, and don't need Kinect, motion control, or anyone elses I.P. to make what they're cooking taste gooooood!

JOKER677
JOKER677

wow thought rage release date was closer than that

vaejas
vaejas

Scratch: The Ultimate Doomguy?

mrzero1982pt2
mrzero1982pt2

two words: DO IT. that rage game on the ipod is amazing.

ahpuck
ahpuck

@freestyler_85. LOL, you're right! Give us a proper Doom game, dude. Doom 3 was ok, but it was no Doom game. I want to see large open spaces with waves of enemies coming at me at the same time, not only 2-3 through narrow corridors.

Arcadia_Roxas
Arcadia_Roxas

I don't have/want a 360 of the Kinect, but as I was asking myself that a game like this would be nice to see.

redskinStu
redskinStu

Maybe it'll be AWESOME, like Doom 3 or Daikatana.

freestyler_85
freestyler_85

Hey Carmack, how about you get an itch to make Doom 4? who cares about Kinect

slicedbread117
slicedbread117

id is all about the FPS as we know but will that work on kinect?

gamerpipe
gamerpipe

I have a better idea. make Kinect works on PC, and let pc developers do the magic without restriction and Microsoft pretending to be a "family guy" . I think Kinect can work well in the adult industry.

ele975
ele975

How about you are inside this massive robot in the FAR future which you make it move by specific stanses and all the robots fights with giant metal swords or plasma swords or something? Now, before you press "dislike" think for a moment about it!

Proman84
Proman84

Changing an existing game like Rage to support Kinect makes little sense. Here's hoping for a new IP desined specifically for it.

magicalclick
magicalclick

the smarter way is to make Rage engine supports Kinnect in an intuitive way. Than, he can let everyone else to think about what to make using his engine as a platform. He really need to understand he is a tech guy, and should focus on tool, middleware, platform layer.

frazzle00
frazzle00

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badtaker
badtaker

As always many people got butt-hurt by statement. He is the programming God and if in future he makes kinect game it will be lag free

stlouiscardinal
stlouiscardinal

You don't want to do that Carmack, The Kinect is a bomb. Work on Doom 4 , woot!

nparks
nparks

Making good Kinect games is going to take some thinking outside of the proverbial box (I hate that box!) It is a profoundly different interface from the controller and even from the Wii/Move style motion-controllers.

plm3d_basic
plm3d_basic

I think a lot of old school game developers like Carmack long for the good ole days where it took 1 or 3 people to make a game in their garage for about a year and then make millions of dollars from it. Which is why he's doing a lot of programming for the mobile devices like iphone and ipad. As engines and graphics become more complex, it requires more people, work, time, and money to make a AAA title. But a casual game requires almost nothing with nothing to risk as well. Wii Fit costs next to nothing to produce and has made as much money as Call of Duty. I can see him making a FPS or Doom game using Kinect that combines fitness with gaming.

Darkmoone1
Darkmoone1

.......Somebody give him baby powder.

bunnyman14
bunnyman14

Carmack is more of an engineer than a game designer. I'm sure he can make some great software for Kinect that's very stable and precise, but whether id makes something fun and creative with it, is debatable.

parrot_of_adun
parrot_of_adun

@GodGundamNT1 Irrelevant? The guy's celebrated for making modern FPSs possible. And STILL does great work. And when we're all gone, his titles all stand a bigger chance of being remembered than... halo...

Blade8Aus
Blade8Aus

@PCbadjer It has been over six years now XD Well, if you don't include their mobile titles or ports anyway.

chikahiro94
chikahiro94

Wow... nice to know some folks don't know who John Carmack is or what he does. Hint: he writes graphics engines. And unlike Epic? He's open-sourced his old ones. Be awesome if more companies did that.