Bungie discusses what Destiny will do better than Borderlands

Design director says upcoming open-world shooter has taken inspiration from Far Cry and Borderlands and gone steps further.

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Bungie Studios has opened up about what Destiny will do better than other open-world franchises Far Cry and Borderlands. Speaking with Edge, design director Joe Staten said gamers will find "familiar" elements in Destiny, but that the game will advance these systems and features to new levels.

"We are absolutely doing things that would be familiar if you've played any kind of open-world game," Staten said. "I mean… Far Cry, even. We would be idiots if we didn't look at an awesome game like Borderlands and ask, 'What are they doing well and how can we try to hit that same ball?' I have never played a game where I have such a great attachment to my gun as I do in Borderlands."

Staten explained that Destiny's social features, like when players come across groups of other people in the in-game world, is unparalleled in online shooters today.

"When we look at a game like that, we look at the things they're doing well and also at opportunities they might have missed that we can capitalize on," Staten said. "You can party up with a group of people and then go around with that group, but never in Borderlands are you going to collide with a group of other people doing it too. We don’t do that just once or twice in the game, we do that all the time, everywhere."

"You see other people on the horizon, hear gunfire over a hill, and see space magic flying behind some trees, and you know… there are other people out here, that [changes everything]," Staten added. "Borderlands right now is: 'I'm going to walk into that space and we’re going to clear them out and keep going.' And frankly that's not just Borderlands, that’s any co-op shooter."

Destiny launches in 2014 for Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, and PlayStation 4. For more, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

Discussion

247 comments
Ortego13
Ortego13

And what if I would prefer to play alone, like a single player mode. I personally do not want other crazy players joining my game, doing shit stuff and totally ruining it. What if I just want to enjoy the story, experience games atmosphere. I think this title is very prospective, but devs shouldnt force players to run co-op.

dpclark
dpclark

Its not clear in what ways Destiny will be better on the PS4 than The Bone...

carnivalshow
carnivalshow

Borderlands 2 is my all time number one game . This game looks like an game id like ill have to keep an eye on it .

slowram
slowram

I really wonder about the direction big game companies are going with these next gen systems.  They seem heavily focused on multiplayer.  Yet MMOs are dying and the people playing them as a whole prefer to solo play a majority of the time which somewhat defeats the need for an MMO. 

GTA is a top seller and it doesn't bust it's budget on a massively multiplayer world.  

COD does well multiplayer but it's just a group of several people (not hundreds+) and it's a fast action shoot and respawn.  

I hope Destiny manages to find a good balance, sounds like they're too focused on multiplayer and unlike a few rounds of COD I am hoping Destiny is much deeper with a real campaign.

What Borderlands does well is mix fps with rpg level up mechanics and varied guns.

VenkmanPHD
VenkmanPHD

This is also why The Division looks so cool.

XCyberForceX
XCyberForceX

I want to know what they are going to do better than Defiance.  So far the description of  the game sounds too similar.  What separates you from Defiance, Destiny?  Answer that question!

DemoKnight10656
DemoKnight10656

You caught me when you said "what can we do that borderlands does and do it better" but what you didnt say is why this game going to be better then COD

Deathsmiles76
Deathsmiles76

Sounds like this could be an awesome game I hope it will be as epic as halo.

Yamakoichi
Yamakoichi

Hopefully everything.

Do not get me wrong, on paper borderlands 1 and 2 seem almost the perfect game for me personally, but in playing them I am bored shitless and it just does not make any sense.

Not going to pre-order or anything but I am looking forward to what the future holds with Destiny

drybones41
drybones41

I've probably missed an article, but... I wonder what the F2P model is like, this could screw it up if not done right.

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

well thats interesting considering what a bad reveal they had at e3.hated halo but hoping for something better here

drswank
drswank

At least they aren't shy about who they're knocking off...after all, Halo was just Casual Tribes for the masses.

DinoBuster
DinoBuster

People play Borderlands because it's and FPS Diablo. Your game sounds like Defiance.

hadlee73
hadlee73

"I have never played a game where I have such a great attachment to my gun as I do in Borderlands." That's odd. When I play Borderlands I'm constantly throwing my gun away to obtain a better one.

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

I don't want another borderlands type game, I want something that is its own thing, if I want borderlands I will play borderlands which I already do on a regular basis. Also don't know if this game can beat borderlands cause I play borderlands for different reasons that other shooters, mainly the comedy.

baszzer
baszzer

Hell yeah he's right. This is what the industry badly needs. A spice of change and innovation.

sammoth
sammoth

Mehh the fact that they even have to compare it to Borderlands is just stupid. There is no need for it. Both games have perks for people.  

kvan33
kvan33

They can compare Destiny to Borderlands all they want, but there's one thing they'll never have in their game...Bonerfarts. Advantage Borderlands!

jay_rock_
jay_rock_

ACTION SPEAK LOUDER THEN WORDS JUST SAYING!

Tygravius
Tygravius

Please don't have as many guns as Borderlands...sorry, it was way overkill to me. I spent half the time comparing the guns minor difference than actually playing the game.

hystavito
hystavito

The way they describe running into people already doing things, sounds a lot like Defiance.  Of course Destiny will probably be a lot higher quality game, but that aspect sounds very similar.

foxrock66
foxrock66

Please let this be good and not feel worn out like Halo

nephili232
nephili232

Borderlands has always been a great idea with mediocre execution... and it's still a blast. I can't wait for Destiny. It looks to be so much more than Borderlands. This MMO shooter hybrid is a great idea. It could be a defining experience of this coming generation.

gunzlingerbila
gunzlingerbila

I would give it a go if it were to hit PC. I'm done with FPSes on consoles. Used to be good on 360 but now its PC all the way from here until the next gen gets a price cut and great exclusives.

ntippit
ntippit

People really hate this game because its "like other shooters"? so is every FPS ever made. thats how genres start and exist. we would have no COD without medal of honor, no Halo without Doom. so if this kind of looks like borderlands (which is a good thing) whats the big deal? the same recycled COD gets reskinned and sent out every year with thunderous applause, but Bungie gets butchered on these boards? I just dont see where the sheer hate comes from...

vadagar1
vadagar1

frankly I was hoping for more challenge and more atmosphere and more world immersion

also guns should sound and feel good if you don't know what that means then u don't have a soul and i pity you 

evil_snuggles
evil_snuggles

I think this game is going to be a huge flop.

JimmyJumpy
JimmyJumpy

Some of the 'familiar' things I saw were the aliens who looked suspiciously like the ones from  'The Fifth Element' (the movie) and 'Mass Effect'...

Not that it's a bad thing.  It's fun to see recognizable stuff.  So far, this is looking amazing, graphics-wise....

Cryio
Cryio

Maybe I'm damaged goods, but I really don't see what people like so much about this game.

It's something nice looking, Borderlands 50% of the game, generic coridor FPS the other 50% of the game. Or at least that was the impression that came from E3

Benny_Blakk
Benny_Blakk

@slowram What I absolutely hate about the few MMO's I've played is no true sense of progression in a story. That needs to evolve to make MMO's more desirable.

Benny_Blakk
Benny_Blakk

@VenkmanPHD Unlike everyone else going nuts for Titanfall, The Division is the title at E3 that I found to be the most intriguing.

valknight
valknight

@XCyberForceX The leveling in defiance was terrible. You can use the same gun at lvl 700000 as you can at level 200. 

valknight
valknight

@DemoKnight10656 lol if it has any semblance of a story then it will be better than the most recent call of duty. and the next too probably. 

Discage
Discage

@Yamakoichi Glad I'm not the only one. I didn't enjoy the games all that much either. I loved the humor and writing but the gameplay itself as you put it: "bored shitless".


Discage
Discage

@drybones41 Game is already screwed up. You can easily edit a save and get anything you want even with the latest patch.

Wattsburg0
Wattsburg0

@DinoBuster  I hope I have better luck with their servers than I do with Defiance.I don’t mind driving down a road and hitting something that isn’t there but getting kicked from servers 4 times sucks and so does trying to pull up your weapons to change boom sticks when your current one is out of ammo just to wait…..wait…getting shot…wait…wait….still getting shot…..cancel operation and run before I get killed and try again.

slowram
slowram

@hadlee73 Haha, too true and when you aren't you keep hoping you'll do so with the next chest.

Trance_Circa
Trance_Circa

@ntippit I don't understand how ppl could say this is like other shooters. This game combines MMO, FPS, and RPG elements into an open world style that spans multiple planets.  Is there a game that does this already?

hystavito
hystavito

@Cryio That generic corridor FPS you speak of, well that's what most people actually want :).  I really hate the corridor stuff, but that's how a lot of action games are now.

kingboo35
kingboo35

@Cryio  

one of the main reasons im so interested in it is that its like a borderlands game and i love borderlands games, another reason why im so excited is that its like a borderlands game that isn't made by gearbox, i mean don't get me wrong i love bl but there are so many bugs and just annoying things in the game that never got fixed and never will,like getting stuck, loot falling though the ground, tons of modders(giving them the best things then just killing everything with ease in your game), killing the warrior only to have some of his loot under his body so you have to either leave it or make another run to the vault so his body will disappear, low drop rates, bullet sponge enemies, tons of re-skinned enemies(dlc mainly),and other junk

ShagsterP
ShagsterP

@Cryio I was actually highly interested in it before any gameplay was revealed.  Then it was.  Now, not so interested.

Enundr
Enundr

@Wattsburg0 @DinoBuster defiance itself wasnt "bad" , it could have been better....the biggest issues it faced was the server stability....<,<

Trance_Circa
Trance_Circa

@hystavito @Cryio They showed the entire valley below the cliff at the beginning that is all open and exploreable; This game will not just be small corridors.

slowram
slowram

@kingboo35 Me too, I am interested in this game because it reminds more of Borderlands than any other big budget game I know of coming out.  I play more Borderlands than any other game.  What concerns me about this article though is what they say makes it better than BL is that it is more multiplayer and that certainly isn't what I'd look to for improving BL, so now I don't know if it will be so great.  There are very specific reasons FPS games aren't massively multiplayer and Google Fiber isn't coming to everyone in the next few months so I don't see how things will be any different when this game launches.

Wattsburg0
Wattsburg0

@Enundr @Wattsburg0 @DinoBuster Yes it is fun when I can stay on the server.  Be great if you did not have to wait so long for the Map to pop up too.  They will learn from this.