Bungie: We're not favoring PlayStation over Xbox for Destiny

"Who's ignoring you?" Bungie community manager says to a fan suggested the studio was favoring Sony over Microsoft.

In Bungie's latest weekly update blog post, the Destiny developer denied a claim that it is favoring PlayStation over Xbox. A fan asked, "Will you guys give a nod to your Xbox fan base or just keep ignoring them?"

Bungie community manager David Dague responded, "Who's ignoring you? We're right here; making a game we hope you'll love. We're listening to your questions, and answering the ones we can. If you're a gamer who wants to play a Bungie game, you're very much on our mind-- every day."

It's not terribly surprising that the fan reached that conclusion. After all, Destiny was showcased at Sony's PlayStation 4 announcement event in February 2013 and then again at Sony's E3 media briefing later that year. Sony even teamed up with Bungie for a new PS4 commercial, and the beta for Destiny will begin this summer first on PlayStation 3 and PS4.

This is a dramatic about-face for Bungie, which is perhaps best known as a longtime wholly owned Microsoft studio, made famous for its Halo games that were released exclusively on PC and Xbox consoles. The studio would later regain its independence and sign a 10-year publishing arrangement with Call of Duty company Activision Publishing for their next major franchise, Destiny. It is Bungie's first multiplatform game in a decade.

We recently visited Bungie's offices and will have much more on Destiny later today. Destiny launches September 9 for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, and PS4.

Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and you can follow him on Twitter @EddieMakuch
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RobDev
RobDev

xbox fans must have forgotten about the many games MS paid for timed exclusivity. 

zycrez
zycrez

Well, Sony is the best choice for this one, with Xbox entertainment studios shutdown and the 18,000 person layoff, along with ps4's double in sales compared to Xbox even when the price lowered shows that Ps4 is the dominant audience for this release. and also Sony probably wrote them a nice check from there profits. This is not a bias comment between the two consoles, this is simply an analysis of which of the two companies looks more promising then the other. As much as i enjoy Xbox exclusives such as fable and a few other games, i believe Sony to have the upperhand as a foundation for Bungies' destiny.

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

Maybe Sony offered them a deal they couldn't refuse.

Swinny14
Swinny14

I understand why Xbots are mad, I would be if for example Metal Gear Solid V was getting the special treatment on XB1, but this is ironic in a way, you guys have to wait 12 months to get the PS Exclusive DLC, I think that's a month for every COD Early Access DLC you've gotten, right? lol That was a joke :-)

delta5931
delta5931

Aside from the fact PS4 players get beta access for one week, while Xbox players get it for about 3-2 days.

creepyburrito
creepyburrito

I don't understand Xbox fanboys whining and not being satisfied for whatever reason. This is coming from someone that has an xbox too. I just like the PS4 and Sony better right now, they market themselves better. Treat their customers better. Microsoft forced me to make a switch. Consoles get their quirks a good deal of the time. Sony is notorious for that anyway, a little extra bang. Like for example, when assassins creed 3 came out with ps3 you got a copy of revelations as well. On Xbox you just got the game itself. Xbox is getting Destiny. If anyone is to blame for them not wanting to showcase as much on the xbox side, its microsoft. It is pretty much common knowledge that they are still struggling to gain face after their blunders. Besides it makes sense to give more nods to the side that is selling more consoles from a business standpoint anyway. You want your game to sell, and irregardless I'm sure it will. People should just game and be happy already 

iammcgruber
iammcgruber

We are not favoring, just giving them more bang for the buck....okay......

themc_7
themc_7

umm okay, where's my Xbox One beta access? Oh I get to try it out for $60 at launch in September? Cool, thanks.

Csdabest89
Csdabest89

Its definitely favoring. You almost forget that Destiny is coming to MS. Bungie playing a VERY VERY Dangerous game right now with their old dedicated fanbase and not showing anytype of love. Im going to say this now PS3 and PS4 will not be able to support this game alone financially for their investment

bourne714
bourne714

"We're not favoring PlayStation over Xbox for Destiny, we just hang around them more because they wrote us a big fat check.  Don't hate."

Keitha313
Keitha313

Bungie cheating on Xbots :(

much upset

redskinStu
redskinStu

really? Gamespot is now publishing troll stuff as stories.

saujiro
saujiro

Microsoft does this all the time with its BS CoD dlc 1st on xbox and everything is ok, Sony gets 1st round spoils this time and suddenly is the end of the world?  wtf?

Jkouw
Jkouw

 "If you're a gamer who wants to play a Bungie game, you're very much on our mind-- every day."


Unless you're a PC gamer apparently

kingraven24
kingraven24

Don't blame the fan for wanting some clarification on Xbox's importance to Bungie.  I know they're making it multiplatform but they've offered zero promotion toward the Xbox brand.  It could be Sony paying them off to keep the PS4 logo on the game, but Bungie is foolish to allow themselves to be wholly pushed to promoting on that platform.  They'll get their money like Call of Duty always does.  It is most odd because of the extremely tight relationship Bungie and Microsoft Studios held for about a decade to see them promoting a different platform first.  Sony's claim over the game simply starts and ends at DLC first landing on the PlayStation platforms, much like Microsoft's deal with Activision for Call of Duty DLC first on Xbox.

nhowell14
nhowell14

how's it bungie's fault that MS fu**d up their latest xbox console??? Of course the PS4 is going to get more attention, it's a better piece of hardware.

Jas0n94
Jas0n94

 Correction:

"If you're not a PC gamer who wants to play a Bungie game, you're very much on our mind — every day."

j_kizi
j_kizi

It's coming out for both consoles. Its just marketing, no big deal. It's not as if they are making it unplayable on Xbox or something. I'm certain the exclusive content is just timed, almost everything exclusive these days is. Just get it for the console you prefer. Both companies do it, Assassin's Creed is mostly advertised for PS, Call of Duty is mostly advertised for Xbox, doesn't really mean anything. Well at least I can speak for myself. I'm sure they know they have the Xbox community in the bag, they probably just want to get the attention of the Playstation owners that never played the Halo series. Now the PC community, they should be saying consoles are being favored.

steelmouth
steelmouth

Perception matters more than reality and so far its looks like Bungie is totally ignoring the Xbox fan base at this rate I wish they can just come out clean and say Destiny is a PS exclusive and they just milking the Xbox for the few millions they can make off it

eternal_napalm
eternal_napalm

From the given quote, how does that deny favoritism? It doesn't. They acknowledge it's coming to X1, but nothing to infer they aren't playing favorites. Because they are. Sony and Bungie are partners and PS4 is getting exclusive content. This article smells of spin.

AtlasTheStrong
AtlasTheStrong

Fan-boys on both sides calm down, the only reason you see a PlayStation "lead of focus" is for the fact that their are more owners of Sony consoles. Only a 1 million lead on last gen and 2 on next. At the end of the day it's coming out for both sides the same day also they are a business first and you have to go with what will make you more money. Especially since this is a "MMO" in a sense.

kahnseal
kahnseal

hey ponies, aren't yall still waiting on greatness to arrive? at least ms been coming clean about everything they doing unlike sony. 1080i upscaled to 1080p. cpu not as powerful as they say. only thing ps4 has over xbox one is the gpu. what real new exclusive ip do sony have? they promised 100 games and what happened over 80% of them are indies, 18% multiplats 2% exclusives that are remakes. lol

stevles
stevles

True that, Sony also has every upcoming exclusive I'm after.

RobDev
RobDev

@themc_7 beta access was available for the xbox one, for pre-orders and then it was open. you missed it, hardly their fault.

RobDev
RobDev

@Csdabest89 xbox fans won't get it because it's being promoted more by playstation? really? not a chance.

delta5931
delta5931

@saujiro Well... Nobody really wants CoD DLC first. I bet they'd rather have Destiny.

VersaType
VersaType

@kingraven24  Yeah multiply plat games need to stop this bs with promoting one version of the game. It;s stupid. Bungie should be treating both the xbox and play stations platforms equally. Instea they promote the ps4 and ps3 versions and have better incentives to get those versions.

chippiez
chippiez

@nhowell14  I didn't know you were an experienced hardware architect qualified to make the assessment that MS "fu**ed up their latest xbox console".  Do you have any credentials to back up that statement sir?  Any facts?  Anything concrete?  Because I will take any argument you can craft, spin it around on it's head and give you a cited, credible retort, point-for-point, on just how wrong your hive-mind marketing lemming mindset is.  Of course, what I suspect you'd come up with is something like "ehhrrmagerrdd!!!  1152 'Shader Units'!  ERHMAGEEERRRDD  GDDDDDDDR5!.  All of this without even understanding thing one about how memory resident items are stored and retrieve in either system, and without knowing how a 'Shader Unit' works, much less any other item on either console's mainboard.  


The PlayStation 4 was, is and will be, a turbocharged PS3.  Period.  It lacks bus bandwidth to be anything but (making the wonderful ERMAGERRRDD GDDDDDDR6000 pointless)


Xbox One has been treated as a turbocharged Xbox 360 by Third parties, partly because of immature tools, partly because developers are people and not magical beings and have to overcome the learning curve of new pipeline paradigms.  You'll find, sooner and later, that the X1 can do with it's hardware and software, things that would bring the PS4 grinding to an abysmal, studdering halt.  

Kreten1
Kreten1

@nhowell14  and how did they mess up? By putting a laptop cooling fan in it or by gambling of having only 4GB of GDDR5 of which only 2 would be for games or just getting off the shelf stuff? Wait for new SDK n see! At least this fan didn't start a petition like you sony fans did for Final Fantasy with thousands of signatures lol

ritchie007nl
ritchie007nl

@steelmouth  Well microsoft doesn't care about their own fanbase. So its up to par with bungie on that.

djlobb01
djlobb01

@AtlasTheStrong
lol that's not the case. It is very well known that companies take cash incentives to favor one console over the other.
in this particular instance, Sony have paid Activision (not Bungie) very well indeed.

bethof
bethof

@kahnseal  Sorry about your lack of knowledge. KZ:SF MP isn't running 1080i, it's running 1080p. Internally, it uses a clever and actually quite impressive technique to scale it up from 960x1080p. It renders every other line of pixels, and the rest are predicted based on the the previously rendered frame. That way, it can actually output 1920x1080 with less stress put on the system. It's so good, it took people months to realize that it wasn't actually running 1920x1080 with AA turned off or something. And it still managed to look better than anything on "the One".


I agree, though, that Guerilla could have been upfront about it. On the other hand, maybe they wanted to see how long it would take for people to notice.


And you know, Microsoft fooled a whole lot of dumb people into thinking the cloud can actually do anything meaningful for the consoles performance. "It'll be like having 3-4 Xboxes".


As to what real new exclusive IPs Sony have; What the fuck does MS have? Titanfall? That I can play on my computer? Please. Looks like the most exciting thing right now is a fucking Halo 2 remake.

sublimek1
sublimek1

@kahnseal  Wasn't it last year they were hyped up for their Azure servers saying the power of the cloud is going to be the next big thing. Noticed how quick people stopped talking about that and also a year later Microsoft is trying to lure people in Japan with that smoke and mirror gimmick.


You should know 1080i to up scaled is bad because your stretching it out. Better texture on a 720p console...really? If that was the case thats like me saying a 1080i tv smokes a 4k UHD

sublimek1
sublimek1

@kahnseal  80 percent of that? Really man I thought swiss cheese had a lot of holes in them.

themc_7
themc_7

@RobDev @themc_7 lol thanks tips. Your comment is a little late. See how I posted that comment in June. I've since been given 9 beta codes, and played Destiny. Xbox players got the beta for 4 days, Playstation go it for like 12 days.

atavax311
atavax311

@VersaType @kingraven24 They do it because they are paid a lot of money by Sony and Microsoft to do it. Don't like it? Sell your console and get a PC; only platform that doesn't pay for exclusive content or early releases.

saujiro
saujiro

@chippiez

Same thing was said about the PS3 (the last paragraph) and in the end 3rd parties opted for just simple ports instead of optimizing games for the PS3, maybe this time xbox will be the one getting the "copy & paste" ports.

bethof
bethof

@Kreten1 @nhowell14  They messed up by making a weaker console with more overhead, by not gambling on GDDR5, and by not using off the shelf parts. By chosing not to gamble on GDDR5, they put Sony at an advantage right away. They then proceeded to gimp their GPU by jamming some ESRAM on there (ironically, to compensate for the slower RAM). Due to costs, however, they weren't able to put enough ESRAM on there to really make a difference, so they ended up making their console harder to develop for without providing any real benefits for that extra efforrt, in addition to making it weaker. Sure, a new SDK might help make utilizing the ESRAM less painstaking, but it won't change the fact that the PS4 is a significantly more powerful piece of hardware.


They also messed up by never actually building up a strong, capable line-up of first party developers that can deliver quality exclusives that give people a reason to buy the console. Instead they rely mostly on paying third parties to develop games for them and handing off what few exclusives they have to shit developers, thinking name recognition alone will be enough to keep people coming back. Tell me, when was the last time an Xbox exclusive garnered unanimous praise from gamers and reviewers alike? Like, real critical acclaim and stuff? And how often does this happen on average?


Untill DX12 is released, bringing no actual improvements to performance, I guess the warriors will continue fooling themselves into thinking some new software will make up for the weak hardware, and that their console could totally outperform the competition.

themc_7
themc_7

@ritchie007nl @steelmouth how not? The MS fanbase completely revolutionized the XB1. And they continue to take the community's feedback when updating the console. 

creepyburrito
creepyburrito

@atavax311 Why would they wanna join the pirates and hurt the industry? I don't think that would solve a thing. 

bethof
bethof

@VersaType @bethof @Kreten1 @nhowell14  Sony had dominated the generation before it, and launched their 6th gen console first. They had a two year head start over the Xbox in Europe and Japan, and a 18 month head start in the US. They also had shit like timed exclusivity on the immensely popular GTA-series. Everyone knew the PlayStation-brand, Xbox was a new player, and Nintendo fell on their face with their dumb purple box (continuing their trend from the generation before).


Microsoft, on the other hand, did not dominate last gen. Yes, they had a headstart, and managed to hold on to the lead for a while. But Sony got their shit together, and Microsoft failed to capitalize on their lead. There are no up to date numbers, but they both passed 80 million WW sales within a couple of weeks of each other, so I'm guessing the PS3 has probably outsold the 360 at this point.


What I'm saying is, the two situations aren't even remotely comparable.

VersaType
VersaType

@bethof @Kreten1 @nhowell14  Why the hell do specs matter all of a sudden. Neither consoles is that powerful and both are very similar. PS2 should obviously have made my point years ago but I see that for some reason it hasn't. Arguably the best console of it's was farther behind the original xbox than the xbox one is behind the ps4, and yet it dominated the xbox and had a much better library overall.

hermitkiller
hermitkiller

@creepyburrito @atavax311 Those hermits don't realise that they're killing this 

gaming industry. Torrents & emulators, right next to cancer & aids in my book.

creepyburrito
creepyburrito

@hermitkiller @creepyburrito @atavax311 That's more or less the way I see it too. I have friends and acquaintances who game on the comp. A good sum will pirate things on and off on account that "It might be a bad game so there is nothing wrong with stealing it" It gets on my nerves to be honest. Instead of trying to implement DRM and the like on their paying customers perhaps companies should wise up (looking at you Microsoft) and weed out those on PC that are truly being parasites on the industry. There are some that feel just like a good bit of console gamers, that its all wrong and not right.