Call of Duty: Black Ops, Modern Warfare 2 best Battlefield 3 on XBL

DICE's latest shooter sees fewer Xbox Live players than either of Activision's last two military shooters during its first week of release.

It's no secret that Battlefield 3 is EA's big attempt to grab a piece of Activision's military-based first-person shooter pie. The vehicle-heavy shooter came out of the gate with 5 million in sales, but even before the launch of Modern Warfare 3, its success is put into perspective when pitted against past installments in the Call of Duty franchise.

This battle may last a while.

Xbox Live usage stats posted on Xbox Live director of programming Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb's blog reveal that Battlefield 3 has garnered a chunk of Xbox Live players in the week following its launch, but the past two Call of Duty games still managed to best it. Stats accounting for unique users from October 24-30 reveal that Call of Duty: Black Ops and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 each had more active players than DICE's latest, putting the Frostbite 2-powered shooter in the third spot.

Those numbers may not come as a shock to EA. During a recent interview, EA COO Peter Moore told GameSpot that the publisher would be happy if Battlefield 3 could bring Call of Duty's 90 percent market share from last year down to around 70 percent. "We don't have to outsell Call of Duty to have a very successful year," said Moore.

For more on EA's latest shooter, check out GameSpot's review of Battlefield 3.

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peck112
peck112

If you're buying BF3 for the single-player, then I'd forget it - even as a fan I'm happy to admit that's crap, but the multiplayer is awesome. The BF series never was the same as the MW series - it's about expansive and above all REALISTIC gameplay. So yes, sometimes you can get pinged in the head 5 times before you kill anyone and it's annoying, but that's how it is - I don't think even America soldiers would run around a corner in enemy territory without looking! Also, this is very much a team game rather than everyone just hip-firing and bunny-hopping round a map the size of a milk crate! Put it this way, after playing a few rounds of BFBC2, if I then go and play Black Ops, I end up at the top of the leaderboard. If it's the other way round, then I die a lot! Also this game is for the PC, and is retrofitted to consoles - no problems with the 30fps, because it's 60fps on PC. Also the graphics are better and there are more people playing it on PC. The vast majority of console gamers are casual ones, who like to jump on a couple of times a week and have a bit of a blast around. For that sort of gaming CoD wins hands down, but the challenge and variety on the BF series is what keeps people playing it for decades!

VisualPendulum
VisualPendulum

Well, this is just on Xbox Live. I'd expect PC to be off the charts, as Battlefield was originally a PC series. Xbox users are pretty big on Call of Duty.

dxBIGBOSSxb
dxBIGBOSSxb

"DICE's latest shooter sees fewer Xbox Live players than either of Activision's last two military shooters during its first week of release." Probably because they're all playing on the P.C, the thing that has kept the series alive for over 10 years now and has proven to hold the superior copies of the game. This means nothing, especially since first week sales boasted 12 million, beating Black Ops by over double the first week sales. I'm not a fan of either series... well I am, but I've been a fan of both since the beginning. This isn't a fanboy rant, and this isn't trolling, this is me stating a fact, anyone who is somehow hurt by this is an idiot.

Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

MW is like facebook...just because its really, really popular right now...doesn't mean its better. Just look at its user base....(i used to love CoD until i realized i was being fed different versions of the same exact game year after year, seriously, they keep renaming the same flippin perks as if it were something new....AND ontop of that... paying top dollar for older maps from previous titles. what kind of BS is that?!)

106473
106473

@RitsukoEX Why thank you people don't enjoy nice things these days I suppose.

MW2ismygame
MW2ismygame

i wonder how many of these "stats" also included all of the extra accounts that are in call of duty and all of the hackers banned accounts as well and personally i dont care if there are not as many as cod. SO WHAT? ill have fun just the same with 5 million as i will have 10......

MrArmageddon17
MrArmageddon17

@ MoreThot Ford sells for cheaper because they make cheaper cars. Don't be a idiot calling people dense over the internet because they disagree with someone's comment. BMW are better cars so they sell for more. Also if you did any research you would know that BMWs are also made in the USA. I know he said nothing about price, that's why the analogy doesn't make sense. Would people buy BF3 if they had to pay more for it?? This is my point not that the quality vs. quantity statement was incorrect. Maybe you would realize that if you weren't dense.

106473
106473

Yes, Xbox doesn't really get the whole graphics ideology when it comes to games. Anyone who can afford a new PC or can run BF3 already will play it on the PC, if not they will play it on the PS3. CoD is for the casual shooter and Xbox is for the casual player.

DilPower
DilPower

@Gelugon_baat Watch your spelling, you're getting too emotional.

SuddenEvil
SuddenEvil

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gam3r2011
gam3r2011

in the end the casual ppl's game (Call of Duty) surpasses the true gamer's game (Battlefield)

DilPower
DilPower

@Gelugon_baat I can see it is impossible to have a reasonable argument where there is obvious bias... waste of time. No offence, but objectivity is no happening here. Ciao.

fobbs69
fobbs69

Ive played both the 360 and PC version. Yes the PC version looks better and has more players, but thats all. In a game mode like rush, the fighting is centered on a certain location so it never fels empty.on consoles. And i would think it is impossible for BF3 to initially have more players than COD, since those games have been out for a while, and have a much larger current user base.

777mikemc777
777mikemc777

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dwoop
dwoop

Also didn't help that they're servers were down and have been having issues for half the time the game has been out. If Dice were an independent company it would probably do better and have less issues than being under EA's "anal protective control freak" issues with everything including they're (buggy) independent servers!

luv2dance1984
luv2dance1984

Lol XBL pc is where it's at Cod 4 was amazing when it came out, now they are just cashing in on the franchise A new cod every year, ask yourself how much has changed same old engine, guns still sound the same and all have flat textures. Only thing good about it now is the storytelling . Iam not gonna spend hours to unlock the exactly same gun I have already unlocked 5 times

mtait01
mtait01

... and this surprises anyone?

spOOoOOn
spOOoOOn

I'd be inclined to say... so what?

777mikemc777
777mikemc777

@DarkTempest7 Thanks for proving the point of my earlier post...

Brumbek
Brumbek

@SkamArtist I have several close friends who also feel that BF3 is very fun despite its issue. I, personally, can't overlook its issues, so it ruins it for me. But I'm glad you enjoy it, no joke. BF3 flaws, there's the graphical glitches and the washed out ambient lighting, but those are forgivable. The clunky player movement and vehicle movement is the biggest technical issue for me. Did you play Dead Island? That's an exaggerated example of clunky controls. BF3 isn't that bad, but it's close. The engine doesn't render things as cleanly as the Quake3/IW engine. This point gets very technical, but the result is objects in motion are harder to see, such as characters. Likewise, the collision engine including hit detection has issues. Another very technical subject. When BF3 characters are performing certain animations at certain angles, it's possible for hits to not register. MW games have 100% per pixel accurate hit detection. BF3 on consoles running at 30FPS is something that's very noticeable to all the MW 60FPS players. I don't play on console, but I know this is another reason many console players feel like BF3 is worse. You can feel the difference, even if you don't realize it. To conclude, most of BF3's issues are very deep-seated engine issues of a very technical nature. All DICE's games since Bad Company have had these issues... For the record, Black Ops is also a very poorly programmed game. In this way BF3 and BO are similar.

vault-boy
vault-boy

I still don't understand why people want to play a game in a terrain made up 100% out of 2 colors, dogsh*t brown and gunmetal gray, why you want to play a game where you have no health, a game where there is no creativity in weapons, plot or setting. Oh, ya and were the online consists purely of camping.

01706_123
01706_123

why cant we just be friends bf3 and mw3 are both good

ElJefeDeMedios
ElJefeDeMedios

@scout7 that's the best sniping I have read here in a long time - thanks for the laugh - could not agree more

DarkTempest7
DarkTempest7

Of course there are less people on the console. It's a game designed primarily for the PC, where the majority is.

scout7
scout7

There's no camping in Battlefield 3, just 'strategic positioning' -.- A lot, lot, lot, lot, lot of 'positioning'

rohanthedreamer
rohanthedreamer

just get skyrim and arkham city and let BF and MW rest in peace........

A_Belmont
A_Belmont

I enjoy the COD experience more, because I can just go in and play a Free for All or Team Death Match round and be very casual about it. I don't know enough folks around me with a ps3 to get a good local team going for Battlefield 3, and I honestly don't spend enough time playing multiplayer to really get deep into the mechanics of it. I like a little fast paced action every few days in short bursts. If I were to pick up Battlefield 3 today, I'd be awful at it. If I were to pick up COD I could hold my own in a deathmatch round. Yeah, that means I get a lot of 12 year old punks who think they rock the socks off the world, and once I even left a server after an abusive dad cussed out his own daughter for wanting a glass of water (seriously messed up). But, it's a format that best suits how deeply I want to engage in a game. I just wish some of the folks on COD wouldn't ever buy a headset..... =)

2pac_makaveli
2pac_makaveli

good i h8 most cod fanboys they are usually ppl who are only good at that mindless run and gun style of fps wen they r put into a huge map were u actually hafta think of multiple scenarios on how to win, having to use teamwork and how to flank the enemy or drive them back from a position w/o aid from kill streaks. they can not adapt and think a far superior game is a lessor one. stay with cod we dnt want u in bf.

g-man_III
g-man_III

no1 cares if it sold less. its still an amazing game and mw2.5 fans will miss out.

garcia_jx
garcia_jx

There is more to a game than destructible environments.

garcia_jx
garcia_jx

@ Kickable you are right, it does have vehicle gameplay but too bad half of the time you don't get to use them. The other half is spent on waiting For the vehicles to spawn.

kwanzudood
kwanzudood

I just don't understand why there are people who play shooter games but aren't automatically gravitating towards the one that has destructible environments. What is more fun, playing a map that has everything exactly the same layout every single time, or playing a game with destructible environments that constantly changes? I really thought the latter, but I guess people like the former.

SkamArtist
SkamArtist

@Edged_out I can't argue with what you experienced while playing BF3. My point was that BF3 creates an environment which rewards players for working as a team. CoD does not. You are correct, there are campers in BF3. The difference is these "campers" are there defending a target (you are rewarded for defending). In CoD campers are just waiting for people to run by to keep their K/D ratio high. BF3 is an objective base game, and that is where it excels. CoD gameplay is best suited for TDM and Free-For-All. I've been playing CoD games and BF games for years. Both games are good, they just offer something different.

strothers101
strothers101

Not that sales really matter but I think in four years time after modern warfare 13 has been released people will still play battlefield 3. As long as they keep that awesome DLC coming I know I will be.

Blitzkrieg129
Blitzkrieg129

All I've got to say is that it's their loss... I used to enjoy CoD gameplay, but I didn't feel the need to have a new game every year. I still pull out CoD4 every now and then, too.

777mikemc777
777mikemc777

BF3 and its now shrinking army of fan boys are the ones who chose to hype this game as a CoD killer now they are all using "it's a PC game" as a cop out while we watch it fail to hold up... Dice did what it set out to, get its big payday by over hyping its game congratulation to them they fooled me too but never again... also the online pass was smart because they knew so many Copies would end up back on gamestops shelves lost a lot of respect for Dice and EA on this one...

berzerk0912
berzerk0912

@wbt50-----------Thank you very much, and that's exactly what I'm saying too.

SkamArtist
SkamArtist

@Brumbek I see the point you are trying to make. However, I would argue that BF3 is still fun and entertaining IN SPITE OF a few technical issues. The problem that I have had with previous CoD titles is how boring and mundane they get after a while. I'm only speaking of previous CoD titles. MW3 may be different. Also, can you give me your examples of the technical imperfections of BF3? I agree that there are issues (with both games). I'm just curious to hear what you consider flaws.

Edged_out
Edged_out

@SkamArtist I've never seen any Team play in BF3, just players camping all over the place, so wheres this ( certain level of strategic game play ) you talk about ? I play MW2 with friends and we work as a team and just dont run around headless. In the end BF3 is a slow boring game that BF fanboy try to make it sound great, it had many fooled but so many preowned copies in shops already show they where fooled into think it was good.

Payasoplas
Payasoplas

@Coco_PR CoD MW3 a "real" Video Game? The official name of that game is "BABY'S FIRST WAR VIDEO GAME VOLUME 3"... What can you expect form a Gears of War fan?...

Kickable
Kickable

we're all used to technical launch issues. i say give BF3 a few months, these are all minor issues that can be patched. and it's not like everyone has those technical issues just like I couldn't play Black Ops for months because of stuttering, not everyone had the problem. that was on singleplayer too.

wbt50
wbt50

Being a huge Battlefield Veteran, Im happy MW3 does better, Sales wise. With out COD, All the 12 years old kids and hackers would move over to battlefield. It would be a disaster!

berzerk0912
berzerk0912

@VoicelessStone------Yes, you can camp in BF3 all day if you want to, but you won't be getting much kills due to the maps being so huge that you will be sitting there until your hair turns grey.

Brumbek
Brumbek

Most gamers have no issue with enjoying both the fast-run-and-gun of MW and the slower-large-scale-war of BF. I enjoy both. The real issue that nobody seems to be honest about is BF3 just isn't polished as MW2 and has so many technical issues and controls/movement foibles. So no direct comparison can be made since BF3 isn't in the same league, programming-wise. If BF3 was as technically flawless and polished as MW2, I'd really enjoy BF3. BF3 is a game we want to love, but the cold-hard reality of its issues slaps us in the face. As it is now, BF3 players have to force themselves to overlook all its issues. This is unfortunate. Contrast this with MW2, which invites us in and charms us with its polish and technical mastery. This is truly why MW2 is a mega-seller. If all of you reading this search your feelings, you'll know what I say is true (humor attempt).

VoicelessStone
VoicelessStone

@berzerk0912-Have you played BF3? That game is all about camping!