C$1 billion suit filed against Sony

Canadian law firm files massive class action against electronics giant over PlayStation Network outage and data breach.

Less than a week after the first PlayStation Network-related class action suit was filed against Sony, a second legal claim has been initiated. While the first didn't ask for a specific amount, the second is quite clear on how much it wants from Sony--at least 1 billion dollars in damages.

Canadian Natasha Maksimovic thinks Sony owes C$1 billion in damages to PSN users.

But those aren't US dollars, they're Canadian ones.

The second suit was announced on Monday by the Toronto law firm of McPhadden Samac Tuovi LLP, with Sony Canada, Sony USA, and "other Sony entities" being named as defendants. The firm has commenced the proposed class action on behalf of 21-year-old Mississauga, Ontario, resident Natasha Maksimovic. Described as a years-long PlayStation user, the lawsuit quotes Maksimovic as being outraged by the PSN outage and subsequent data breach.

"If you can't trust a huge multi-national corporation like Sony to protect your private information, who can you trust?" asked Maksimovic in a statement. "It appears to me that Sony focuses more on protecting its games than its PlayStation users."

The class action proposes that the C$1 billion ($1.04 billion) in damages be used to pay for "costs of credit monitoring services and fraud insurance coverage for two years." It was unclear if the amount would be applied only to the cost of the 1 million Canadian PSN users affected by the still-ongoing outage, or all the 78 million global PSN users whose information may have been exposed.

As of press time, Sony had not responded to requests for comment.

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aimmy79
aimmy79

leeching b*tch taking advantage of other people's suffering.

tisoyboy2
tisoyboy2

@GunGriffin First Gene Spafford is not an "FBI guy." He is just regarded as a cyber security expert. Second, in his testimony before the Congressional Subcommittee he said. "I have no information about what security they had in place." He goes on to admit his accusations are solely "based on news reports." His expertise without true knowledge of Sony's security features can hardly justify him as an expert.

RX-78MajiGundam
RX-78MajiGundam

bah. if sony goes bankrupt, the whole balance of competition would be screwed. who will stand up to companies like nintendo and microsoft?

raptures330
raptures330

Here come the vultures and leeches that will try and get a free ride. Here we go losers: Go to the bank, change the card. Done. Also, if you keep an eye on your finances anyway (like any normal non billionaire person) you should be able to spot things you didn't buy. @Chock-Black Most of the information "stolen" from PSN (as no evidence of CCs being stolen) people GIVE AWAY for free on Facebook an other social media sites. There are 500 Million users on Facebook alone.

GunGriffin
GunGriffin

Well you guys have no sense of the LAW do u? Regardless of PSN being free the CPA in all nations has the right do see these cases to the bitter end. Also that post aobut their servers being up to date was from Beyond3Ds fan forums! Thats not a good source of info that some fan PS3 site was saying it's lies. It's the word of fans vs the word of an FBI investigator who do U think the LAW will side with? the FBI guy of course. Also regardless they claimed they were unhackable, and on top of that loseing that much user data knowingly means they did not do all in their power to keep it secure meaning under the LAWs of the CPA they are in clear violation of user protection LAWs which are even stricter in the UK, and Canada then in the US. They have planty of ground to stand on. Ur useing a fanboy post to discredit a real FBI investigator. Not smart man.

rain_ishigawa
rain_ishigawa

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tisoyboy2
tisoyboy2

@awright00 First, that article you sent: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312333.html about the so-called expert saying the PS3 security was outdated was dis-credited. They were running Apache 2.2.17 which to date is the most recent STABLE one available. Second, the PSN being free (FREE MEANING NOT SOLD) is not included with the purchase of the PS3 but a marketing tool to promote PS3 sales. Sony reserved that right to charge for the PSN in the future if they saw fit to do so. Third, There is no evidence that credit card information was stolen. Nervous nannies will expect the worst in situations like this. Every financial institution has verified that there have been no credit card fraud activity linking back to the PSN breach. Furthermore, it is not illegal for someone to get your name and address without you giving it to them. It becomes illegal when THE PERSON WHO TOOK your name and address impersonates you for any kind of financial gain. That is why their suit has no grounds.

kennythomas26
kennythomas26

Oh yeah and a worst case senario this will be settled out of court and it won't be a billion it will be less than that.

kennythomas26
kennythomas26

I think that lawsuit night favor the people cause I up her in Toronto, Ontario that's about a 25 minute drive from Mississauga, but my point is are lawyer's up here in GTA (Greater Toronto Area) are some of the toughest in Canada and North America even possibly the world and I strongly think it go her way.

Chock-Block
Chock-Block

I just dont understand why people think losing your information is a joke. I'm going to guess that the majority of people commenting are under the age of 18 and don't understand how one bit of information leads to another. When you call your cable company whats one of the things they ask you? "Can you please verify the address?" Well guess what they have that now. They also can track where you get internet and look through websites that you have visited and look for things like amazon and use the passwords or info about your life to log into your account and look up payment information. This is not a joke i believe that Sony deserves this. But as a gamer they have so much to do to make up o its customers.

system_xn
system_xn

"If you can't trust a huge multi-national corporation like Sony to protect your private information, who can you trust?" "Trust"!? A corporation? Let me know when the "shrooms" wear off and you're back in reality with the rest of us. She's just as greedy as SONY.

wyan_
wyan_

One billion divided among seventy eight million amounts to less than $13. -among one million is still only $1000. This is pointless.

parkurtommo
parkurtommo

yeh!!!! take that Sony! learn! (I don't own a 360, you probably thought the opposite, I just hate how sony is dealing with this)

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

@awright00 PSN is Free....you paid 300-600 because of the hardware.....

CaptainHerlock
CaptainHerlock

@starla9 Sony won't go out of business for this. Does everyone honestly believe that they don't have things like litigation insurance? Furthermore, it seems that gamers believe they are the only ones who hire lawyers. I think what everyone needs to remember is that just because there's a lawsuit that doesn't mean the plaintiff with automatically win, or that the suit will even get to trial. The plaintiff has to proved that they were in some way harmed. That's more difficult to do that you'd think. Corporations get sued all the time. Gamers it seems have discovered the legal system, and litigation lawyers are exploiting them as their new "growth field". Big corporations with deep pocks + outraged gamers + lawyers = Easy money... for THE LAWYERS. Mark my words, these sharks want a settlement.

Shadowof66
Shadowof66

1 billion you serious is this one of those no win no fee lawyers? I'm guessing so in which case you'll get 10 dollars and they'll get the rest

DanBoiani
DanBoiani

Here's a thought Ms Maksimovic and Messrs McPhadden Samac Tuovi LLP ... find the culprits of the crime and sue them instead of the VICTIM of the theft, Sony. Ohh, what am I thinking....deep pockets rule. Shame on you Natasha, and shame on your Barristers and Solicitors.

starla9
starla9

So weird, I actually thought about someone suing Sony for $1 billion today, before seeing this article. Although Sony is at fault for their poor security etc. etc., the last thing I want is Sony bankrupt and out of business. All that does is punish every single Sony customer and leave them with their $5 sliver of the settlement money. I don't want money from Sony. I want this security breach to make Sony an improved corporation that changes the way it runs things. Because I love every generation of Playstation.

slysin
slysin

@Asemco You really don't get it. Some people buy games and dlc from Sony with their credit cards.Now those theifs have access to them. This can and most likely will lead to identities being stolen and credit cards being used fraudulently. It hurts everyone. The credit card companies pass it on to everybody else.

rick-garza
rick-garza

wow i didnt know you could become a instant billionaire from playing online games on psn!!!! we are riiiich now!

thundaro
thundaro

what a stupid thing to sue over, honestly and A huge waste of time and money for all involved seeing as there is no way she will win this

rohn13
rohn13

@dylansevans15 Your avatar is a great representation for canada. BTW, 6'3" 200 lbs isn't really considered fat kitty kat, or maybe another name for a feline might be more appropriate for a boy named dylan.

Seifer-fx
Seifer-fx

@BigAl519 Somebody cant take a joke! Relax fella, you need a rest, guy.

rohn13
rohn13

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Asemco
Asemco

I am sad that this girl is suing sony for this. Making Canada look greedy. >.>; Who gives a crap if our info got stolen? The amount of companies that already have our info from signing up to the MANY different sites or offers we all sign up to, I wouldn't be suprised if they knew my favourite food. I bet this girl has or had Facebook too... >.

Platini
Platini

I think it's much more than my name and email! It's my name, email, address, credit info and much more? It seems to me that Sony perused that code breaker to a significant extend and now that role has been reversed! We all pay for the consequences and it seems that Sony at last will pay it too.

obsequies
obsequies

I couldn't care less if a bunch of hackers have my name and email...this chick makes us canadians look like a bunch of spoiled kids

dylansevans15
dylansevans15

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rohn13
rohn13

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megakick
megakick

SONY has done a lot of damage. SONY changes policy, to stop this from happening. SONY threatens and taunt consumers. SONY lays off a couple hundred SOE employees. SONY PSN IS breached, SONY ONLINE ENTERTAINMENT is shut down. this gave whoever a perfect opportunity to do this and maybe get away with it.

MrGreenBeanz
MrGreenBeanz

@Eric_VA So what you're saying is that the 360 is going to get hacked, somehow, someway, in the future? Can you see the future? Cause it sounds to me like you know this is 100% going to happen and its not a "if" it's a "when". No doubt, absolutely positive, 100% sure it's going to happen huh? For some reason, that really annoys me that you KNOW for a fact its gonna happen.

badman11226
badman11226

IS it me or sony have being getting pimp slap lately. Hackers mess up their psn and sony network. Getting sued left and right. DAMN sucks to be sony. Since everybody suing i guess i join in too. Im going to sue sony for hhmmmmm. Dont worry i find something to sue them for.

awright00
awright00

@Goldeneyes11 It's true there's no evidence, but "possibly stolen but no evidence of it" vs. "definitely stolen" are materially pretty similar in terms of what people have to do. Of course psychologically they are very different.

Goldeneyes11
Goldeneyes11

People are overreacting. There is no evidence that credit card information was stolen, and with regard to your personal information being stolen, most of that is available in a phone book and through an online search anyway. The only thing they really got out of me other than that is the fact that I own a PS3 and that I have an e-mail address....I better sue Sony for $1 billion over that....yeah, right---please!!

EdibleFood
EdibleFood

Sony has been having the worst luck lately. For the past few months they have been dealing with whiny "entitled" hackers, law firms, the fbi, psn being down, unjustified negative press, etc I hope sony comes out of this stronger than ever, by the time e3 comes around i'm confident they will have regained any lost momentum.

DreamorDie
DreamorDie

@HaloPimp978 agreed, why they giving Sony so much trouble? I mean they have their hands full enough as it is, if they don't have any money left to fix it, then all our info and Sony is screwed as a company, so people should stop suing so Sony can get their act together and save our privacy and info

awright00
awright00

@tisoyboy2 No grounds to sue? http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312333.html Also a ridiculous argument: "PSN is free!": 1) PSN is NOT free, its cost is included in the $300-$600 paid for the PS3. Sony decided to make the PSN free in order to encourage more sales of PS3s and games bought through PSN -- they did it to make money, not out of the kindness of their hearts or something. 2) PSN's cost is irrelevant; people who entered in their credit card info in order to make a purchase through the service should be able to expect their data to be protected. If it is proven that Sony didn't even try to protect the data, then Sony is partially at fault.

awright00
awright00

ugh so many people pull out the "Sony is the innocent victim, why punish them while the hackers go free?" argument... 1) I sincerely hope the hackers are caught by the FBI or whoever -- a class action will have no effect on the criminal investigation. 2) The courts will decide whether Sony put a reasonable amount of protections around its customers' data. If they did, the courts should dismiss the case. If they determine that Sony didn't bother to even try protecting their customers' data, then the customers should be compensated. Mistakes made by corporations must be punished or else it encourages other corporations to make the same bad decisions -- or haven't we learned anything from the bank bailout garbage?

Delrothness
Delrothness

She claims that this money will be for every single use to have credit monitoring for two years but you know damn well she wants it for herself. Not to mention a billion dollars is nowhere near enough money to pay for that for 78 million people.

Delrothness
Delrothness

I knew it would only be a matter of time before some dick tried to take advantage of this situation to make some money. But for f*ck sake, 1 BILLION dollars?!?! This is without a doubt the greediest scumbag I've ever seen and I'm more than sure it'll be dismissed. Yeah the situation is bad knowing that all 78 million users' personal information was stolen and all but it's not like Sony gave it away willingly. A THIEF basically broke into Sony's house and started stealing stuff. Again I hope, and am sure this will get dismissed, I mean why does this one person deserve to get money over the rest of us? Lawyers around the world have been drooling uncontrollably since the beginning of this fiasco. Sony is working around the clock to resolve the matter and have stated that they're working on some sort of reimbursement. That's good enough for me and it should be good enough for the rest of the PSN community.

SuprSaiyanRockr
SuprSaiyanRockr

Yeah good luck with that pal :P Btw, that's US$1,037,071,423.87... so, yeah... probably won't need that much for damages.

akiwak
akiwak

Actually the cost for all 78 million users to have credit monitoring for 2 years is roughly 24, 317,280,000 billion. I hope both lawsuits get dismissed, Sony already has many other things on its plate. Besides, Sony has already notified customers, is currently working on the issue and offered more services.

theWanderer80
theWanderer80

hell yeah you crazy b!tch get them for all they're worth! HAHAHAHAHA I hope whoever's married to this nutbag got a prenup

ejay_kain
ejay_kain

21 year old Canadian needs C$1 billion to cover costs for insurance and credit monitoring services???? Wow! What is the insurance for anyway, should not the insurance pay out for the damages??? And what kind of credit card does she have that has such high costs, only for services???...... Again wow.

BaronSector
BaronSector

One from Alabama and one from Canada... Are they serious?

quicksilver_03
quicksilver_03

LOL...person suing Sony $1 Billion Canadian Dollar lawsuit? That's really an idiotically stupid lawsuit...This person will get death threats or will be a dead man for sure by people's hatred...especially to the Sony community and to the users itself.

parrot_of_adun
parrot_of_adun

@cotc YOU made an argument against my post. I assumed you wouldn't post unless you cared. [QUOTE="cotc"][/QUOTE]And there's my proof you know nothing of either language. No Russian name could be transliterated into English as Maksimovi. Period. I'm done arguing. Your user icon there is reason enough to suspect your aim is something outside of reasonable discourse. Not to mention the actual content of your posts...

smellyfeet
smellyfeet

A billion $ huh? LOL. Goes to show there's no limit to stupidity