Bungie: "We still have risks to take"

Destiny developer says the company is "young and spry" in response to a fan asking if AAA games can be innovative.

Can a AAA game, like Destiny, be truly innovative? That's the question one Bungie fan posed to the developer recently. The Bellevue, Washington studio responded by listing the ways it is pushing the envelope instead of resting on its laurels.

"You make us sound like an old, Favorite Uncle who can barely touch his toes anymore. Bungie is young and spry--barely into our twenties," Bungie wrote as part of its latest Mail Sack feature. "We still have risks to take. Anyone who spends more time thinking about how things could be than how things are can innovate [Emphasis original]."

"Anyone who throws out their old way of doing things can innovate," the company added. "Anyone who thinks they can float above the high watermark can innovate. Anyone with a refrigerator filled with energy drinks can innovate."

Bungie also said its "massive infusion of new blood" is helping the company expand and try new things. One of Bungie's new hires is Danny Bulla, who worked on Red Dead Redemption at Rockstar Games as a senior game designer. Bulla is currently working on Destiny's sandbox elements.

"Nothing makes an old dog learn new tricks faster than an eager puppy who tries to claim the ball," Bungie said.

Published by Call of Duty company Activision, Destiny launches in 2014 for current- and next-generation consoles, but not PC, Wii U, or portables. Activision Publishing has high hopes for the game, saying last week that Destiny is expected to become the company's third billion-dollar franchise, joining Skylanders and Call of Duty.

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AventusAretino
AventusAretino

Very interested to see, play and follow this game throughout it's 10 year life. When I first learned that the game was supposed to be a 10 year project I was didn't know how to react but when I realized it was Bungie I was pumped. I'd be shocked if this game wasn't a success 

RayIsVisible
RayIsVisible

Hello. I am from Russia. I have played into Myth 2 and it was great! Unfortenatelly - my gaming skills at the moment was pretty poor, so i did not go into deep missions, into deep story.

Also, i liked Halo 4 (don't feel free to throw into me your stones), i bought it into my piracy-Xbox 360 Arcade relision and this game just hecking awesome (not f***ng, notice).

Feel free to answer into my topic please. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29434430/truly-inspired-journey-through-metro-last-night.-my-story

Hurvl
Hurvl

Image caption: "The last thing you'll ever see is me striking this awesome pose!"

tightwad34
tightwad34

So you are willing to take risks and innovate, when everyone stops doing this then I will say the industry is for sure going down the tubes. Unlike all the talking heads who say it's happening now. Sure they know more than I do, but the last time I checked video games are more popular now than they have ever been. Or they will go the way of Hollywood and make everything predictable and cater to the sheep.

Vodoo
Vodoo

Third BILLION dollar franchise. I feel sick.

VastGameMaster
VastGameMaster

"Bulla is currently working on Destiny's sandbox elements", there's another one to add to the list on why you should buy Destiny gamers.

Redsyrup
Redsyrup

Other then the spider tank much of the art looks generic.

Forefront-049
Forefront-049

"We can't promise true innovation, but we CAN promise free xp for your Destiny character after you purchase a 2 liter bottle of Mountain Dew." -Bungie

Trance_Circa
Trance_Circa

One of the very few games that is console exclusive and every pc gamer bitches up a storm about it.

Then of course says it will be terrible to make themselves feel better about not being able to play it.

maghdie
maghdie

Just get done with the game and release some clips for us to watch in the mean time... Too much interviews from Bungie nowadays

nurnberg
nurnberg

Destiny looks pretty generic.

Darkhol0w
Darkhol0w

*whispers* Hey Bungie, I know you want to grab all the profits from the next gen, but make sure you don't forget the PC crowd. Especially since this is a MMO

Fitcherman
Fitcherman

Bungie doesn't need to innovate.  They created some of the best games ever with the Halo series.  All they have to do is bring back more of that classic multiplayer competitive feel.

wwlettsome
wwlettsome

What's he going to say?

"Nope, we can't innovate. Too much risk in spending $100 million on a flop?"

Jeez, ask the poor guy something he can actually answer.

anybodykilla15
anybodykilla15

risks? this game looked interesting in the cgi trailers, but that e3 gameplay, really sold me on this game being terrible, of all the games to use as a template, they chose borderlands.........ughhh halo reach sucked anyways

Hellhound30x
Hellhound30x

No matter what Bungie has my support day one! They've never done me wrong! I'm expecting great things!

Ultramarinus
Ultramarinus

I used to love Bungie till MS turned them into a Halo refabricator, yet I still had hope when they bought themselves back until Destiny reveal and Activision deal. Still cannot believe the company that made Myth series and Oni turned into this.

Quanicus
Quanicus

I think all Bungie will innovate is menu options, and the ease of connecting with friends.  Gameplay, I don't think it will WOW me. Especially being a 30 yr old man, my son may think it's innovative.

JimmyJumpy
JimmyJumpy

Anyone with a fridge filled with energy drinks doesn't know what those cans hold and isn't trendy but an idiot.

genjuroT
genjuroT

"Nothing makes an old dog learn new tricks faster than an eager puppy who tries to claim the ball," Bungie said. 

I don't think they know the right saying and I don't consider this game a "risk" by any means; 

“We are absolutely doing things that would be familiar if you’ve played any kind of open-world game. I mean… ‘Far Cry,’ even. We would be idiots if we didn’t look at an awesome game like ‘Borderlands’ and ask, ‘What are they doing well and how can we try to hit that same ball?’ I have never played a game where I have such a great attachment to my gun as I do in ‘Borderlands.’” -creative lead Joe Staten


max-hit
max-hit

Competitive FPS with controller = Me not playing it. They speak of risks while the market they're going for is the most demanding one among the majority of so called "gamers".

steelmouth
steelmouth

I don't get all this talk about innovation as if its the best thing ever since steelmouth, all I want is great game that's well made with a great story that I can get immersed in.

Immersion in a game world that's all I want

andrewiresrfc
andrewiresrfc

I'm still not convinced on Destiny . I just don't see it being as big a success as the other FPS on the market. Destiny might end up being a better game than its contemporaries , but it doesn't strike me as having that ''pick up and play'' simplicity . 

demondogx
demondogx

Well then what will this innovation be ? because so far it just seems like halo goes MMO, and saying you arent an MMO while you clearly are does not make you innovative, it just makes you be in denial towards logic.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

Not for portables, except everyone who has a Vita and uses remote play. Man I cannot wait to try Destiny out on remote play. Elder Scrolls Online as well OMG it will be epic!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, Sony if you screw up the remote play features I am going to be so god damn angry!

Don_Mattrick
Don_Mattrick

Dayum those whinny PC gamers.

Get a console god dammit, you spend more than 15k on your PC and can't afford a console?

Hurvl
Hurvl

@Vodoo The expectation of it making a billion dollars before it's even released is sick, but if it's good enough, then why not? Good games should be successful, even though there are lots of examples where less-than-good games are very successful.

Tahir_Ahmad
Tahir_Ahmad

@Trance_Circa  

I have seen many console gamers who start to bitch around as soon as they see some ambitious mods on PC, I have also seen them bitching for games like Diablo 3 and The Witcher then what's the problem if some PC gamers ask for a game that is console exclusive at the moment ?

The simple fact is anything which you cannot get sounds very interesting or attractive so you start asking for it, it's a common thing between both PC and console gamers, it's more visible on PC because more games are announced as console exclusives in the start.

I don't understand that if a PC gamer is asking for it then how does it affect you ? get over with it dude, it's the same old shitty way of starting a flaming war, I am tired of people always complaining about what others have to say instead of minding their own business.

Elann2008
Elann2008

@Trance_Circa 

I haven't read nor do I know any PC gamer that has bitched religiously about Destiny not being on the PC.  

If anything, most PC gamers don't care for it and see it as a Borderlands clone, which may not be a bad thing.  Although, personally, I think Destiny is going to be a lot better than Borderlands in many ways.  I think Borderlands 2 was average.

PC gamer here, and I'll be picking up a PS4 for Sony and console exclusives.  I don't get the fanboy hate, and you're not making it any better.

I think it's better you keep stupid comments to yourself.

Hurvl
Hurvl

@nurnberg That pose in the image that is included with almost every Destiny article, looks very generic.

MVan86
MVan86

@nurnberg By what logic? That there are various sci-fi franchises out there?

tommynj
tommynj

@Darkhol0w Not an mmo but thanks for playing! It only borrows some mmo elements.

Leivve
Leivve

@Darkhol0w "It's not a mmo it's a fps set in a social shared world." - Bungie

If anyone can deduce how it's different I would be very thankful.

Hurvl
Hurvl

@Quanicus "Bungie is young and spry--barely into our twenties" Lol, so you're "older" than Bungie then? I'm 28, but I feel like I'm also barely into my twenties. I can't decide if that has anything to do with a lack of maturity or anything else, though.

Hurvl
Hurvl

@steelmouth I agree, not innovating isn't necessarily bad. Old features are not old hat if the hat fits. Innovation isn't inherently good, it's just something that's rarely ever been done before, like DLC, microtransactions and other stuff that were completely new and *innovative* business models some years ago.

Trance_Circa
Trance_Circa

@andrewiresrfc If you like that simple "pick up and play" game I think call of duty ghost is coming out soon.  Otherwise you can try a game with some story and depth to it like Destiny possibly.

Hurvl
Hurvl

@Don_Mattrick If you're on a tight budget, you can probably get one for like 500 dollars. Especially in the US where things are cheaper. I bought a laptop 2 years ago for school work in Sweden which cost a bit less than 1000 dollars, with everything included, like a mouse and MS Office. It has served me well and I won't need to buy another one for 3 years. Yeah, even if I didn't have a massive backlog, I would be still be able to keep it for 5 years without feeling left behind.

theend3r
theend3r

@Don_Mattrick 15k vietnamese dongs maybe. My PC can run games better than consoles, I can choose which controllers to use and if I were to buy all those games on a console it'd far more expensive. 

To the point why would anyone want to play an FPS with a controller? Maybe you are so good at FPS that you need a handicap to enjoy the game but I am not.

bankai_456
bankai_456

@Don_Mattrick not everyone earns million of $$$ like you don. i am happy with my $700 pc. 

ps. cannot play fps's with a controller.

mezati4
mezati4

@Don_Mattrick GO FUCK YOUR SELF I SPEND SO MUCH ON MY FUCKING PC AND I WANT GAMES ON IT

Trance_Circa
Trance_Circa

@Elann2008 @Trance_Circa I was referring to the comments in this page genius. There are multiple comments complaining about not being on the PC. Please read through the messages next time.

andrewiresrfc
andrewiresrfc

 @Trance_Circa @andrewiresrfc Journey, The Last of Us , The Walking Dead (telltale) Dragon Age 1,2 ;  there typical of games played by COD fanboys yes? In the future try and discuss people opinions without being an ass about it . 

Hurvl
Hurvl

@Trance_Circa @andrewiresrfc Do we know how much story and depth it actually has before it's even released? It seems interesting, but I'll hold my judgment on it until it's out. 

Also, the "then you must like CoD" reply is as generic as CoD has ever been. Please, far from everyone who has anything even remotely bad to say about Destiny is a CoD fan. By that logic you must be an ignorant and arrogant fan.

oyvs
oyvs

@theend3r @Don_Mattrick @mezati4 The only people who play games on these overpriced PC's are sweaty loosers,who cant get a gf and act out virtual fights with the kids that bullied them at school. ahaha 

Don_Mattrick
Don_Mattrick

@theend3r @Don_Mattrick So using a controller is handicap?...wow.

I am a PC gamer as well, i spent more than 2000 on it, i do prefer key+mouse, but that doesn't mean i'm going to whine about such a silly thing.

Is it going to harm you using a controller?.


Hurvl
Hurvl

@Trance_Circa @Elann2008 "Please read through the messages". Hah, as if reading games articles didn't take enough time already, we're also supposed to read every comment or at least most of them. There are usually hundreds of them after only a few hours, thousands of them if it's about Xbox/Playstation. I only need to read through 30 or so to know that it's a waste of time reading through the rest. Your advice is more suited to forum threads, unless they're 30 pages.

fume0101
fume0101

@Trance_Circa @Elann2008 First of all...No. I am a PC gamer primarily. However, I also love the consoles. Destiny, to me, looks to be the biggest thing to come our way in a long time, and I cannot wait to play it. I wish it would be available for PC, but I won't hate on the game itself just because it isn't.

I am now going to have to shell out for a next gen console just to get to play Destiny. I am going the PS4 route because, well...so many reasons that I won't bother going into. Destiny will be worth it to me. Even though I'm a PC gamer.

That said...Release the damn game on PC too guys, seriously.

Elann2008
Elann2008

@Trance_Circa

I edited my post by adding to it.  

Why would I read through all the posts?  So I can join in the fanboy rage on Gamespot?

No thanks.  I think it's better to discuss the topic than give into the idiocracy. 

Don_Mattrick
Don_Mattrick

@theend3r Well sir, if you haven't  considered this, there is sensitivity for turning fast, and what's wrong with the buttons?, they are perfectly fine, everything i need is there.

And also, everyone else on the  console use a controller, so it would be a fair  fight, and everyone will have the same level of difficulty.

And also, you might have this prob 'cause you don't use a controller, but millions upon millions who game on consoles don't have that prob.

I myself as a PC and console gamer, don't have a problem whatsoever.

theend3r
theend3r

@Don_Mattrick @theend3r It is handicap. You can't rotate that fast and if you could you couldn't aim properly (which you can't anyway). Then the lack of buttons, you can hotkey pretty much anything on a keyboard but hardly on a controller.