BioWare considering changing Mass Effect 3 ending

Studio says it is "actively and seriously" taking all feedback into consideration, with no decision made yet regarding end to space-bound role-playing game.

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Will gamers get a new Mass Effect 3 ending? BioWare hasn't ruled it out. Writing on the official Mass Effect 3 Facebook page last night, the company said it has not yet decided whether it will offer fans a new ending to the space-faring role-playing game.

Could Mass Effect 3 have a different ending?

"We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out," reads the statement. "At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending."

Mass Effect 3 launched on March 6 to a warm critical reception and heat from users regarding the game's ending and its day-one downloadable content, From Ashes. Regarding the end to Mass Effect 3, executive producer Casey Hudson said last week that he wanted the game to be memorable, admitting that the conclusion was intentionally designed to get gamers talking.

Members of the Mass Effect community have formed the charity petition called Retake Mass Effect ChipIn fund, collecting PayPal donations for the Child's Play charity as a way of encouraging BioWare to make alternate Mass Effect 3 endings. As of press time, the fund has amassed over $67,000.

Concerning the From Ashes DLC, Hudson has defended the content, noting that work did not begin until after the developer finished Mass Effect 3. Electronic Arts later revealed that parts of the DLC were included on game discs.

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DoneThem
DoneThem

The 2 worst ending in my 30 years of playing video games, is mass effect 3  and borderlands. Better they would of handed Shepard a t-shirt with the words game over in the end. I am still traumatized. the ending just did not make any cents, that what pissed off so many people. The ending was a head game or what they call thief my head ending, and its only intention is to @%#$ up your head. Video game company should have more respect for the game players . Mass effect series has to many holes  in the plot .I played all 3 games more than twice . The more times you  play,  you see,additional story flaws.Mass effect 3 is just some pretty drawings with a halfway story and poor end .Commercialized Trash....

Growgor
Growgor

@TheSuperMario1 Most likely the usual typical hero type ending where Shepard destroys Reapers (and survives) and everyone lives happly ever after.

VilandasUK
VilandasUK

Knowing the greedy milking bastards EA will charge for this at a high price.

Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

Honestly...where does this "whiny fanboy story changing" madness end...what if no one likes the rewritten ending...change it again? This is literary terrorism at its core. Never negotiate with terrorists, you just eliminate them.

Lordcrabfood
Lordcrabfood

@supa_stud Lol, I did not turn anything around, I can not help it if you are a sheep. Do you really think I care what you think of me??. Get a life, lol

simpletaste
simpletaste

The choices were not limited by Mass Effect 3's ending, but at the very start of the game. Characters were disregarded as set pieces, choices were binary at best, and ultimately let down by the story telling throughout the entire game, not just the endings. The shift in focus is what hurt them the most. Working on the "newcomers welcome" angle, multiplayer, and micro transactions when they should of been concentrating on fleshing out the world and the story within that world, and more optimization PS3 frame rate for example. There's a lot of things that are a let down and changing the ending will only be an excuse to add paid DLC and wont fix the other issues so no thank you. I'll keep your original endings thanks.

gmromero
gmromero

All we gamers wanted was for Bioware to keep their promise of having our choices matter. Even 3-4 minutes of narrative at the end describing what happens to the Alliance, Krogan, Quarian/Geth, etc..- even just 3 minutes of that would have satisfied most people. Bioware couldn't even do that, and falsely advertised it's "choice" gimmick as proven by the game's linear quests and unchanging cutscenes. Gamespot, stop defending Bioware and admit that it isn't about "opinion" but about Bioware failing to live up to their own promises.

Lamesy
Lamesy

parrot_of_adun Posted Mar 21, 2012 9:50 pm GMT @ Enundr "I just suggested you misused the word, nothing more. Anyway, a story, no mater how good or bad, is a creative effort. "Creative" isn't some sort of praise, it just describes a form of expression. It's just means it's separate from efforts like, say, creating netcode. I'm not praising the ending as original, or whatever you seem to think "creative" means, I'm just saying it's a work with no functional purpose outside its value as a piece of narrative, and therefore cannot be judged by any metric one might use for mechanical aspects of the game." You're right about the nature of creativity, but there IS still a metric we can apply - the one meted out by Bioware itself, promising anything but an A, B, or C ending. When a creator fails to live up to their own stated metric, we can in fact call the work an objective failure.

SirApathetic005
SirApathetic005

@Animatronic64 Yeah but don't you think if this ending is changed that it will stray away from the actual origin of the story and only fall victim to, basically, something like fan fiction? You people want the ending changed to satisfy YOU "core fans" in a certain way. There are some endings that don't satisfy us but we are pleased anyway because of the journey to the end. I understand if you feel like an ending should be changed because you love it so much. But here's a thing a lot of people overlook: if this ending was to be changed, do you not think this will become a habit of "core fans" for other titles, and that they will start raging comment wars amongst one another on the internet, debating if or if not, how or why, the ending should be changed? This is the same nonsense that occurred with DLC and how they will sell you vital parts of the game that are canon to the story for $4.99 or more. Not just canon things, but also complete nonsense that makes you feel they sold you an incomplete game. Anyway, my point is that this sort of thing is a really big move and, in my opinion, doesn't "save" Mass Effect 3 from being anymore Mass Effect-e from any of the previous titles, because you're making an ending satisfy ONLY the "core fans," which is much like bringing fan-fiction to reality.

Gravity_Slave
Gravity_Slave

Consider your fans insight and criticism...but never break upon their demands. Other wise you lack integrity and conviction. Stand your ground Ken.

supa_stud
supa_stud

@Lordcrabfood lol nice way of turning things around from the point of my post. your probably the only person to not like a game series and continue to play it. you just saying that you finished all 3 games doesnt mean a thing to me as clearly your just a tw@

daschectron
daschectron

Im glad to hear that at least they do take into consideration the fans opinion on this one, i see no harm in changing the ending, like an alternativo ending as in many movie DVDs releases. I wish publishers could take into consideration the fans angriness when it comes to online servers going down or online fees... greedy pigs.

Hillsy_
Hillsy_

When I cured the Krogan's I thought they were going to take over the universe, then I let the Geth survive and thought Oh crap what have I done, later...apparently nothing. I actually wanted Shepard to destroy the reapers only for my decision to save the Krogan and/or Geth to result in all the other races being destroyed/defeated...

auto_immune
auto_immune

I'll be very surprised if upcoming DLC retcons anything.

Philly1UPer
Philly1UPer

In other news, Gamers who usually complain about DLC are now bending over and spreading their corn hole for Bioware for a future 15-20$ DLC that they will more then likely still not be satisfied with.

parrot_of_adun
parrot_of_adun

@ Enundr I just suggested you misused the word, nothing more. Anyway, a story, no mater how good or bad, is a creative effort. "Creative" isn't some sort of praise, it just describes a form of expression. It's just means it's separate from efforts like, say, creating netcode. I'm not praising the ending as original, or whatever you seem to think "creative" means, I'm just saying it's a work with no functional purpose outside its value as a piece of narrative, and therefore cannot be judged by any metric one might use for mechanical aspects of the game.

Lordcrabfood
Lordcrabfood

@supa_stud Played them all, cause i give games a chance b4 I judge, all equally suck. I am here onn this thread cause I live in a democracy and can do as I please. I like to be informed regardless of how I feel about certain games. Oh and what are u on about, try and get some reading comprehenion skills b4 u reply.

TigusVidiks
TigusVidiks

Crappy ending that turns a memorable trilogy candidate to a cult following, into just another videogame sequel. That's all I'm saying.

aermeus
aermeus

@supertom221 You keep saying im missing the point, but what I think you don't understand is that my point is just different from yours. Im not sure about your reasons for calling a game a product vs a book...they both sell millions to consumers. All I can say is this, read this gamespot article just posted...Kevin Levine expresses the exact same point i made and couldn't have summed it up better. http://www.gamespot.com/news/bioshock-creator-saddened-by-mass-effect-3-controversy-6367350

rey2
rey2

Let's face it. Any plans of making a new ending and making it a god annoying DLC will leave a bad taste to some of us. Another painful thought is that it maybe included in a game of the year edition which will most likely come out soon. I seriously doubt they'll give it out for free. Totally tripped at the finish line ending for the series.

altyendings
altyendings

does anyone here recall that when they revealed the game back at E3 2011 the devs said this would be the last Mass Effect game in the series? Either way both endings hint to another game unless im missing something here feel free to correct me.

G1Ga-B1T3
G1Ga-B1T3

@Gv0zD Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep sitting around trying to decide what to eat. Republic: A well armed Sheep contesting the vote. More on democracy: Democracy is nothing more than a mob ruling where 51% control the rights liberties and freedom of the other 49% Go ahead and marinate on that for a minute.

washington
washington

@Foxhound71 - They wont be selling me anything, because (like i said before) I liked the ending I got! I guess I can see everyones point in that the endings weren't changed at all based on your choices, but your choices from the past two games were reflected upon for the whole game prior to the ending, so this point kind of doesn't matter to me. Like I said I wanted a definitave ending to this trilogy and i felt thats what I got. I didnt have multiple playthroughs going on though, so I guess I could see somebody who transferred more than one playthrough with vastly different choices made being insulted by the lack of different endings.

Yannakos
Yannakos

God I REALLY hope they do something to help us potentially change the ending.. I really felt like no matter what decisions i made... and dont get me started on creating this galactic army... were totally irrelevant. As I would of experienced the same cut scenes whether I had 1500 military strength or over 7000+

alcaclarke
alcaclarke

Okay, I was very unhappy at the ending when I first finished this game. Now that time has passed I have lost interest altogether. In the end it's just a videogame and it means nothing. I spent countless hours on this game but will most likely never play Mass Effect again. I can't muster up the effort to make any choices in new playthroughs. All the choices mean nothing in the end. The last 15 minutes of ME3 destroyed three amazing games. This is why I don't care anymore. I don't care about a new ending and I don't care about new DLC.This has actually been a huge lesson for me. I used to spend a fotune on DLC but now I see how it is all just a cash grab. Plus ME3 was 20 hours shorter than ME1 andn ME2.

Valen_Ca
Valen_Ca

I am a bit torn when it comes to this, I haven't seen any of the endings because I haven't finished the game just yet, but if they do change it and charge for the new ending, doesn't this kind of thing set the precedent that it is ok with gamers that it is ok to release a game with a bad ending and then charge for a better one after the fact?

torres_unix
torres_unix

Directing ones anger at Bioware IMO isn't totally the right thing to do, one should direct it at EA, they're the ones behind this whole mess. They're the ones who have the last word and force the assimilated developers to do their bidding. To EA games are NOT art, they are all about PROFIT.

supa_stud
supa_stud

@Lordcrabfood what are you on about? when did i say my opinion was different from yours? you just said you didnt like the game and im basically saying why are you here reading about a game you say you dont like. now tell me again how am i disagreeing with you? im not im just wondering why your on this thread discussing a game you most probably havnt played, and if you played the first and thought this then why bother with the other 2?

Sendmn23
Sendmn23

how about a "refund" and an apology? how about that?

arijit_unreal
arijit_unreal

I thorougly enjoyed the game. What I didnt like were a few details with the ending. Not only are there many blanks but there are so many contradictions. Some things they show in the ending are illogical. They contradict the previous two titles [and even itself]. If they do decide to change the ending... I'm not sure whether I want to pay for it .... I don't care what happened to earth and what happened to other alien races and all :P But what really startled me was what happened with the crew of Normandy in the end, or whatever little they showed in the cinematic. Doesnt make sense...

stan_boyd
stan_boyd

LOL everyone is complaining that the ending doesn't give you closure, of course it doesn't if they gave you closure you wouldn't have NEED to buy the 15 DLC packs that they are gonna push on you for 20 bucks each, and each DLC will leave you a cliffhanger to keep stringing you along, cmon its an EA game everyone should know their nickel and dime tactics by now.

DarkPhoneix85
DarkPhoneix85

I really hope Bioware doesn't change the endings of Mass Effect 3. l've played the game, and even thou yeah, the endings are somewhat disappointing when it comes to someone's expectations of what they should have gotten, but consider this. You don't ask a movie director to change the ending of their movie you hated, you don't ask a musician to change the part of a song you thought was crap, so where do people get off telling Bioware to change their game's ending? it's their vision, their story they created, we're only along for the ride!

Lordcrabfood
Lordcrabfood

@Gv0zD A democracy is where u r free to stare YOUR opinion without fear of reprisals. You don't have to agree with me, but that is MY opinion.

Gv0zD
Gv0zD

@Lordcrabfood Democracy, my friend, is when people come to compromise and mtual understanding through discussion. Domination of any opinion is totalitarian and dictatorship

MajinSquall
MajinSquall

i'm hoping if they do change it they will just do it through free DLC i don't want to have to pay for something they decided to change

Lordcrabfood
Lordcrabfood

@Sigil-otaku Yes. my criticisms can apply to all most any game, that does not alter the fact of how Mass Effect appealed to me. The fact was I found the series incredibly boring. Uncharted???, don't get me started on that garbage.

Lordcrabfood
Lordcrabfood

@supa_stud I don't know about you but I live in a democracy where you are free to state your own opinion, if my opinion happens to be deifferent to yours, then that, my friend is your problem.

ebonyflame
ebonyflame

Yeah, don't change the ending. Offer alternatives in a DLC pack. But first, how about fixing the import face bug in ME3? I want my Shepard to save the galaxy.

Gv0zD
Gv0zD

Phoenix, are you so naive?

Phoenix6359
Phoenix6359

If it isn't free I will be disgusted by Bioware.

Vaultdweller108
Vaultdweller108

considering that destroying a mass relay basically destroys the ENTIRE SYSTEM their way to get galactic peace is to blow every last you now wat up.

Szeiden
Szeiden

@Gv0zD Completely different. Why? It's implausible for bioware to have hugely different endings for ME1 or ME2 because it would be extremely difficult to produce subsequent titles in the storyline if the endings of the previous games were open to drastic variation. ME3 on the other hand? This problem of continuing the story off of many different endings is no longer a problem.

Gv0zD
Gv0zD

Regarding endings... In ME1 we killed Saren. No matter what we did we had to kill Saren. And we were shown the destruction of Sovereign. Even if we chose to save or kill the council, we were shown nearly the same video. And in the end we were shown Shepard standing in front of the red/blue planet... In ME2 no matter what we did we had to kill Human Reaper. We were shown the collector base exploding in a blue/red explosion depending on what we chose. And we were shown Illusive Man sitting in front of blue/red star. We were shown nearly the same video. No one has ever complained and demanded BW change those endings. I have completed both previous games for five times each. I should feel robbed ten times! But I don't. Now we were shown the blue/red/green explosions and what? Your eyes finally opened?! It took three times at least to finally get BioWare loves playing with different colours and same videos?! And regarding Mass Relays destruction. In ME2 when we learn that Collectors are repurposed Protheans, Mordin states that no technology should be used ahead of the certain demand occurs. "can't catch food - invent spear, can't carry the weight - invent wheel. Limitations! No limitations - no progress!" He actually hints that in order to evolve and develop intensively, the galactic nations should invent those technologies themselves, not exploit what is granted and what they can not fully understand.

intellijo
intellijo

@sixgears2 - agreed. they already painted themselves as EA-puppets so far by demanding a payment for dlc that was already on-disk, so it would be the ONLY way for them to improve their perception.

sixgears2
sixgears2

@intellijo Unless it's free... And it really must be free if it's going to improve BioWare's image instead of just making them look like greedy cash grabbers.

intellijo
intellijo

@sixgears2 - i hope they do six, i really hope they do. No matter how genius that indoctrination ending would be though, i now have to pay ANOTHER $10 for the explanation of the end of a game that I ALREADY BOUGHT.

sixgears2
sixgears2

@Sandmand201 First off, you should really label comments like that as spoilers so you don't ruin the already crappy ending for others. -----SPOILERS!!!!---- No, they can't just fix the Mass Relays. They were built by the Reapers and are thousands of years ahead of even the most advanced civilizations in the Mass Effect universe. Besides, ME2's Arrival DLC taught us that destroying a Mass Relay destroys the entire system that it's in, meaning that ME3's ending essentially wipes out every major system in the galaxy. Yet another problem in an ending full of them.

intellijo
intellijo

@SANDMAN201 - SPOILERS!!! - Why, yes SANDMAN201, no matter what your choice, the entire universe is raped and ended. I'm alright with a sacrifice/bittersweet ending. But no matter what you do, the universe ends in abrutally depressing/no real positive victory. The relays are DESTROYED, they can't fix them.