Billionaire tech exec is "disturbed" by kids who play games all day

Oracle CEO Larry Ellison says, "When I was a kid the sun rose, I was on my bike, and if my parents were lucky I was home before dark."

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Billionaire Oracle CEO Larry Ellison, who has made a fortune selling a range of enterprise products, is "disturbed" by the way in which video games cause some children to stay indoors all day.

"I am so disturbed by kids who spend all day playing video games," Ellison said during the HCM World conference in Las Vegas this week as reported by PC World. "When I was a kid the sun rose, I was on my bike, and if my parents were lucky I was home before dark."

Ellison argued that children are drawn to video games, as opposed to real-world activities, because they are easier to take up.

"People have chosen games where there's a virtual ball rather than a real ball, and they prefer virtual games to real games because they're easy," he added.

Ellison's daughter Megan Ellison served as a producer on Spike Jonze's future-set movie Her, which posits a future of highly sophisticated and all-encompassing artificial intelligence systems. The movie also depicts video games as more seamless and engaging than anything available today. Ellison said he enjoyed this movie, but pointed out that this kind of advanced technology can be a double-edged sword.

"Your game playing is more fun because you're more successful, in virtual reality," Ellison said. "The impact of technology on children, right now in different aspects of our lives, is sometimes fabulous, and sometimes terrible."

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501 comments
revan292
revan292

So he can suddenly decide what kids/or even people, can or can't do with their own lives? Time to get over it and drop that supremacist attitude.
  Of course too much of anything is bad, but that goes for BOTH sides, not just video games.  Irregardless focus on your OWN life, not meddling with what others find preferable.

I almost laughed when i read "they prefer virtual games to real games because they're easy,".  Uhh... no s**t ;D It's called entertainment, and if he had any sense of reality with life lessons, he'd know that people/human nature prefers entertainment of the irritatingly difficult failures of real life, which is why such entertainment exists in the first place, to remove that intolerable wall of head bashing failure/difficulty and replace it with relaxation and entertainment.

rinker03
rinker03

I also spent a lot of time outside but gained little benefit from the activities besides exercise.  How can someone say running around outside all day is a better activity than another.  I have read some recent research stating that gaming has some benefits.  I do believe my children need to be healthy/fit and they do need to be engaged in social settings, but that doesn't mean they need to be MIA outside all day.  It is just the parent's responsibility to ensure that our children are social and healthy.  It amazes me that when someone sees another child playing games all day they assume that they are unsociable due to the fact that they game all day...It is the parents fault for not ensuring that they are up to par with social skills.  Generally the same parents skirt their responsibilities and just say "my child is really smart."  Congratulations, you raised a nerd or fatty because you couldn't teach your child to be accepted in social settings or treat their body right.  All parents have lived in the real world and know the effect of being singled out or unnoticed.  These parents insist to be ignorant to the fact that it is their fault. 

gostor_lives
gostor_lives

why dont he shove that billion dollar finger up his ass

gamemaven
gamemaven

"When I was a kid the sun rose, I was on my bike, and if my parents were lucky I was home before dark." Well no shit shirlock what else did you have to do? Not that I disagree that there are kids that play too much video games, but it's a really poor example to compare a 50s generation to present. What a dipshit.

bmart970
bmart970

I've never understood how people can just play games all of the time. There have been a couple of days that I've played for far longer than I probably should have, but I normally get bored and go do something constructive.

dhsk8sb
dhsk8sb

He is completely right. If not going out side, pick up a hobby, learn a skill, read an educational book. Im in my last semester of engineering school and would have had an easier time if in my teens i spent more time learning or reading on new skills. Love video games and its why im here. But too much of anything is bad.

chippiez
chippiez

Problem is, Larry ol pal, you and I could ride off for the entire day when we were kids and our parents didn't have to worry about the pedos and thugs out there.  Nowadays, kids aren't allowed 50 feet from their house without parental supervision.  


Games allow them to escape into a world they can explore.  So basically, fuk u pal!

overlord_hh
overlord_hh

He is right on so many levels.. do gaming to pass the time sometimes but not all the time.

Sl4cka
Sl4cka

And I am "disturbed" by your haircut. So, what are we going to do about it?

streamline
streamline

I'm disturbed by kids who are forced to stay out all day and the only thing they can do to pass time is to cause mischief. It's not all fun and games out there. Hopefully he's not one of those parents that tell his kids to go outside and not care what they do.

naryanrobinson
naryanrobinson

Behind Apple, Oracle are the biggest patent trolls in the world.

I don't have time for anything its CEO says.

Kunasha
Kunasha

Hi Larry.

May I challenge you to a game of Dark Souls?

All you have to do is reach the end of it. Just once.


The actual truth here is that some people prefer video games to sports because video games require more brain, while some are the opposite because sports require more brawn. It's like the age-old chess vs. football debate.

TimberWolf_CLT
TimberWolf_CLT

I must confess that I've never liked Ellison nor his business practices.  He's always been a publicity hound and this seems like yet another "look at me" moment.   

As for the veracity of his comments, he has some points, but why is this even news-worthy?


DWalker131
DWalker131

awwwww..... whats the matter larry ? not enough kids in the park for you to  play with ? lol

Karchy
Karchy

It's because capitalists like you made this world unbalanced and dangerous..

LJNkickstarter
LJNkickstarter

Kids should go outside with Guardians, I rather have a kid play video games all day than worrying all day wandering where the heck are they actually are. Indoors are safe place for kids you know. 

berserker66666
berserker66666

When I was a kid, there was no internet so I had to manually write letters and send it to the postman. Now.....there's internet so I can just send e-mails from home. Everything's becoming more convenient as tech becomes better day-by-day, including entertainment. You cannot linger in the past Larry.

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

I agree with him but not necessarily as to the why part, the fact is video games much like television is used as a babysister or even worse ad hoc parent. From single moms and dads, to parents that have to work 2 jobs just to make it, or simply bad parent-s kids are allowed to play video games. Which can be alot more entertaining then TV, or books. Simply, some parent,s instead of fixing a meal and making their child eat vegetables will let them eat chicken nuggets and little Debbie cakes all day, instead of the doing the hard thing and parenting the child and saying no. My kids are allowed one soda at dinner time only- strict instructions that no soda allowed at school, I always have a vegetable, fruit, and complex carb usually a grain for every meal. Both of us are RNs so saying no is easy.


When I grew up I had a lot of chores to do, then homework with plenty of time for fun, play, exercise (well back then work was plenty enough exercise). But also my parents played card games, board, and video games with us - I knew how to play every sport, card games, board games, and video games by the time I hit high school and college. They taught me how to cook (I do not mean mac and chesse I mean really cook), sew, do home repairs, and electrical work. I have never called a home repair man in my life. 


Today I work my ass off just to have 1-2 hrs a day and 3-4 hours thursday evening and weekend to play video games with my d&d friends. The problem is shitty parents have given up, and they push their dumb, lazy, do not know how to do anything kids off on most of the good parents. They hold other kids back, they expect everything but put in nothing, and cannot fix anything when it breaks. If you want to stop kids from playing video games all day take a belt to their asses and then to the parents. Their is absolutely nothing wrong with a 6 hour WoW raid - if life responsibilities are fulfilled first.  

ceromaster
ceromaster

In my own experiences pple who say kids play too many video games are: old and rich, manic party-goers whose idea of human interaction is being the source of attention, jocks and health junkies who do nothing but work out and post pictures of themselves on facebook or instagram, hypocritical older pple or young pple who don't go outside or do much socializing themselves.

Creed02
Creed02

Larry : I just can't digest today's reality because i suck at video games... 

vadagar1
vadagar1

give me a billion dollars and I would travel around the world


but since i get 6000$  a year I kinda have to stay at home so I wont starve or freeze to death :D


also I don't like car bombs, it kinda ruins the whole going out to party all day and night, I just realized I live in hell....


people living in nice countries read my comment and thank whomever u worship every day because you are lucky little shits.


Darth_Aloysius
Darth_Aloysius

Ha, videogames aren't the issue these days. Its hilariously addictive comment sections like this one that keep me from going outside...

bhop123
bhop123

Which is the honest truth. You have parents putting their children in front of tv's because its a substitute for a babysitter. I think a lot more children are smarter because of this new technology. But, that is why lots young people have crappy social skills. I have many friends who play video games all day, and sit in front of the tv. Yes, its fun on friday nights. But do they talk to girls, no. do they have a normal social life? no they don't. Its sad. Males are not what they used to be. I'm a young adult, and i already know this. 

deth420
deth420

When i was younger i went out all the time too.  Then as i got older i realized everyone is an asshat, so i stopped going out.

sweeten16
sweeten16

He isn't really wrong. I was out everyday when I was younger and my n64 and ps2 were only something I played at night sometimes.

th3onewhoknocks
th3onewhoknocks

Billionaires think they can say what they want, I read about him, he is a loser and he only got rich because he sued Microsoft for 30 billion dollars.

Call me when you make money by hard work and not a lawsuit.

effing loser

Dnt tell me what to do, all the money I have made is hard earned, and there is nothing wrong with kids playing video games, I rather have safe in the house playing, than to expose them to drugs and violence.

Hurvl
Hurvl

Most kids today don't play games all day and the games today can't compete with some things you can do IRL, like parkour.

thrombosis45
thrombosis45

Loving all the comments from fat, lazy kids who don't even understand the concept of going outside. "omg he would be just as fat and lazy as us if he had games.." this is pathetic....just stop being fat okay..

jellyman68
jellyman68

@naryanrobinson  I guess you've never heard of a couple of companies called Google and Samsung. Both are just as bad as Apple, if not worse.

jellyman68
jellyman68

@KunashaYour comment would be closer to the truth if it said "The actual truth here is that some people prefer video games to sports because video games require less physical activity."


Actual sports require more brain and brawn than video games. For a start, you have to work out an intelligent training programme to reach a higher level of physical fitness, which in itself can require hundreds of hours of research and debating to work out. If you manage to get stronger and faster than your opponents, you still have to outthink them. There's no pause button or save game to reload if it all goes wrong either.  Most of the time you only get one chance to succeed. 

lilflipp
lilflipp

@LJNkickstarter Strength in numbers. When I was growing we would go outside rally up a bunch of kids from the neighborhood and we go off and see the world and whatever was out there to poke our interest we would check it out. We were a force to reckon with. A dozen kids that watch each others back make things really safe, especially when we had our hockey gear! We could get really loud if we wanted.


At age, you haven't learned or seen anything so everything is fascinating. Whatever happened to just sitting in the yard and digging a fucking hole. Or you guys remember just observing to see wtf they do, observe a line of ants carrying food and following them to see where they go.

These are the things that we see less and less, because video games have all this exciting stuff happening on the screen.

The cool thing is that, there is no script. It's the ultimate open world sandbox.


The key is balance.

Nepti
Nepti

@th3onewhoknocks Not singling you out because it's been brought up a zillion times in this thread. But the whole 'he's a rich guy so I'm not listening to him' is a straw man argument. If missing the point is the goal, focusing on 'Billionaire' or 'rich' or 'CEO' is success I guess.


I'm not rich. I'm not a CEO. I'm just a regular schmuck. But I'll say it too. Kids who play games all day every day, that's disturbing. This, coming from a person who loves gaming since dinosaurs roamed the Earth playing on Atari 2600's.

3dmatrixgamer
3dmatrixgamer

@th3onewhoknocks Do u have any proof or link he sued MS for 30 billion dollars because i google it but couldn't find what u said.

bhop123
bhop123

@th3onewhoknocks  I understand your point, and there is nothing wrong with being inside playing video games. but keeping your kid inside to become a hermit isnt a good thing either. Exposing them to the outside world is a good thing. Its about life experiences. I wouldnt want my kids talking about how much fun they had on xbox their whole lives.

Nepti
Nepti

@Hurvl unfortunately for you, a great number of stats out there, worldwide, suggest otherwise. But forget about stats because somebody is already brewing up a comment against me with some anti-stat. Just take a look around, kids are overweight all over the world. What's changed since the kids of the 70s? What's changed is technology. Virtual worlds for the nerdy types and 'social media' for the 'cool kids.' Technology has this way of inhibiting movement. Everything from being completely still to people wondering into mall fountains while texting.

Karlinel
Karlinel

@Hurvl  So true, everytime I try to go to a GAME store, I have to wait until the parkouring horde of kids pass by. And then they won't sell me any games if I don't do a perfect handstand on the counter.

Kunasha
Kunasha

@jellyman68 @Kunasha  No, you don't have to do that. When you reach a high enough level where that becomes super important, you have a trainer which will do it for you. Making training programmes at low levels is pretty trivial, actually.

Your comment about pause buttons is correct... until you start playing competitive video games in tournaments.

I've played professional StarCraft 2. That is exhausting, believe me, and it follows everything you claim about actual sports to exactly the same extent as, say, Table Tennis does.

LJNkickstarter
LJNkickstarter

@bhop123  As a gamer parent i agree and inside vs outside should be balance. But i also want my kids to have a nostalgic memories playing video games in the future. 

Hurvl
Hurvl

@Karlinel @HurvlHandstands are not parkour to me, parkour are about getting across obstacles smoothly, quickly, efficiently - can't do that with a handstand (that's more showing off). Now, if they asked you to do a kong precision (youtube it if you don't know what it is) over the counter to a table, that would have been something. 

In my previous comment, I was referring to the ease of movement and variety of ways to get across an area, something where games are still lacking. Walk, run and jump are still almost the only options in almost every games. I can save the world a hundred times in games, but it feels really good to be able to show an accomplishment without needing to start a computer game.

naryanrobinson
naryanrobinson

@jellyman68 Google gets sued by Oracle.  Samsung gets sued by Apple.

There are exceptions to these fundamental laws of physics, but being involved in a patent case doesn't make you a patent troll.  Being typically Oracle and Apple does.

jellyman68
jellyman68

@naryanrobinson Yes they are. The "patent trolling" as you put it is a standard practice in these large companies and they're all about as bad as each other. When somebody claims that one company in particular is the worst for it, they're really just revealing their own particular dislike for that company. 

Kunasha
Kunasha

@jellyman68 @Kunasha I ran less than most people you know? So most people you know run 30 miles a week? What kind of friends do you have? Marathon runners, the whole lot?


Would you kindly stop making yourself look like a total and utter idiot? That'd be real fantastic.

jellyman68
jellyman68

@Kunasha So you played a bit of ping pong and ran less than most people I know per week and you think you're qualified to start saying that video games require more intelligence  than sports? Your words reveal how little you know about the subject. I don't need to see any more. 

Kunasha
Kunasha

@jellyman68 @Kunasha  I run 10 miles 3 times a week every summer. I could prove it to you, but then I'd be forced to tell you who I am in real life, and I don't want to do that. Before I started Starcraft 2, which I have since stopped, I spent a ton of my time swimming and playing table tennis, and got to a high level in the latter as well. I never did turn professional, but I did participate in a national championsship without being pushed over, so there's that.


I have no reason to argue with someone whose best argument basically amounts to a personal attack telling me how little I know when he has no chance to know himself how much I know about it. It's a waste of time. Bye!

jellyman68
jellyman68

@Kunasha  You should probably try running 5 miles, lifting weights for an hour, and then sparring for 12 rounds before claiming that StarCraft 2 is in any way exhausting. If you gas out when playing any video game, you've got serious cardio issues and are in no position to say that "Making training programmes at low levels is pretty trivial, actually."


You absolutely have to condition yourself from the beginning to stand any chance of success in a sport (not a game like darts, snooker, or StarCraft.) It is just as important as skill and natural ability, and is extremely difficult to get right.