Bayonetta Maker Would "Love" to Work With Nintendo Again

Bayonetta 2 director Yusuke Hashimoto talks about the positive experience of working with Nintendo.

Bayonetta 2 looks to be shaping up nicely for the series' debut on Wii U, and Nintendo is partly responsible for helping to make it the game that it is. Working with the console manufacturer has been a positive experience for developer Platinum Games, and according to Bayonetta 2 director Yusuke Hashimoto, it would "love" to do so again.

Noting that some publishers constrain developers by forcing them to include certain elements to appeal to specific parts of the world, Hashimoto said Nintendo has instead afforded Platinum a great deal of freedom. "I feel that it's important to let your creativity flow and Nintendo has been able to provide us with the freedom to do what we had originally envisioned," he told CVG. "We were able to have a lot of back-and-forth between Platinum Games and Nintendo and they were able to provide objective feedback; 'Maybe that's a little too much', or, 'maybe you should try this'. I feel that was really good and helped push Bayonetta 2 to even higher quality.

"We started out with a fundamental freedom, with Nintendo telling us to go and create the game as we saw fit. But as the game started to take shape and we were starting to put all the pieces together, they were able to point out some things that we didn't realize ourselves. That was really helpful for us."

Bayonetta 2 being announced as a Wii U exclusive in 2012 came as somewhat of a surprise--both because the first game was only released on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, and because Platinum doesn't traditionally develop sequels. With Nintendo publishing it, it's unlikely that Bayonetta 2 ever ends up on any other platforms, but what does the Platinum's relationship with Nintendo mean for the future of the series?

Asked about Nintendo's role in future Bayonetta games, Hashimoto said, "In terms of nurturing the content of this game, there's a lot that we learned from Nintendo and if possible we would love to do it again and keep nurturing our child."

When it's released in October, Bayonetta 2 will include a digital copy of the original Bayonetta. It'll also include mechs and support for touch controls.

Just yesterday, Platinum announced its next game, The Legend of Korra.

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metallinatus
metallinatus

"B-B-B-B-B-But Bayonetta will never sell on a ""family"" console!"

Yeah, and Skylanders's sales are crappy on the "big boys" consoles, right?

BradBurns
BradBurns

People who play Bayonetta for the first time on Wii U are definitely in for a unique experience. The original game was basically an homage to Sega's past with the music, the Sonic rings, and tons of other stuff I don't want to spoil.

This version is going to end up being one giant homage to Sega in a Nintendo costume. And being bundled with the sequel is a huge plus for those on the fence.

Kadeemluvmusic
Kadeemluvmusic

I don't know about Nintendo's future, but Bayonetta 2 still will not sell well on the WII U. I think SEGA should've think about it after the unsuccessful Wonderful 101 last year. But I had high hopes for the company after its restructuring. I know Mario Kart 8 is beating Watch Dogs by their own game, but the fate of the Nintendo is uncertain. I hope the president should not blow this up.

nertk
nertk

I see so many frankly insane comments.


1. "Beyonetta 2 won't sell well cause Wii U isn't selling well" Yea....Beyonetta 1 didn't sell well so even if true it seems beyond the point.


2. "Beyonetta 2 for wii u hurts the chances of a 3rd because it won't sell well" I refer you to my answer to the previous complaint.  Also, its not like people were getting in line to fund a sequel anyway 


3. "I would rather no sequel be made if I can't play it on my system." Well, i don't own a xbox one.  So i guess I hope for no more Halos.  I don't own a ps4 so I guess I want no more infamous or resistance.  I don't own a Vita so I hope your vita breaks and when you go to buy a replacement I hope the guy at the store maces you.


Wait a second....Platinum games announced a ps4 exclusive at e3.  How dare they make something for a system I don't have.  How dare they abandon the system that they made wonderful 101, Bayonetta 1 and 2 on.  I hope they all die in a fire!


4. "Bayonetta is not aiming for nintendo's target audience.  It seems so odd out of place on wii u" That is the point.  Mario fans will get a wii u for nintendo's own games eventually even if they haven't yet.  This is nintendo trying to get other gamers to get the system.  Beyonetta, Hyrul Warriors, Devil's Third.  These are games meant to get people who are on the fence to get the system.  I think Nintendo needs to do more of this.  I wish they would announce an Eternal Darkness sequel as well.

BradBurns
BradBurns

I'm surprised that no one mentions the kindness Sega exudes in allowing Nintendo and Platinum the pleasure of making such a game. Be more grateful that Sega even allowed Nintendo to fund one of their many wonderful franchises. Remember, Bayonetta 2 wouldn't even exist if Sega simply told Nintendo and Platinum to shove their plans where the sun don't shine.

Sega should be thanked, not Nintendo. They are a benevolent corporation. Alright so technically all corporations are amoral institutions and Sega made Sonic 2006(the hellspawn of a game) but still..let's all take a moment to thank Sega for allowing this sequel to be created. In your hearts, remember what Sega did for you.

pikachudude860
pikachudude860

Nintendo funded for Bayonetta 2. So...Could Nintendo fund for Half-Life 3?

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

Nintendo added value by funding Bayonetta 1 with exclusive skins and a better port than the ps3/360 versions. And to top it off its added with Bayonetta 2. I daresay that Wii U has become the definitive place for Bayonetta. While some of the beggars might rage about it, I am happy. Nintendo was the only one who cared enough to make this happen and it makes me glad I went Wii U. 

El_Zaggy
El_Zaggy

Nintendo funded bayonetta 2. When you dont have to spend a dime to make a game, it is certainly a positive experience. Except the wii u is a failure and the game wont sell. So nintendo will lose money and they wont fund anymore games. When you gamble with other's money, its easy to talk. If the dev would have put their future on the line for a sequel to a game that didnt had good sales on a underpowered weak gimmicky console that dont sells well  I would bet everything that that guy would not say its a positive experience.

g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

Yep my main reason for getting a Wii U other than the new Zelda game.

fatalscorpion
fatalscorpion

I literally bought a Wii U to play the exclusive Sonic games. With all these other awesome games coming out, that was the... Best. Decision. Ever.

valcrist09
valcrist09

Learn to read about this game.  Bayonetta 2 only exists because Nintendo payed for it to happen, everyone in the comments is bitching about it not being on other consoles well to bad no other consoles wanted a 2nd game to happen so I am happy Nintendo is doing this cause I loved the first one and the fact you get both games in the package is a steal for me.

Deadlysyns87
Deadlysyns87

Bayonetta 2 is not likely to sell super well no matter how much they market it. Its not for Kids and is not a family game. Which no matter what you say is what Nintendo promotes.

fgjnfgh
fgjnfgh

their E3 was impressive and that even was without a major Mario game

Nev3rtime
Nev3rtime

@BradBurns Don't be daft. It's Nintendo who made the financial risk of funding this game. Sega will get their cut simply by owning the IP and the chance that an otherwise dead IP they own get's a new lease of life. It's win win for them.

BradBurns
BradBurns

@bunchanumbers If Nintendo can get Sega's permission to produce a sequel to Vanquish like they did for Bayonetta, they would be my all time favorite game maker, replacing Sega in my book.

pikachudude860
pikachudude860

@bunchanumbers A lot of other games could benefit from stuff like this too. Other games that could of been made into great new franchises. 

BradBurns
BradBurns

@El_Zaggy The Wii U hasn't been doing too good but Mario Kart 8 gave it a sales boost that will be continued by Smash Bros. Wii U. I think Wii U sales will eventually reach an "acceptable" point.

asulaeagle
asulaeagle

Yeah I bet it's a positive experience when you get to make the game you want instead of trying to please the masses for the sake of just trying to survive.... Like some 3rd party games on some other consoles I know of...

Chico86_basic
Chico86_basic

@Deadlysyns87 Yes, WiiU is a family console. But families are not only constituted by kids. Also, the system has more than Bayonetta, Mario and Zelda. Nobody would buy it just to play Bayonetta in the same sense that people wouldn't buy a PS4 just to play Infamous Second Son or Xbox One just to play Sunset Overdrive. 

nazgoroth
nazgoroth

Personally still rather bitter that it's a Wii U exclusive, and no matter how much I loved the original I'm not dropping 300 euros for a system I'll play one game on. (I'm not a Mario/Zelda guy)

hystavito
hystavito

@fgjnfgh You don't really need Mario at E3 to impress since it's mostly gamers that follow E3 and they don't need a Mario title to get excited, unlike the casuals :).

Deadlysyns87
Deadlysyns87

@fgjnfgh I found all the E3 press conferences to be disappointing most of the stuff nintendo presented we already knew was coming out. Splatoon looked stupid and well Kirby is Kirby.

BradBurns
BradBurns

@Nev3rtime @BradBurns There was tiny bit of sarcasm there, chief. It was a joke. I was making fun of how some folks make deities of corporations, I feel a bit weird having to explain it. Maybe you should apply your disapproval of daftness to yourself.

They are just companies trying to make money. The fact that Nintendo asked them for permission is a definite boon for Sega since it'd otherwise just be a dormant ip.

willjohnboy
willjohnboy

@BradBurns @bunchanumbers they should let nintendo make a sonic game which is actually good then maybe he would be relevant again, but seriously i would really like nintendo to take control of the shenmue licence and finally we might get shenmue 3

valcrist09
valcrist09

@nazgoroth  why? Nintendo freaking threw down the cash to do the sequel  that NO ONE els wanted to.  So sick and tired of reading stupid ass comments like this.  THE GAME WOULD NOT EXIST IF NINTENDO DIDNT STEP IN.

Deadlysyns87
Deadlysyns87

@nazgoroth Thats my point also i am not sure about the Mech and the Short hair i mean her Trademark is kind of her hair and now it looks horrible.

tdawgg30
tdawgg30

@Deadlysyns87 Spoken like a loser who hates fun games.  Kirby's new game is love song to Will Vinton's California Raisins commercials.  Splatoon is Nintendo's new IP... and it's a fun third person online shooter that everyone has been trending about all week long.  Your comment is double standards and invalid.

Nev3rtime
Nev3rtime

@BradBurns @Nev3rtime  I don't buy that. It seems to me you've realises you said something stupid and your reply is an attempt to somehow save face.

Chico86_basic
Chico86_basic

@Deadlysyns87 @Chico86_basic To be honest that's their problem and we don't know how much they are realistically expecting to sell in the first place, but as long as the game is good that's good for WiiU as well. Would you seriously prefer another party title over this just because of sales? I know that I wouldn't.

nazgoroth
nazgoroth

Oh my I am so sorry for having an opinion different than yours... I shall off myself now and go back to worshipping Satan...

Seriously though, your lack of logic is painful.

Deadlysyns87
Deadlysyns87

@valcrist09 @nazgoroth That doesn't mean we want to buy a Wii U for it and guess what some of us would rather it didn't Exist the ending to Bayonetta filled in the story nicely i am sick of reading stupid ass comments like Nintendo made it possible you shouldn't be upset its a WII U exclusive. Being upset its Exclusive is not stupid its smart as this game will not sell Wii U's and will fail because its an Exclusive. Nintendo made it possible yes but some of us would prefer it never got made rather then it be exclusive. The Game did not need a Sequel. it only sold 2 million on xbox and Ps3 how many do you think it will sell on a family console.

BradBurns
BradBurns

@Nev3rtime @BradBurns Not at all. I think the line "In your hearts, remember what Sega did for you." should have given it away with it's vaguely religious overtones. 

Now, if you feel that way, and you hastily responded with an insult, don't try to project that on to me.

valcrist09
valcrist09

@Chico86_basic @Deadlysyns87 really Nintendo is gambling not Platnium, Nintendo stepped in and payed for a 2nd game to happen to really if the game fails to sell then Nintendo will lose the cash.  I hope it sells cause I would love to see Nintendo continue this franchise and continue to support Platnium games cause they have a awesome relationship with Nintendo.

Deadlysyns87
Deadlysyns87

@nazgoroth Seriously they give Platinum the money to make Bayonetta 2 it fails and Bayonetta Vanishes just like Vanquish and we know that will happen just look at No More heroes it went no where and it was similar the Fact is Bayonetta will die and making a second one is just a tease like cooking a chocolate cake and throwing it out. Nintendo effectively did this as no one was expecting Bayonetta 2 now we get it its Exclusive and we have to go through the pain of the series dying again.

pikachudude860
pikachudude860

@Deadlysyns87 "some of us would prefer it never got made rather then it be exclusive

Wow. So would you guys feel the same way if it was an Xbox One or PS4 exclusive? Would you pay $400 to play it? 


Don't want to buy a system to play it? Tuff noodles. If you don't like Nintendo's games, that's just your problem, not Nintendo's.

Well it sell a bunch of consoles? I don't know. But since it's an exclusive and not some random 3rd party game in an ocean of other 3rd party games, I'd expect it to sell better than the original did. 

bunchanumbers
bunchanumbers

@Deadlysyns87 lol its too bad for you. And for everyone else who won't get a Wii U for it. Doesn't mean that the people who buy the game won't like it and enjoy it. It might be dead for you but it will be alive for all of us who own a Wii U and like action games. 

tigerclaw425
tigerclaw425

@Deadlysyns87 @tigerclaw425 @fgjnfgh Thats your opinion and that's a good thing. I respect that. In my opinion, It just looks colorful. While yes, most of their games are towards children but that doesn't mean it can't be for adults. Nintendo is taking a risk by trying new things this year with a new look on Kirby and more coming later on (I hope) and I respect them for them for that.

hystavito
hystavito

@Deadlysyns87 That's a totally fair and valid argument to make, and I was wondering the same thing.  With the WiiU not doing well, and Bayonetta being the kinda title that the Mario crowd has no clue about, it could be a very poor seller and yes that could kill the chances of sequels on any platform.

nazgoroth
nazgoroth

@Deadlysyns87


Shame though i enjoyed the first part. Actually own Vanquish for the 360 as well, talking about a strangely enjoyable yet no less bloody weird game.

tdawgg30
tdawgg30

@Deadlysyns87 Double standards much... or you're being so freaking Negative Nancy?  You can't predict things.  Nintendo has money in the bank.  If they want to fund Platinum Games and develop Bayonetta 2 exclusively on the Wii U, it's their freaking call... not yours!  True Bayonetta fans buy games on a game system.  Now that Bayonetta 2 is from Nintendo and it's EXCLUSIVELY on the Wii U, most of them are buying NIntendo's HD system.  I've been in blogs like IGN, but this blows... no thanks to you.  If you don't want to buy Bayonetta 2 and the Wii U altogether, that's your freaking problem... not Nintendo or Platinum Games.  Without Nintendo, your favorite game system of choice wouldn't exist.

Chico86_basic
Chico86_basic

@Deadlysyns87 @valcrist09 I would like to think there's more to it. A great game is great by itself no matter the sales, and most of all that's ultimately what consoles need in the long run. Nintendo must know this as well.

BradBurns
BradBurns

@Deadlysyns87 @Chico86_basic @valcrist09 Please, no more Wonderful 101! I tried playing the demo and I left really confused and a little angry at Kamiya for not making his games more intuitive. I'm surprised Nintendo didn't step in and slap him for not introducing key game mechanics more clearly. 

And I'm not that bad at action games, I loved Vanquish, it's the Kamiya-directed games that confuse me(Viewtiful Joe included) and probably many other people that don't post on videogame forums. I've seen people pick up a controller to play Viewtiful Joe and more recently The Wonderful 101 and they look baffled just figuring the core mechanics. 

And then the games pile on bad ratings for your performance without explaining anything. It's like saying "hey dumbo! You're so incompetent why do you even bother playing!". Just my two cents.

Chico86_basic
Chico86_basic

@Deadlysyns87 @Chico86_basic @valcrist09 Because they already did that. Even if the Bayonetta fanbase is niche market it helps reduce the production value risk more than a new IP with the same standards. I fell in love with that witch the moment I saw her in motion! Didn't get the first game, but I'm seriously considering buying Bayonetta 2 on WiiU now. That's an easy deal for me once I get the console!