Bungie discusses cross-gen Destiny

Developer says it will "push this game as far" as it can on every platform, teases specific features to be revealed at E3 in June.

Bungie's all-new shooter Destiny will be released on both current- and next-generation consoles, but will there be differences between the two versions?

Discussing this with X360 Magazine, Bungie design director Joseph Staten teased that more specifics will be divulged at the 2013 Electronic Entertainment Expo, but noted that the studio's ambition is to "push this game as far" as it can on every platform.

"Anytime you get your hands on new hardware you're going to try and take advantage of everything it has to offer," Staten said. "I know coming up at E3 we'll be talking more about the specific features, but just like with any hardware leap, absolutely, we're going to push this game as far [as] it can be pushed on whatever platform."

Regardless of platform, the game will "look great," Staten added.

"It's going to look great on PS3, it'll look awesome on 360, and it'll look great on PS4 as well," he said. "You can bet that no matter where we are, we're going to make the game look great."

Destiny is also rumored to launch for the Xbox 720, as well as the PC, Wii U, and PlayStation Vita.

Bungie previously downplayed the differences between current- and next-generation versions of Destiny, saying the studio will deliver the "full vision" of the game on all platforms.

"We've been planning for multiple hardware platforms from the very beginning, and while we can't get into the minute technical details of each console, we're fully committed to delivering our full vision for Destiny on every console we ship on," Bungie said at the time. "Currently, that list is PlayStation 4, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360."

Not all developers believe cross-generation development is a good idea. The Witcher developer CD Projekt Red CEO Marcin Iwinski explained this month that developers must compromise when making games for current- and next-generation platforms. Furthermore, these compromises may negatively impact gamers, he argued.

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dpclark
dpclark

Destiny designed to run on multi-platforms.  Your, iPhone, Windows Phone, Android Phone, Tablet, Wii U, Wii, 3DS, Xbox 360, The Bone, PS3, PS4, and... and... and... the PC.  Yay!  BIG WIN ALL AROUND!

DestinySUCKS
DestinySUCKS

Destiny sucks because it is a perfect example of star wars. The images of destiny makes it look like there is darth vader, people with capes, and other stupid robots. It seems like a childish game that only nerds would play that is rated E for every nerd who can play. Although it seems the game does have pretty good graphics but bungie had to waste it on a crappy game like this one. I am disopointed in bungie ,it seems like every game they came up with was good except this one. Even in halo every game they came out with started to act more and more like star wars. Even a childerns book such as winnie the pooh would be a little bit more enjoyable than playing that cheesy game. I definitely won't be buying this game it is a real disappointment.

JDWinterboard
JDWinterboard

I am glad that they are making this game for both next gen and Xbox360 and PS3 because there are people like me who can not play for so long on the game and can not get the next gen consoles (although it would be awesome). And just asking but what would be the down side of having the game for both consoles now and next gen?

ToughCritic28
ToughCritic28

I'm not a fan of the fact that it's being developed for current gen consoles.  Their claims that it will fully utilize the power of every console are baseless.  Obviously they want to drive sales up, so they'll claim that every version will be as good as it can be, but that's definitely not going to happen unless they start from the ground up for next gen consoles.  I guess I'll wait for their big reveal at E3 to see what will be different for next gen, but I'm mildly disappointed at this.

Thegamer16
Thegamer16

Why not release it on PS2? I mean it wouldn't really be that big of a deal at this point right lol


TumblinDice
TumblinDice

Developer says it will "push this game as far" as it can on every platform.

Translation: We will milk this game to friggin death.

Zloth2
Zloth2

Yeah, they might bump the graphics up some for new consoles and PC but the game design has to be for the lowest common denominator.  That means a quarter gig of memory and not so impressive CPUs.  Basically, pretty much what PC gamers have been stuck with for years now.  It will sure be nice to have some company....

keldarironfist
keldarironfist

What happened to studios just making games. Now it as to be some super epic "experience". This isn't a game it's a "multi generational content experience". IE: they don't want to have to create new games, they want a "platform/brand" that they can milk for the entirety of next generation, oh GOODY.

SurlyPotato
SurlyPotato

Pretty sure this will skip the Wii U

Amity6
Amity6

I would be interested in this game if they announced that Xbox Pc and Ps3 and next gen consoles could all play together. 

Gears_0f_L0ve
Gears_0f_L0ve

Please work on the PC version and set that as the standard, then port to consoles.  Please, pretty please.

nairz
nairz

All this hype for this game, they better deliver, because our expectations only gets higher!

zintarr
zintarr

Sounds like Waterworld.

ishsgames
ishsgames

The only reason the X360 and Ps3  are holding back Destiny is because of Activision, otherwise, Bungie probably would of just done X720, PS4 and possible PC release, and that is probably how most developers would want to do it.

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

This game's budget must be massive to be developed for so many platforms. It's going to be interesting to see how this turns out. One would think that a monthly/yearly subscription of some kind must be in the works with a project this huge.

Ryuuken27
Ryuuken27

I'm starting to wonder if this game either will be the biggest hit or the biggest bomb in the gaming history. They wanna hype the game but, don't know how. I think it's going to be a Call of Destiny, taking from call of duty since they seem to share a LOT of gaming mechanics, well this is the age we live in, you either fail to innovate or innovate on failures. Best of luck!

Supabul
Supabul

So it's going to look great on PS3 & PS4, but it's going to look AWESOME on Xbox 360

gplayer5
gplayer5

o wow, I thought it would never come out on pc. This is great news.

davidsworld3
davidsworld3

I'm not so sure about this game. I am a big fan of Halo and now they are talking like they didn't really care about those games that they never really did as much as they could have, after all they made that crappy co op...I think they are trying way too damn hard. It's all talk show me why it's gonna be their best game more than just because it's made after Halo. 

I bet I end up still liking Halo CE better than this game.

fredyellowone
fredyellowone

Sometimes I see PC gamers going to PS/BOX forums, to say things like "Where is my PC version???"

I find that very strange.  Do i go post to Stracraft 2 forums to beg a port to PS3?

Or maybe people expect every game that exist to be on PC but not the opposite?

spacemonkeeys
spacemonkeeys

@ToughCritic28 

I agree, and from what I've seen so far it looks visually bland.

Developers have to work within the constraints of the weakest platform, so this isn't a truly next-gen game.

I hope oculus rift works well with this game, that would be really cool.

Kinthalis
Kinthalis

@Thegamer16 If they DID release it on the PS2, it would too be the "best" there as well, and would look just a "Great" as it would on a high end PC or PS4. 

They promise.


Rickystickyman
Rickystickyman

@TumblinDice That is a pretty bad translation since they are talking about graphics and not DLC or content. Did you even read the article?

dpclark
dpclark

@Zloth2 

Yep.  Lowest common denominator means not next-gen.

AcidD00BS
AcidD00BS

@Amity6 being able to play with other console gamers would be great, would be kind of an unfair advantage for PC players over other console players though as keyboard and mouse just destroy a controller. 

grey_fox1984
grey_fox1984

@Gears_0f_L0ve Yeah, set the most malleable platform that has no set hardware guidelines at all as the standard. Are you aware of the definition of the word "standard"?


gutsallover
gutsallover

@SavoyPrime Bungie has said that there will be no subscription fee for Destiny. Of course, this could change. However, I expect they'll fund the game through microtransactions. Hopefully this takes the form of the Blizzard store for WoW or something similar, rather than the pay-to-win crap that destroys so many potentially good online games. 

smithster77
smithster77

@Supabul Yeah, I found that comment interesting as well. Sensing a strong bias towards the Xbox - understandable given its Bungie but lets hope it doesn't affect the game on the Sony systems ie: support, release dates, DLC, servers etc.

Either way this game is looking the goods, seems a developer is finally trying to look outside the box for originality to create something mainstream and popular.

RO-nIn187
RO-nIn187

@Supabul yeah right.... if they truly develope it for the ps3 hardware even the ps3 version will be superior...

zulwalks
zulwalks

@PSYCHOV3N0M What they could also do, as the years go by, release a graphics update for the next-gen console and pc version of the game. Anyway, if it really would be a great game, graphics wouldn't really matter as long as the art holds up and gameplay is updated like World of Warcraft.

JDWinterboard
JDWinterboard

@davidsworld3 I'm not trying to call you out but if you look at some of the destiny teasers and compare them to halo to me it lokos like they have a similar movement to the characters. 

smackdowner360
smackdowner360

@fredyellowone It's because PC is dying yet again it just took another hit last quarter of 2012.There just isn't any game's on PC anymore so they beg for them.When you look at console game's you have Gears,Killzone,Resistance,,Forza,Grand turismo,Fable,Uncharted,PGR,Halo and i could go on.It's just a dying platform which will be gone before to much longer.

davidsworld3
davidsworld3

@fredyellowone I dont get the pc, or specific fanboy for one console...how can you consider yourself a true gamer if you diss others for their taste in games?

I have all the latest consoles except the wii u I didn't get enough out of the wii for it to be worth getting their next one.  Doesn't come off as a true next gen either.

I love games on pc that are built for the pc, though I wont lie if I said I would love to see a console that can do simulators like x wing, or wing commander prophecy and for it to be the same quality.

Total_mischief
Total_mischief

I wish people would no longer generalize. Obnoxious fanboys are obnoxious fanboys. There's no shortage of them for every platform, but they're all as bad as the other. And yes, PS3 and 360 fanboys will go on another platform's forum to bitch. Because they're fanboys.

a140lbstud
a140lbstud

@Rickystickyman @TumblinDice  

I have no faith that the game will be any good now. You simply can not have the same quality of game on the 360 as you can on a modern pc or ps4. Look at Battlefield for example. The 360 version is a hollow shell compared to the pc version.


Let me guess the vita and wii versions will be the same as the ps4 or pc version...

Malckeor
Malckeor

@grey_fox1984 @Gears_0f_L0ve This would actually be the smartest thing to do. They'd just have to make the textures not-as-high-resolution for the consoles, which is why devs like CD Projekt Red's ports are so good, I'd imagine.

 I really wish there were more devs like them...

smackdowner360
smackdowner360

@RO-nIn187 @Supabul Not really,the PS3 can't hold a candle to the Xbox 360 graphic's.I have both console's and PS3 is far behind in every department.Anytime i play the PS3 it feels like such a big step back.

ShimmeringSword
ShimmeringSword

@RO-nIn187 @Supabul Right because every multiplatform game for quite some times hasn't looked identical (sarcasm). He's bad for being an xbox fanboy, you're bad for being a sony fanboy. 360 and PS3 versions will look the same, PS4 and 720 will look the same, how PC looks will depend on your hardware.

ERRMAHGERD
ERRMAHGERD

@zulwalks @PSYCHOV3N0M a graphic update would rock my underpants, but considering how money hungry these guys are, i don't see that happening 

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

@Total_mischief There's something unique about PC gamers though. They seem to have more fun declaring their superiority than actually playing PC games.

PCs are superior gaming machines in a lot of ways, but the PC "Master Race" gamers themselves are dicks and can go **** themselves.

ToughCritic28
ToughCritic28

@smackdowner360 @RO-nIn187 @Supabul That's just not true.  The PS3's hardware is superior to the Xbox 360's.  This isn't opinion - many tech sites have compared the two consoles' internal components and the PS3 comes out on top.  It's not much better, but it is slightly better.  However, on multiplatform games, the difference becomes insignificant, as the developers are forced to develop for the lowest common denominator... ergo both versions end up looking identical.

zulwalks
zulwalks

@ERRMAHGERD @zulwalks @PSYCHOV3N0M The cost of making a graphics update isn't really much more than making a game since everything is already done. But the more worrying thing is that how would it affect the game? would it crash the game if the installation was not done right? And you can't really call out on any company to be money hungry. The only way that developers can increase the budget is to show investors that they can get much higher profits.

ShimmeringSword
ShimmeringSword

@Spartan_418 "I'm 100% accurate about 10% of things" You know that's a common joke format right? You best not derive your reasoning from a joke.

Spartan_418
Spartan_418

@Total_mischief I'm not generalizing about all PC gamers, I'm speaking specifically about the ones who call themselves "Master Race".

In -their- case, my description is 100% accurate.

No_SuRReNDeR
No_SuRReNDeR

@Total_mischief @Spartan_418 I have both and a good PC and a PS3 but my reason is to have access to all the titles I want and since most 360 games are PC avail makes more sense to have the PS3 with it. I dont care about platform...I just want to enjoy the games...case in point--->best game I played in YEARS was a wii game....XenobladeChronicles.