Bethesda has no plans for Wii U

Marketing exec at Elder Scrolls studio not yet convinced about Nintendo's new console, believes current-gen not holding devs back, next-gen presents problems.

Bethesda had a minimal footprint on Nintendo's popular Wii console (its only US release was Star Trek: Conquest), and it does not appear that the Elder Scrolls and Fallout publisher has more ambitious plans in place for the Wii U. In a new MCV interview (via Videogamer), Bethesda marketing executive Pete Hines said the company mantra has been, and continues to be, that it will launch games on platforms that support them.

Bethesda isn't too keen on the Wii U.

"So far the Wii hasn't fitted into that," Hines said. "Whether Wii U does down the road is [to be determined]."

The Wii U may miss out on more major franchises than just Bethesda's. Capcom's Resident Evil 6 is not scheduled for the new console, nor is Electronic Arts' Dead Space 3.

Hines also took time in the interview to compare current- and next-generation consoles. He claimed existing platforms are not holding developers back, adding there is still room to expand on visuals, technical capabilities, and storytelling. He also said the current "huge" install base of users is an advantage the current generation has over future platforms.

Hines cautioned that new platforms could be problematic for multiple reasons, the first of which stems from technological concerns.

"For me the problems with new consoles are two-fold," he added. "The developers are trying to hit a moving technical target, because the platforms are being built. A new console doesn't just show up a year before launch and is exactly what it will be when it comes out. It moves and iterates along the way. And introducing something like that to games that are in development is always a bit tricky. And that is obviously an element of risk."

The second reason Hines is less than elated about future platforms is that their arrival may splinter an existing audience.

"Your install base always starts at zero," he said. "Then it comes out and suddenly a certain number of people buy it but it won't be the same number as the current gen. So you have divided your audience."

Ultimately, Hines said the technological advancements future platforms may afford will be "exciting," but he cautioned this progress "comes at a price."

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Eddie Makuch is a news editor at GameSpot, and would like to see the Whalers return to Hartford.

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kreegan64
kreegan64

Has Bethesda EVER supported a Nintendo console? I would have actually been surprised if they released ES or Fallout on the Wii U; they're too focused on pushing technology, and the Wii U doesn't seem like a big enough jump for them.

Heirren
Heirren

Of course 3rd parties aren't all convinced. Nintendo doesn't support dlc to the extent of the other two. Is really as simple as that.

Mr__Maniacal
Mr__Maniacal

Bethesda an every other damn company will only move forward when Microsoft tells then they have to. that's why every game is on every platform and each is ....720p.

total Fucking Bullshit

Mr__Maniacal
Mr__Maniacal

god forbid if this Phucking Poossee has to put forth effort and upgrade his machines. i hope you all see what these Phags are doing to you.

1080p tv

Suped up console w 3d Capabilities

Kick ass sound system

 

where are the games made for these devices? oh that's right. only from those who make the console are willing to put the work in.

IanNottinghamX
IanNottinghamX

Developers lately have a tendency to distance themselves from new consoles saying stuff like " We'll wait and see how well it sells, the games etc". That all seems sort of bs from the gamers perspective because we know there are always going to be new consoles to replace the old ones. What it sounds like to me is there may be some sort of financial risk associated with making a game near launch of a system...But for some reason they probably wont say that.....

ljspeece
ljspeece

Bethesda doesn't want to play?...so be it.  And, there will be other developers who may shy away from the new Wii U console as well.  However, being a gamer at 62 years old, I do believe Nintendo's new console will be a success.  I have no allegiance to any one specific console manufacturer...not now or in the past.  Since I still own most of the consoles that have made it to market, I can safely say that I have, and continue to enjoy the gaming experiences each one provides.

 

Nintendo has provided unique experiences that are, at least in my case, considered revolutionary.  The Wii has been a phenomenal success.  I have just ordered The Last Story that has received rave reviews.  My real concern with the Wii U is the cost of entry.  I have reached the point where $349. is out of my price range, not forgetting the average price of a game at $59.99.  Once prices drop in time, and they will, I then may purchase their latest and greatest console/games.

 

I apply the same limitations on the upcoming consoles from Sony and Microsoft.  Their current gen systems are excellent in their own right (I own the consoles, past and present, of both companies).  Purchasing their next-gen consoles will present the same dilemma I have encountered with the Wii U.  

 

The bottom line is that I have sincerely enjoyed video gaming since nearly its inception.  Developers have come and gone...it is the nature of the business.  Bethesda, like other developers, has the opportunity to roll the dice with the Wii U.  If the risk is greater than they like, then passing on the Wii U development is apparently in their best interest.  Who knows, they may even pass on the next-gen consoles from Sony and Microsoft.  There is still a lot of life left with the present generation of consoles from the "Big Three".    

 

I would be remiss if I didn't make mention of the OUYA.  This particular console, funded via Kickstarter, should pose a very different experience.  Whether it will be successful or not depends on many variables.  I did sponsor their project and hope that they are successful in their predicted launch date of March 2013.  Like a developer, I have gambled on their platform based upon what I feel will be an excellent gaming alternative.  At the time I made my pledge, it was based solely on the belief that it will come to fruition.  Only time will tell.

 

In closing, I wish all the developers, console manufacturers and their end users the best gaming success that can be had.  I can safely say I have thoroughly enjoyed the trip thus far thanks to those who have made video-gaming a staple in most households, and is considered a primary source of entertainment therein.  We need to have fun in our lives!!  For me, video-gaming has been the source of fun for many years.

 

After such a lengthy comment, I believe I will fire up my Neo Geo Pocket Color, 3DS, TurboExpress, Game Gear, Lynx or perhaps my Nomad for a session or two of handheld gaming.  (I most likely missed a system or two).  I still enjoy them all!! 

 

 

beez1717
beez1717

ROFL. No bethesda and yet we get Bayonetta...

InfiniteAnger
InfiniteAnger

I for one would love to see a top notch RPG on the Wii U. Think of your map being on the controller and other things of that sort. Although, realistically, I will not be buying one. Haven't gone with a Nintendo console since the N64, just got too childish for me after that.

JasPlun
JasPlun

They are not interested because it will take time to sell enough consoles for them to make the $$$ THE GREEDY BASTARDS WANT.The reason they are cool with what we have is there are millions already sold so when they make a game for it they sell millions of games.I have a 360 and I am ready to move on to something new and different and believe me when I say I can live without Skyrim for Wii U.If these dumb asses cannot see how many Wii's sold and how many potential Wii U's will sell then screw em' I am a gamer plain and simply I have no allegiance to any one system I play games period in multiple platforms and I play what appeals to me so bring on the Wii U I am ready to check it out:P

 

Albaficas
Albaficas

and another company not supporting the wii u.

 

well i guess nintendo will be stuck again with kk marios and kwibi or whatever that pink stupid name

Dav_id83
Dav_id83

WE COULDNT MAKE THE SCREEN WORK

so_hai
so_hai

Good. That means it will be left open for real RPG designers and games, not action games disguised as RPGs.

GH05T-666
GH05T-666

Sorry this does not have anything to do with Nintendo Wii U. I just can not get a straight answer out of anyone.

 

Can anyone tell me if i was playing using the 3DS XL with an old DS game like Pokemon Pearl or something. Does it make the game get a lot of pixels and make it look sh*tty?

 

I ask this becasue i am thinking about upgrading from a DSi and i need to know if the old DS games still look okay or are they really bad. I dont really intend on using the 3D function on the 3DS XL but i would like an upgrade to be able to play the newer games on 3DS as well as enjoy the old DS games still.

 

Please anyone playing old DS games on their new 3DS XL let me know.

 

Sorry once again this question is off topic.

 

demonic_85
demonic_85

In other words here at Bethesda we cant code for **** hence why every game is buggy so we're not even going to attempt it on something with a different controller.

Nintyfan95
Nintyfan95

This means no boring games, YES!

sacatash
sacatash

This is not a surprise.  They still have not figured out to make Skyrim DLCs on the PS3 let alone developing on a '2-screened' enabled console system.  I do admire their honesty that it is a big risk....

They are the opposite of Ubisoft, who takes risks and jump on new systems since they know that people will most likely buy their games and do not  have any competition at launch.

shadowdoggg
shadowdoggg

Probably because they can't build games on anything other than the Xbox and PC

Triton
Triton

Looks like Bethesda and I have something in common.

mpikatellis
mpikatellis

well he/they/bethesda would know, after they f@cked up so badly cross-platform developments of Skyrim. or does he really mean "anything other than xbox presents problems"...

Sgthombre
Sgthombre

Dead Space 3 not on the WiiU? Darn, Nintendo fans are going to miss out on a horror franchise that is no longer a horror franchise. 

TTDog
TTDog

Probably too busy planning for the next generation of consoles to worry about porting things over to the WiiU this generation.

Mr__Maniacal
Mr__Maniacal

 @IanNottinghamX Average Developer's starting salary.....62,000 per year. you mean to tell me he can't work more than 40HRS in a week? he can't go that Extra mile?

Albaficas
Albaficas

 @beez1717 y because that game was a HUUUUGE hit right ?

 

lol dude the first game sold only 1mil on both ps3-xbox combined...there is nothing been proud of trust me that game wont sell either on wii u

IanNottinghamX
IanNottinghamX

 @LindBergh2007 Ill take that info with a grain of salt, theres bad unreliable spec sheets all over the internet at this point....

beez1717
beez1717

 @LindBergh2007 The thing is though, that I'd rather have the l 3 cache then the cell processor for two reasons: First, I don't haver pipelines for separate processes that are taken up by stuff like the music and running the OS. Second, I'd rather have a real core able to run on things then have a core working on several things at once. The Wii u should be able to run more instructions per second then what the cell does.

Albaficas
Albaficas

 @JasPlun have fun with kk marios and kwibys or whatever that pathetic pink thing for 6-7 years

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Albaficas 

Oh really? Name me another company that flat out said they're not supporting the Wii U. 

DESTROYRS_F8
DESTROYRS_F8

they only make DLCs for a heavily glitchy game.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @GH05T-666 

I don't have an XL but it does make the games look rather pixelated but nothing terrible. You'll get used to it if anything.

Albaficas
Albaficas

 @demonic_85 stop trying finding excuses nintendo fangirl....

u will lack of third party like u always do

 

it has nothing to do with bethesda coding

so_hai
so_hai

 @sacatash

 Yeah Ubisoft are renowned for dumping Rayman or Rayman-related title on any new system. They're a cynical company.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Albaficas  @beez1717 

And you think all new IPs automatically sell like 5m right off the bat? Considering the low amount of advertising the game got, 1.2m is actually really good. 

 

Why should we trust the words of a hater? 

Albaficas
Albaficas

 @beez1717  @LindBergh2007 mario....u try to hard dude just let it be...dont try finding excuses plz...the wii u has nothing next gen on it just deal with it..u will get ps3-xbox ports most of the time with a map add for ur controller and thats it

 

u can depend only on that miyamoto kid for more marios and zeldas i guess

TTDog
TTDog

Like "The WiiU is a true next gen console!" Because that's pretty hard to believe.

Albaficas
Albaficas

 @abHS4L88 u wont get res6 

u wont get MGR

u wont get MGS:GZ

 

just to name a few major hits and the list will keep getting bigger

TTDog
TTDog

@moviequest14: And beyond the usual corporate lip service... The WiiU is, at best, only on par with the PS3 and 360, Bethesda are (or should be) working on next gen projects by now so the WiiU won't be part of their plans... which would leave porting Skyrim and Fallout to the WiiU... and let's face it, anyone who wanted to play either of those would have bought a proper console by now. Ergo, the cost of "producing" anything to the WiiU would be far more than the returns from sales... so why bother?

ExcitingGrey
ExcitingGrey

@Albaficas @beez1717 @LindBergh2007 The Wii U IS next gen by definition. It's certainly not going to be in the same league as the next playstation and xbox power-wise but it's a step in the right direction from the last generation (of course). It's lack of power is just one of the console's very few downfalls, all of which I may add are not going to detract from any gaming experience. At least for me, anyway.

slayer1090
slayer1090

 @TTDog I don't remember Nintendo ever labeling it as "next gen"

 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

 @Albaficas 

Thanks for proving that you're just a hater who has no idea what you're talking about. 

 

First off, Resident Evil 6 has been in development for how long? Obviously Capcom's not going to spend more money to make a port for the Wii U right away, same reason why Far Cry 3 isn't going to be on the Wii U. This is also the most likely case with Metal Gear Rising also (and whatever, the Wii U is getting Bayonetta 2 and The Wonderful 101).

 

Second, Metal Gear Solid is a Sony IP, it'll ALWAYS and ONLY be on the Playstation, it's like saying that the Wii U isn't getting Gears of War. 

 

Any other major titles? There's already rumors that GTA 5 will be on the Wii U and Black Ops 2 being a Wii U title also started off as a rumor. 

TTDog
TTDog

@bananaclawz: Nintendo Alienated plenty of gamers by deciding to target casuals... while MS and Sony were giving us advances in console tech with the PS3 and 360 Nintendo gave us... a Gamecube in a new box. Plenty of developers will bypass the WiiU, but with Nintendos record on dealing with 3rd party companies if they say flat out they'll be skipping the WiiU they won't get a sniff of a Dev Kit should Nintendo ever bring out a next gen console, at the same time as Sony and MS, that is actually worth bothering with.

TTDog
TTDog

@bananaclawz: The Wii, the WiiU or both? I think too many people on here have been indoctrinated by Nintendo to see the real picture.

TTDog
TTDog

@shadowdoggg: Nintendo "claim" the WiiU is better... not the same as "being" better which remains to be proven. They're not going to admit any short comings any more than Sony or MS... as to starting from scratch being an issue, if everyone took that approach we'd still be playing old Atari machines... why should this be an issue when it wasn't when the 360 and PS3 were launched?

shadowdoggg
shadowdoggg

 @TTDog Gets your facts straight.... Wii U is better but certainly won't be better than Xbox 3 / PS4 and I also notice you missed another part of the article. Going onto a new console is risky because the reset button is pressed. If you have 100 sold the absolutely theoretical maximum you could get sold is 100 and that is just too risky for them.