Intriguing trailer to say the least, hope its a good one!
Stonerkid i agree that oblivion and fallout 3 are great games but it would get damn boring if developers who made great games only ever made new ones to the same formula.
If developers have shown their ability to create good games, then i think we should encourage them to push boundaries of innovation. This of course will lead to some 'stinkers' but it will be worth it if there are then new, completely unique, innovative games. :)
Great move, sounds like another DLC for us. Plus, Bethesda better keep developing things about Oblivion and FallOut coz these 2 franchises are a must for years to come. if i were at Bethesda, i'd start working on Oblivion's Game Engine :D
the best move would be to keep all future fallout and eldar scroll games exactly the way they are. There last 2 relases fallout 3 is perfect highly advanced grapichs and oblivion highly advanced grapichs dont really have to say highly advanced gameplay cause anyone who played them both would have no doubt that there gameplay is supreme. thats my 2 cents changeing those games would be like nukeing the earth theres no point in it
doesn't sound like bethesda is leaving much time or many resources to develop a single player TES5.
and @shawnanthony - at least oblivion was unique in that. in japanese rpgs the boys look like girls :P
no both as an MMO would be dreadful. fallout would be hailed as a tabula rasa rebound. oblivion wouldnt work either as its world is to vast for current teams to develope in any reasonable time frame let alone upkeep on servers. both would have too much work in them to do without pulling a ff11 (and going against its established grain in the wood).
and furthermore anyone who hails a game as a WoW clone with no INDISPUTABLE evidence is an ignorant fool who cannot be reasoned with or is 13 years old (roughly).
The smart move would be to keep elder scrolls single player and make fallout a MMO. If they decide to do the elder scrolls it will end up being too similar to the way world of warcraft plays. Fallout would be somthing completely different.
Ok maybe my last comment was slightly misleading. I meant that making a new franchise would be awesome. I agree with everyone else that is shouldn't be solely MMO because that would be a stupid idea. I also would like it to be free but I have a feeling it won't...
I agree with MuddVader and everyone that says that Elder Scrolls should be kept single-player. The Elder Scrolls story is good, but much of the incentive to get the next in the series would disappear if the ''do whatever you want to'' element would be hampered. Besides, there wouldn't be any monthly fees (considering Bethesda's reputation there most certainly will be) if it's single-player.
I thought of a bunch of stuff to write, but people obviously dont like the stuff i say considering the red marks i get lol. so i'll say something simple, It would be a foolish mistake of the company, with their current fan base being strong, to take the game completely in a different direction when the reason they have those fans is because of their amazing single player games. They would be genius to take a simple hint from the FF series and say, "Online isnt the final solution" and were to continue with their games long after the MMO is released if indeed there is one to take place in the Elder Scrolls Universe. In other words, regardless, an MMO shouldnt be the final chapter in the TES series because its unethical to change genre for a final game when most of your fans arent just fans because of the story, but more the gameplay and freedom the game allows to do thing what when and how you wish.
Ozmosus: Yeah, Bethseda was leasing(or some other legal process that I don't understand) the rights for a Fallout MMO to Interplay, the original developer of the Fallout games. Interplay dropped the ball though, and Bethesda took it away(again, some legal stuff that I don't get). I would assume that they've decided to do it themselves.
Hawkeye456: Seems likely.
hmmm...at work on an MMO? well.. Bethesda announced they were going to make another elder scrolls quite a while ago now after Fallout 3 was released.. is this the new Elder Scrolls perhaps? I sure as hell hope so!!! :D
It would certainly be an interesting take on the series, and hopefully would be as good as Oblivion was :)
As far as I know Bethesda does not have the rights to make a Fallout MMO. Some other guys bought the rights to do that... can't remember which ones it was tho. Only thing I remember is that they bought the rights for the game and hired one of the big guys behind the original Fallout games.
... or something like that
I want to add something more, ok i don't say and elder scroll mmo will not be good but all fans of mmo's already playing on great mmo's like wow,aoc,warhammer,ffxi and others. And i don't thing they are in a hurry to just go and say ok i don't care for all the thousand hours i spent for this mmo i want to just throw everything and go to elder scrolls mmo.
And second elder scrolls is and mazing single player, if they are dying to do something online do multiplayer not mmo dammit.
On the other hand i think i undestand why many developer go and do mmo's this days cause with pirating and the economic crysis we have they just don't have the guts to just risk another great sp i mean face it there is more chance got more money and for longer time from an mmo.
They better not screw up the Elder Scroll franchise by making it a MMOG. That's what's happening to KOTOR. :( It would kinda ruin the fantasy for me to see an elf being controlled by some 12-year old going around tea bagging a bunch of dead guards.
@MuddVader: Assuming you're right, that this break to make an Elder Scrolls MMO (if it is in fact an Elder Scrolls MMO and not some new IP) does not spell the end for the Elder Scrolls series of single-player RPGS (a la Final Fantasy as opposed to WarCraft), then there is truly little for me to complain about.
That said, there are still a FEW things I can complain about that I think are worth mentioning. The first and foremost of these being that any time they spend making this MMO will have, as others here have mentioned, the "Blizzard Effect" of slowing down (if not outright stopping) the development of other games in the series, potentially. The other thing for me is, and I'll freely admit it shows how much of a dork I am for this series I've come to know and love, but I couldn't help but feel like an MMO would mess up the canon something awful. Much in the way WoW has created this dilemma of "where do we go now?" for the universe, I can't imagine that creating a persistent game with a changing world would leave much room for creating a separate game, in the same world, with a definitive statement on what happens when this MMO ceases to be. In case that last bit didn't make a whole lot of sense, let me rephrase it by asking: how do we pick up a story set in this world from scratch for TESV without finishing the story of the MMO with a firm ending for the tales of these 100,000 or however many heroes? Maybe set it in the past? I don't know, but it'd be weird and awkward unless done with Shakespearean grace.
I really wouldn't be surprised if it is a elder scrolls mmo all the lore, Continent's,weapons,races, i really wouldnt be surprised ive played them all lol it would be kwl if they made it like the other games a fps/rpg/mmo and not a another 3rd person mmo i want something different! lol
Maybe Gamespot is wrong(imagine that), and this MMO is the Fallout MMO that Interplay screwed up.
Either way, there had better be a single player ES as well. It doesn't have to come soon, but it has to come before or alongside either MMO. I think it should get priority now, after they finish all this DLC.
Instead of an Elder Scrolls MMO they should just add a multiplayer/LAN component to the existing Elder Scrolls formula just to add a co-op element, similar to something like Diablo II. Making an Elder Scrolls MMO would be taking it too far, the series is most enjoyable as a single player focused game.
Get Elder scrolls 4 on the PC. Proceed to download about 200 mods to get all the rubbish out of it. After afew hours work, bingo, There is your eldar scrolls 5.
Seriously though. Oblivion on PC with mod's is amazing, (terrible on consoles vanilla) They would have their work cut out for them topping what you can do with the game now.
Elder Scrolls is one of my all time favorite series. That being said, I would be completely up for an Elder Scrolls MMO. I have high expectations in MMO's however, being an endgame raider in WoW during burning crusade. As long as it is a great game, has a group component like instances/raiding I think Elder Scrolls is a prime candidate for an MMO. I would be very disappointed if ES: V was an MMO however. If they sacrifice the single player epic ES games for the MMO that would really annoy me. Playing MMO's and raiding is fun, but sometimes it's nice to just relax, play a single player game, do things at your own pace, pause the game when you get hungry, etc. It's been several years since Oblivion came out. Let's hear an announcent about the next ES soon Bethesda.
@RoboWizard: I don't agree with this sudden sprint to the multiplayer world of gaming. Don't get me wrong, I like certain games that survive off the multiplayer aspect, but the ES series would not feel the same if it were an MMO. On top of that, I think casual gamers are attracted to MP gaming opposed to SP, which is why companies are slashing into it. Just look how much money Blizzard pulls in with WoW ... and if you play WoW you will notice that 3 quarters of the people you play with our young gamers, often VERY young. This is why they make so much money, and this is why Bethesda and Bioware are "tapping into the MMO world." As much as we don't like the concept, it will probably happen. I just hope they don't take the ES series and throw it there. Bethesda SHOULD be smart enough to just create an all new franchise if and when they go MMO. Then they can simply reel in the cash to create that ES: V game we are anxiously waiting for. Aside of Dragon Age: Origins, I would be stoked if Bioware would begin to construct another Baldur's Gate title. ES and Baldur's Gate are two of the best SP RPG series in my opinion, hands down.
@RoboWizard, not to sounds rude, but dont play it than.
In any case, i'm pretty sure that there will be a fifth oblivion and that this is just a whole nother project that they are going to use the Oblivion world for, I really doubt it, but imagine how insane an MMO would be if it had the fighting system of Oblivion, it would be amazing if they could pull that off with No more ATB bs, just good old fatigue and magika limiting what you can do. Though for people like you Robowizard, just pay no mind to this game, I'm sure the next true addition to the Elder Scrolls series will be just as great and single player aswell just like Oblivion, but with the next one i hope there is a form of multiplayer, because personally i think it would be insane to delve into dungeons and battle powerful monsters with pals.
@RoboWizard: Agreed wholeheartedly... while I wouldn't say I don't have the time for MMOs, per se, I'd rather play a diverse selection of games than feel tied to one because I'm paying a subscription fee for it. I also reject the notion that gaming HAS to be a social experience... sometimes I come home from work and don't want anything to do with anyone and would rather just play a single player game. And I don't really see too much of a point to MMOs anyway... it's sortof like after you beat GTA and you just run around blowing stuff up. As fun as that is, Rockstar wouldn't get my $60 if it didn't have the single player component and they surely wouldn't get a subscription fee.
Personally, I'd rather see another single player RPG from Bethesda than an MMO... like a new Sea Dogs or even a new IP. I'd really like to see Bethesda so a samurai game... sortof like Way of the Samurai meets Fallout 3.
Back in the days of Morrowind, I never would have thought that single player gaming would be such dying niche, yet here we are. To the best of my knowledge, there are only two companies that make good western RPGs these days (Bioware and Bethesda), and now I come to find out that they're both trying to tap into the saturated MMO market I have no interest of participating in.
I understand that some think it's close-minded of me to "knock it before I've tried it," but here's the deal: I have a job and am a full-time college student with virtually no time to kick back and enjoy games, so when I get the opportunity, I enjoy it, but I could never see myself having enough time to justify commititng regular payments, effectively forcing me to find to play the game so I don't waste my investment. I'm sure my situation holds for a lot of people.
Beyond that, I just really want a good immersive single-player experience, and specifically a fifth Elder Scrolls game that sticks to the proven formula of "do anything you want in this massive world with real lasting consequences." As opposed to any MMO, that requires a suspension of disbelief on the part of the player every time they slay some demon, only to have it spawn again in a minute.
yeah i wouldnt want a MMO, if i did, id play WOW, and ive never played WOW, because i dont like MMO. I love elderscrolls just the way it is. If theres a way to play single player, as well as online , im down. I dont care really as long as i have my own single experience.
Okassar, there's nothing wrong with judging the IDEA of an Elder Scrolls MMO... my opinion on the THOUGHT of an Elder Scrolls MMO is "Bethesda, please don't ruin a good thing!" For me, the Elder Scrolls series is the best series of RPG games, making the 5th one an MMO would cut short that glorious sequence of amazing games. I love MMOs, but I love offline RPGs as well and I don't want the would-be next greatest RPG to be an MMO. I'll leave that to SWtOR.
Thats the end of the elder scrolls series..Look at how long it took blizzard to make diablo 3 an starcraft..SInce wow came out it was on the back burner..Elder scrools is there money maker..Why do this..There is enough mmorpgs out in the market..The only one ive been interested at all of is star trek online...Let the mmorpg market die already..
As gamers, we shouldn't be so conservative,we should open up to new ideas that developers think will work out. If Bethesda plans on making an Elder Scrolls MMO, don't judge the idea until the actual game is released. Good God.
It would ruin the Elder Scrolls series if they would make it into an mmo.It just would not feel right, and It being single player only is one of the reasons I like the Elder Scrolls.Its nice not having people running around calling everyone noobs as well as not having to deal with monthly fees, and many other things as well.Plus it feels like a much more unique experience.another thing is that most mmo games stories are pretty shallow if they really have one at all and the Elder Scrolls games are sorta known for the exact opposite of that... so hopefully they are not.Thought I doubt they will or are.but if they do or are maybe it will stand out from other mmo games that are currently out.