Blizzard's next-gen MMO unlikely to be subscription-based

Cofounder Mike Morhaime says Titan likely won't carry a subscription fee when it does launch; project going through "re-envisioning."

Blizzard Entertainment's next-generation MMORPG--codenamed Titan--may not carry a subscription fee or even be an MMORPG when it releases, cofounder Mike Morhaime said today during an Activision Blizzard earnings call.

"We're in the process of selecting a new direction for the project and re-envisioning what we want the game to be," Morhaime said. "While we can't talk about the details yet, it is unlikely to be a subscription-based MMORPG."

At the end of May, Blizzard confirmed "large design and technology changes" for Titan. He also made clear today that no official release date for the game has been announced so far.

The executive also pointed out that several developers on Titan have been shifted to the World of Warcraft and Diablo development teams.

Blizzard Entertainment's current MMO, World of Warcraft, is the biggest subscription-based MMO on the market. It launched in 2004 and had 7.7 million subscribers as of June 30.

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DrowNoble
DrowNoble

Rift's hybrid model is the best.  If you are a free player, you get everything.  No restrictions on zones, levels or gear.  Not even number of hotbars (looking at you TOR).  Yet if you sub, then you get bonus goodies for faster xp, pvp favor, etc.

That's how a hybrid should be, reward you for subbing not punish you for not subbing.

Hurvl
Hurvl

Lol, no subscription based MMO following WoW has even come close to being as successful as it. It's kind of ironic that the company behind WoW can't then make another subscription based MMO. F2P or buy-to-play (with cosmetic microtransactions) is here to stay.

David De La Vega
David De La Vega

Lel, Warcraft was an RTS long before it was an MMO Ryan. In fact, Warcraft: Orcs and Humans came out in 1994. Starcraft came AFTER Warcraft and was considered the space warcraft.

s0ldier69
s0ldier69

"Re-invisioning Titan."  aka - "Destiny beat us to the punch and now we're f**ked!"

Tripwolf
Tripwolf

If there's a cash-shop like GW2, I'm not interested.

I'm sick of Pay-To-Win games.

Want the best armor? Swipe your debit card. Want faster experience? Swipe your debit card.

It's crap.

RoyialNetwork
RoyialNetwork

I love the way GW2 does it. I don't feel like i got ripped off and they constantly are updating and doing new things in the game all for one price and the store items are either cosmetic or small stuff that doesn't make a large difference either way. I'd like to see it go this route myself...hopefully not the way WoW is with a subscription AND in-game store. $15 for a hood is kinda nuts. Just my opinion.

Aladrael
Aladrael

It's about time they show us something already. As Guild Wars 2 started the next gen MMO stream,many other great next gen mmo's keep coming to the market, lowering the chance of Titan's success day by day and they crush WoW while they are at it too. 

Lachlan Lennox
Lachlan Lennox

unfortunately, Atlantis only had one large tower which also happened to be directly in the centre of the city

blackothh
blackothh

they let wow fall to shambles, they destroyed diablo, they decided a card game was the thing they needed to fill a gap. they are going to tease us for the next 15 years with titan. they put ghost into a time machine to be released in 100 years.

Starcraft is a good playthrough on the campaign, and the custom games out there are good too, but the competitive multiplayer is not for everyone.

That leaves warcraft.......dont mess it up!

DMND
DMND

By the looks of it, Blizzards needs to launch a time machine to please my fellow commentators. Nostalgia can't guide anyone to anywhere.

Ceclor
Ceclor

I don't know.  The longer Blizzard takes on this game, the worse it may turn out.  A long development time did not do Diablo 3 any favors.  I understand taking your time to make a good game.  Buuuut....

gamingnerd121
gamingnerd121

Called it, and now we're just waiting for a console announcement as well. It wouldn't surprise me tbh. Since they're going back and changing the design and technology.

That probably means i'll skip it, if that's the case.

eitremn
eitremn

I'm sure this redesign has something to do with the fact that Blizzard takes so long to put out a game that by the time the game does come out it's, now, old and outdated.

Sean DeMarco
Sean DeMarco

Wow wth ? If this is cyberpunk like then my brother who got the new Shadowrun will be playing this and I will still be playing WoW if it is around with an expansion that is hopefully more enjoyable than MOP. (horrible way to level with the questing .. easily the worst by far ever in WoW)

Slagar
Slagar

It is unlikely to be subscription-based. It is likely to be RMAH-based :D

cheesedumpling
cheesedumpling

No subscription... But will there be a RMAH?  If so, then we'd finally find out that the D3 RMAH was actually lucrative for the company.

teh_pwnager
teh_pwnager

Guild Wars (series) is the perfect MMO from this POV. The first games were like GW 2 pay once and own all. IF you want more you pay real money to show your support, but you only get aesthetic  items and they aren't even the most cool looking one. It worked so great that after 4 games they could afford bringing project Guild Wars 2 to life. They kept the setting and it works wonders 3+ active acounts after almost one year since launch and they are able to supply the players with new and big content updates once in 2 weeks. The game has it flaws ofc but because of the "need all once i log in" mentality now a days most of the complains are just whining. All in all the game is great, and it will only gain terrain in it's market zone over the time, I won't get suprised if Blizz is going the same road.

adilejaz
adilejaz

yeah blizzard is not the company I knew any more!! After what they did to me in Diablo 3, they will never have my attention

Bartrentenaar
Bartrentenaar

Don't you understand, game company's won't survive when people have to pay 15 dollar each month to play it, look at all other mmo's with that idiotic plan who all drowned in crappy sales. p2p is pure shit.

xeoneex66
xeoneex66

Starting to get REAL sick of the FTP, or in real world terms pay to win.  This model needs to go.  It's ruining the MMO genre of games and like everything else in the gaming industry, it's all falling apart.  I miss the good ol days of MMO gaming...*sigh* such is the way of the future I guess where the industry is run by whiney 10 year old brats who use mommy and daddies bank card to get ahead then slap everyone in the face with their giant epeen, i mean ego.  Things need to change if the gaming industry is to survive the next major gaming crash.

haroonhd
haroonhd

in game ads, another new trick to ruin video games why blizzard don't get bankrupt......

haroonhd
haroonhd

again an always online shit they are the reason people stop playing games on PC

Tyler Hanson
Tyler Hanson

Make it like Gulid Wars 2. Buy it once and your good to go till expansions come out.

acelogan1989
acelogan1989

@Tripwolf i think you are misinformed about GW2 , cash shop in Gw2 are just a cosmetic . if you see an armor in cash shop , it just a skin . it doesnt add any attribute bonus. and you can use your in-game currency to buy from cash shop .

Aladrael
Aladrael

@Tripwolf Guild Wars 2's cash shop is not selling any game changer items besides exp boosters. It's mostly cosmetics (costumes,pets etc) and some personal extras like extra bank slots. Nothing to create unfair differences between players.

chronocommander
chronocommander

@Lachlan Lennox Stargate? A Stargate MMO would be nice.

404FredNotFound
404FredNotFound

@Ceclor 

Actually Titan was scratch recently they said the project wasn't going in the right direction so the started from the ground up, we won't see this game any time soon, I kinda understand Blizzard tho its not easy to follow up to a game like WoW that on the top of its game had 12m subscribers, I don't think Blizzard left this game to die, there's so much you can do on a 10 year old game, but WoW is slowly dieing, they just have to put Titan out before that happens to avoid losing their massive Fan Base.

neroist
neroist

@Slagar Yeah the practices of Activision/Blizzard are far worse than EA as of late, but still ride on the laurels of fanbois. Act/Blizz make rehash graphically inferior games every time. Then charge out the ying yang to play. I enjoy  far more the games coming from EA (Bioware, Visceral anyone). But mindless internetz love Blizz but hate EA cause it is the cool thing to do.

Slagar
Slagar

@teh_pwnager Uhh, no. Guild Wars 1 wasn't "pay once and own all". Guild Wars was "pay for each expansion", just like most games. Yes they did provide a lot of support and substantial updates to the game though.

DMND
DMND

@adilejaz Write them letter to make a game to your liking.

adilejaz
adilejaz

@xeoneex66 Xeon looks like you dont even know what you are sick of!! seriously you are one of the people who don't even know what shet they are talking!! All FTP games have real money purchasable items that are cosmetics and in no way give you an edge over other players!! I dont even know if you are a troll or what!!

colt_a
colt_a

@Tyler Hanson Except GW2 was largely a failure when compared to many other MMOs.  The playerbase has drastically dropped because the content is just a bunch of grind.  Nothing substantial.

Elann2008
Elann2008

@neroist

While I agree with the Acti-Blizz part, I'll have to agree to disagree with the EA bit.  EA was good some years back when they started publishing the Dead Space, Mass Effect, Mirror's Edge, DICE games.  Then it went downhill when the sequels started coming out.  But yeah, still a hell of a lot better than Acti-Blizz any day of the week. :)

teh_pwnager
teh_pwnager

@Slagar @teh_pwnager Guild Wars Complete collection, pay once own all. The veteran fans ofc they had to buy each campaing when it went on the sale.

Zyconnic
Zyconnic

@adilejaz @xeoneex66 often FTP games goes p2w.. I rather have a sub to a game than ftp tbh.. and ofc there should be a trial for everyone to have a taste of the game

xeoneex66
xeoneex66

@adilejaz @xeoneex66 It's quite evident you haven't played many FTP mmo's, while there are plenty with cosmetic items, there are ALOT of korean MMO's that have items that help you to get ahead.  Take Rappelz for example, there are items to increase the power of your weapons/armor.  And this is just one game.