Bungie Says It Loves Xbox and PlayStation Fans Equally

“Loving a good game and the hard-working developers who create it is not a console exclusive.”

Most Bungie fans got to know the developer while it was working for Microsoft on the Halo series, which helped define Xbox in the last two console generations. Some of these fans, which stuck with Microsoft and Xbox One, are upset that Bungie has aligned itself with Sony and the PlayStation 4 for its upcoming sci-fi shooter Destiny. PS4 and PS3 owners already got a chance to play an alpha of the game, the beta will hit PlayStation consoles first, and Destiny will also have PlayStation-exclusive content.

In a recent post to Bungie’s official website, Community Manager David Dague explained that despite its new relationship with Sony, Bungie doesn’t “hate” its Xbox fans, as one fan suggested in a question.

“Loving a good game and the hard-working developers who create it is not a console exclusive,” Dague said. “Bungie has embraced many different platforms in our storied history. We have a hard time sitting still. Our goal has been to create amazing worlds and fill them with as many passionate people as possible. What we would tell you is that, if you want to explore the world of Destiny, it was built with you in mind. We make games here at Bungie. We love the people who play them equally.”

And as Head of Xbox Phil Spencer recently made clear, there’s no bad blood between Microsoft and Bungie.

Destiny launches September 9 for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4. A beta begins July 17 for PlayStation consoles, before coming to Xbox later in the month. To find out what version of the game you want to pick up, be sure to read about Destiny’s different special editions.

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Discussion

478 comments
Tranula
Tranula

HAHAHAHA! This article!

wowwow27
wowwow27

microsoft needs to cut the os on their box, and drop the price about 100 bucks lower then the ps4.

TheCloverr
TheCloverr

I like how nobody ever mentions that it's TIMED-EXCLUSIVE content. I know better, but it's still deceptive to others. Sony really made it sound like it was /only/ on playstation, pretty sure they even used those exact words. As an xbox user I'm not mad over their partnership, I'm just stoked to play Destiny. I adore Bungie and back their choices. It's just hard to respect Sony when they try to mislead people like that.

andystephenson
andystephenson

People know MS and Bungie didnt part on good terms don't they? Of course they don't love them the same! Haha.. MS is like the adopted less loved member of the console family

imajinn
imajinn

Lol Bungie can say that all day. Actions speak louder than words.... but I get they don't want to lose money from either end.

bdrtfm
bdrtfm

As a business owner, I can say that one thing still holds true in doing business. The customer is ALWAYS right. However, as far as gaming is concerned, that has somehow been thrown out the window.  I have never seen an industry where companies are so indifferent to their customers.


Does Bungie owe me anything for past purchased? No. I got what I paid for. However, as a business, if they expect me to spend my hard earned cash on their future product, they better be willing to bend over backwards to procure my business. That's how a business is supposed to work. You are a producer. I am a consumer. It is up to you to convince me that your product is worth my money. Giving incentives to one group of people and not another is the absolute biggest faux pas you can do as a business. 


If any other business tried this - a car dealership or electronics store such as I own - heck even a corner store - they would be bankrupt in a month. So, why as gamers are you people willing to put up with this sort of thing? I demand more for my money. If you had any common sense at all, so would you.

themc_7
themc_7

I guess that's why PS players get the beta for 2 weeks and Xbox players get it for 4 days. Yeah totally fair.

deathwish026
deathwish026

people do realise its not bungie pulling the strings for dlc exclusivity... its activision ?

vrajitorugaoz
vrajitorugaoz

And since no PC version, i guess they HATE PC fans??

BFKZ
BFKZ

Funny how if you like something, then you must HATE the other thing that falls into the same category, because if you don't, your fanboy ego will be without purpose, and we just can't have that, can we? the competition between companies benefits us and affects our gaming experience, but it does not depend on us,  Bunjie might not care about PC, doesn't mean they hate it!...jeez. Why would they release any of their games on PC when you benefit them by purchasing a console for their games?

bdrtfm
bdrtfm

If I could only afford one console and bought the Xbox One, I'd be a little upset with Bungie as well. Heck, I own both and I'm still a bit miffed.  It's bad enough they get the Alpha. Then they get longer Beta time. Now, they get exclusive content at launch and they get exclusive DLC within DLC! So, Xbox owners are required to pay the same for DLC with less content in said DLC. Even Sony fans should see this as downright wrong.


Also, announcing 2 DLC packs months before the game is even released has "Cash Grab" all over it. The game is already a $140 investment right after launch now. Bungie is making almost as many foolish moves with this game as MS did at E3 2013.


I won't be buying the game myself - a Bungie fan since Operation: Desert Storm. And when I asked my son, a Bungie fan since Halo Combat Evolved, if he wanted me to pre-order it for him for his BD, he said No Thanks. I did a double take and said, Seriously? He said none of his friends are getting it and it doesn't look very interesting anyway. Cool with me. Saves me some cash.

justin1946394
justin1946394

and people with monstrous pc's such as myself?

DemoKnight10656
DemoKnight10656

you say you love them equally but you give the ps players the game first and ur give them the beta first also while the xbox one has to wait till the 23rd to try it even once but that's none of my business

thegamer00
thegamer00

MS owns 49% of bungie anyways.  They don't have majority share to make any decisions but whatever money bungie earns.  MS gets 49%

bourne714
bourne714

I think it's cool that Playstation owners finally get to enjoy the Awesomeness that is Bungie. I remember PS fanboys always ranting that Halo is just another shooter blah blah, Killzone is better blah blah. I bet now Xbox and Playstation fans will be able to agree on one thing. Bungie is one of the best developers in the world and is the undisputed sci-fi fps champion. On a side note, a lot of people don't realize that 343 Industries is made up of a lot of the old Bungie staff and was practically put together by Bungie to carry on the torch for Halo. It really is like a Bungie clone in a lot of ways. And thats a good thing. Halo 4 was awesome and Halo 5 is going to be even better. I can't wait.

Llama345
Llama345

Bungie loves money equally.

nyran125tk
nyran125tk

i dont care, still annoyed they released HALO 1 on PC then waited 5 or so years to bring HALO 2 to PC and never bought HALO 3 to PC, so whatever. 


When i see companies that are more interested in exclusive deals than wanting ALL gamers to play their games, i seriously dont care about them. 


The whole SONY vs MICROSOFT thing is silly anyway. 

pignugget
pignugget

Hand is to glove as foot is to shoe. Yada yada yada. Blah Blah Blah.

ArchoNils2
ArchoNils2

Let's see:
1) xBox gamers know Bungie much better than Sony gamers
2) PS4 sold much more than xBox1
- It makes sense that Bungie focuses on Sony. Sure they do not admit that, but they do. Maybe Sony even gave them some money for exclusive stuff

blackbeltjones
blackbeltjones

Why is this even an issue? It is coming to PS4, PS3, Xbox 360 and Xbox One.... People complaining at Bungie for exclusive content and 3 extra "beta" days? Seriously they owe Xbox owners nothing. We didn't give them our money for nothing. The Halo series by Bungie was great and they even allowed the same fans to use their Halo engines for the Red Vs Blue series. I am sure anyone who plays on consoles has at least played a Halo or 2 regardless if they had an Xbox or not. No company is a sellout, exclusive or not. Companies are formed to make money, unless Bungie somehow became a non profit organization. If you have an Xbox or PS, get it on that system. If you have both systems, obviously it would be better to get it with the exclusive content but is that really a deal breaker.... Hardly. I am glad everyone get to experience Bungie's games and I hope this one doesn't disappoint. I am not a big MMO fan but I do like Bungie's style and writing. Get Destiny and if it is a good game it wont make a difference which console you play it on..... Whew!!

wowwow27
wowwow27

why would i pay for gold, then pay again for netflix, stupid.

tawilk34
tawilk34

@bdrtfm unfortunately the gaming industry is considered an oligopoly with minimal competition, heck in some cases considered a monopoly with exclusive content and certain IPs.  there is no real incentive for a developer to directly compete for your business, other than the time spent on one game vs another.  this is why most big games are so heavily budgeted in their marketing department rather than their game development department.


you would think if bungie truly cared, they would have either not favored one console over another or offered specific content/incentives to each system.


though i really think it's funny bungie wants to be independent and produce something other than halo, and they end up with a game that a very halo-esc feel and play (along w/ some borderlands).  i guess their new baby didn't fall too far from the tree.

johnintoit
johnintoit

@themc_7 That is what it is and I can live with that but when we pay same price for less content that's when I have an issue with it.

BattleOfficer
BattleOfficer

@vrajitorugaoz i guess :/

Want to know the irony? PC version cost less to operate and patch.. /facepalm

ricku1967
ricku1967

@bdrtfmHave you heard of the games The division? minecraft? COD? fallout 3 and fallout new vegas? Skyrim? this list is extensive so ill stop there. What do all these games have in common? they all had xbox priority. in fact, PS got the shaft the entire last console generation when it came to console priority. and yet, I have never seen the level of hate that this one single game has generated..not once. In fact i havent even seen this much hurt from PS fans when the makers of sunset overdrive, a long time PS developer, when it was learned sunset overdrive will be an xbox exclusive. not just some less than 1% dlc, but an entire game being exclusive. 


 The point im trying to make is, First and foremost, games are a business, developers make games to make money..period. Bungie is making Destiny...thats it, they had no say in the matter of who got console priority. That was up to MS and Sony when Activision approached them to see which one wanted Destiny exclusive content. Sony outbid MS, plain and simple.in fact, one could have the argument that it was MS who let their fans down since the let Sony out bid them, but that would be just as ridiculous and being mad at bungie is. the fact of the matter is, It was business, not personal. If you want to point the finger at someone, point it at the industry not bungie. Destiny isnt the first, and will most definitely wont be the last game that will have console priority. It is now an industry wide practice. 

jasongm
jasongm

@DemoKnight10656 Just like COD for the Xbox has exclusive first, guess Sony got to Bungie before Microsoft did for Destiny.

Llama345
Llama345

@ares42ful Why in the hell would you want this? Also there is no way that will happen seeing MS owns all the rights.

deathwish026
deathwish026

@ares42ful @BFKZ the same could be said for sonys biggest exclusives.. wheres your petition for them to go on xbox one HMM ?. just another console war fuel distributer tsk tsk.

ershellfrank
ershellfrank

I've seen an insane amount of hate from PS fans when it comes to sunset overdrive.

I don't think Sony got this bad of a shaft last generation. They got content last and priority went to MS but I doubt they had to ever pay the same for DLC content but get less from it. That is completely unfair.

sammoth
sammoth

@jasongm @DemoKnight10656  Exclusive content not Testing time. Difference is Halo fans supported these guys and now are getting the short end of the stick. To me it's not a big deal but, I can see why some Bungie / Halo fans are p/i/s/s/e/d.

ares42ful
ares42ful

@Llama345 @ares42ful yes i know it sounds really crazy but it is far more profitable than keeping it an exclusive as Microsoft is the publisher they would stand to make a lot of money from this and we all know Microsoft loves money. Furthermore people say they don't like the way console exclusivity is going, as gamers we can get this to change by petitioning for the release of old exclusives on other systems. Something like this could lead to Last Of Us or Uncharted on Xbox and PC.

bourne714
bourne714

A petition to bring Halo MCC to PS4? Really? You do realize that Microsoft/Xbox OWNS the rights to Halo don't you? You would have a better chance at winning the lottery.

blackbeltjones
blackbeltjones

@ares42ful @blackbeltjones I think a petition like this would work as much as one for Naughty Dog to bring Uncharted to the Xbox and PC or Nintendo bringing Mario World or Kart to the PS4 and XBox One. The reason there are exclusive games by these companies is to draw people to the hardware. I eventually own all the systems so I could care less about exclusive games. Exclusive content doesnt really push systems. It will push which version of the game a multiconsole owner gets but thats about it.

ares42ful
ares42ful

@deathwish026 @ares42ful @BFKZ I chose the Halo MCC because it represents an opportunity to bring a lot more fans to the series bl allowing newcomers to play all the core Halo games. If there was an Uncharted 1-3 remastered edition I would've surely included that in the petition, since it's only Halo right now I believe if Microsoft did it right now Sony would be forced to follow suit by popular demand. 

ricku1967
ricku1967

@ershellfrank really? i havent see THIS much hate over sunset overdrive that is being thrown at bungie. is it Unfair? yes it is, one can be disappointed also, but to say Bungie let their fans down or betrayed them simply isnt true. MS just as easily could have had the Priority for Destiny, but Sony just made a better business move than MS for once.like i said, its business, not personal. The sad truth is its an industry wide activity now. we dont have to like it, but the only way to combat it is to not buy the games that do this, but then the entire industry dies if thats done, not just one developer

ricku1967
ricku1967

@sammoth they are stress testing the server, the best way to do that is in waves, not all at once. 4 extra days of content that can be played in 2 is not a big deal

ares42ful
ares42ful

@bourne714  its better to try and end the reign of console exclusives by using a big name franchise like this, I would say the same for god of war or killzone but the new Halo MCC presents an opportunity for microsoft to gain more fans as well as make their long term goals far more profitable.

ares42ful
ares42ful

@blackbeltjones @ares42ful my reason for it is that halo 1 and 2 weren't xbox exclusive and by doing this they stand to make more money off the franchise as well as opening up the possibility for other games like Uncharted to become multi-platform

love4dagame
love4dagame

@ares42ful @deathwish026 @BFKZ This would only be in a perfect world. I am sorry buddy.. but there is different consoles for the single reason that they have platform exclusives.. If there was no such thing as exclusives.. there would be less initiative to strive for innovation in the industry and gaming would be a monopoly. Dominated by one system. Competition is what drives technological advances in hardware and software, without it.. where's the desire and passion to evolve?


It's Human nature to be competitive.. and is one of the reasons why we continue to progress further and further into the unknown at a faster and faster pace.

sammoth
sammoth

@ricku1967 @sammoth  Uh no this is not about stress testing. Since MS and PSN have their own servers for it. They both don't share the same servers. It's been more than 4 days where have you been ?

deathwish026
deathwish026

@ares42ful @bourne714 what alot of crap. microsoft doesent have much going for them other then halo so if they allowed it to be on ps4 they would sell even less consoles.. even if you got a million sony ponies to sign it the bigwigs at microsoft would still laugh there asses off.

bourne714
bourne714

They were Microsoft exclusive.

tawilk34
tawilk34

@love4dagame @ares42ful @deathwish026 @BFKZ yeah, sorry but saying that it's good to have essentially only 2 systems to choose from (i guess 3 if you want to count WiiU) that that is a good amount of competition in the market is tragically hilarious.  i get that you're assuming that if of the consoles disappears, then there would be a monopoly, i get that, but it's not what would be.


people favoring competition, would opt to get rid of both consoles and favor an open platform system (lets call this new form of a platform a PC).  you could essentially buy and piece together whatever parts of technology you wanted to make the game run smoother.  technology would actually  be accelerated within this market.  developers would actually have to compete, versus creating exclusive content and IPs (which are essentially monopolies).  games would no longer be arbitrarily fixed at a $60 pricing point.


strong supplier sided oligopolies (which the gaming industry currently is [even more so for consoles]) is bad for consumers (us!!).

ares42ful
ares42ful

@love4dagame @ares42ful @deathwish026 @BFKZ if there were less console exclusives technological progress on consoles would happen faster as companies would have to work harder on consoles to give consumers a reason to buy their console over the competition, in the end it benefits the gaming community as a whole.

ricku1967
ricku1967

@sammoth uh im just quoting what bungie said publicly already.
besides, it still doesnt change the fact that the content in the beta can be played in 2 days, not 9, 6 or even 4...still, not a big deal
..everyone gets to play the full game on 9/9