Battlefield Hardline Multiplayer To Become "Deeper And More Interactive" Thanks to Beta Feedback

Visceral Games outlines ten updates to the final game it plans to make based on feedback from the initial beta.

Battlefield Hardline developer Visceral Games has posted a list of ten things it plans to change for the final game based on feedback from last month's beta, one of which is making the entire multiplayer experience "deeper and more interactive."

"We want to reinforce how important your feedback has been," lead multiplayer designer Thad Sasser said in a post today on the Battlefield Blog. "We have a lot of other awesome changes underway and will be sharing more soon!"

You can see all 10 of the major changes below, courtesy of Sasser. This list is part of Visceral's ongoing "Community's Most Wanted" feature, which outlines changes to the game. Sasser stressed that Visceral does in fact read the comments as a means to "create an awesome multiplayer experience" for Battlefield Hardline.

He also teased that Visceral will reveal a "ton" of new multiplayer details for Battlefield Hardline in the coming days. This will include new information about the game's maps, modes, guns, and gadgets, as well as the single-player campaign.

The Battlefield Hardline beta was offered last month only on PlayStation 4 and PC. Later this fall, a second beta will be available for all of the platforms the game is coming to: Xbox 360, Xbox One, PlayStation 3, PS4, and PC.

1. REDUCING FREQUENCY OF EXPLOSIVES

"We have heard your complaints about breaking the cops and robbers experience with the amount of heavy explosive weaponry available--but we didn't want to sacrifice fun! We've made changes to reduce the frequency of explosive use to focus on the core gameplay, and we've made the use of explosives much more believable now."

2. REBALANCING AND RENAMING THE MECHANIC CLASS

"We've made the class better in more situations--without sacrificing his ability to take down a vehicle. We're also looking at renaming it--post your favorite suggestions in the comments!"

3. REVISITING THE IN-GAME HUD

"We're working on establishing a clearer visual difference from BF4 and improving the messaging of the in-game HUD, from objectives to player status information."

4. REVISITING THE CUSTOMIZE SCREEN

"We've taken a new pass at how the customize screen is laid out, and are making it clearer and easier to manage your gear and weapon attachments. This should address the majority of issues reported."

5. MAKING THE WORLD DEEPER AND MORE INTERACTIVE

"We've been working on adding more touches to the game world, giving players more options and things to do that impact play. Look for interactive objects like doors, radios, ammo lockers, and more!"

6. MAKING ROUNDS LAST LONGER

"A significant amount of feedback during the Beta was received regarding the quick progression of rounds. We've made tweaks to both Heist and Blood Money that should help make the experiences last longer without sacrificing any of the fun."

7. INCREASING TRANSPORT VEHICLE HEALTH

"There were a lot of comments about cars dying too easily from gunfire. We agree that one magazine from the AKM should probably not turn your sedan into a 4-person death trap quite so easily. We've also increased the survivability of the utility van."

8. IMPROVING AUDIO SITUATIONAL AWARENESS

"In some of our game modes, situational awareness is very important. We're working on improving the audio cues in the environment to help you detect and locate your enemies before they do the same to you."

9. MEDKITS AND AMMO BOXES SHOULD NO LONGER BLOCK L.O.S. CHECKS FOR REVIVE

"Previously, you could fail to revive someone if a medkit or ammo bag was blocking the line of sight check for the revive mechanic. We are fixing this so that these no longer block you from reviving."

10. IMPROVING INTERROGATION

"We've worked out some changes to the T62 CEW and the Interrogation mechanic. We're working on making Interrogation only show enemies in a radius around the captured enemy, but show the marked enemies as if they had been Active Spotted by a teammate--making it both more useful and less powerful at the same time."

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56 comments
gamingnick
gamingnick

This inverviewer right away made me pause 14 seconds in to write this, and what a load of nonsence he talked. "What is this battlefield...cos it ...seems like a completely new type of battlefield."


This interviewer had clearly either taken some cash, was over-joyed at being a PR agent for Visceral, or just didn't even play the beta.


The beta was exacltly like the city maps for BF4. Except teams were named Cops and Robbers, and it only felt like a moderate change which was changing BF4 conquest to standing there waiting to carry cash. Disapointing gamespot.

lawson_raider
lawson_raider

Just don't fix where a guy with a pistol can take you down in 1 - 2 shots while you are blasting him away with a M249 dumping dozens of rounds into him...that would take away from the realism.

The-Lord
The-Lord

I started playing Heroes & General Beta. The graphics might be pre-2005 but it feels like Old BF games, and is nostalgic too. No more CODFIELD for me.

daikkenaurora12
daikkenaurora12

More shooting, more multiplayer.  Single minded gameers.

deathBRINGER201
deathBRINGER201

I'll take a mulligan on this one thanks. just give us all what we want and that's bad company 3. No bull Yearly releases because your just taking a massive deuce on the franchise. Whats the point in investing in premium if a new game is gonna come out not even a year later

bluebird08
bluebird08

i will pass on this game, i mite get in for like $10-$20 just to add to my battlefield collection, but i won't play it. 

i will stick to BF4 for now, and wait for a BF 1944, BF 2143, bad company 3, or even Vietnam 2.

C_A_G_E
C_A_G_E

Keep looking for "Reduce Aim assist drastically" or "Removed aim assist" I swear if i was just close to the guy aiming my gun put my reticle on him. Caused fire fights to just be who could twitch and hold the button faster... 


Is it just me or is Aim assist more heavy handed than BF4? 

waffleiron88
waffleiron88

Using feedback from a beta to improve the game, I didnt think dev's did that anymore.

jinzo9988
jinzo9988

I'll be grabbing this when it comes out, assuming it works of course.

oflow
oflow

Should have made BF 2143 instead. This doesnt look interesting at all.

youmadd
youmadd

Went into the beta skeptical.  Ended up putting about 45hrs into it.  Simply had more fun than I do in Battlefield 4.  Sue me.


Khiladi_786
Khiladi_786

This is random but someone with battlefield 4 on PS4 plz tell me If there are still issues with multiplayer and should I buy it. Thx.

ps3gamer1234
ps3gamer1234

I want because I did not  buy Battlefield 4 because of all the bugs and glitches. 

GameFan1983
GameFan1983

Sorry, so far Bugfield 4's DLC, dragon's teeth seem to be a better "game" than this.

NoahRoalson
NoahRoalson

I literally don't know anybody who is excited for this game...

wowgrandpa
wowgrandpa

throw some paint on it to try to make it look less like bf4? though it will still play exactly like it so... not interested.


where's the civilians? 

where's the friendly fire penalties?

where's the more intimate experience? (smaller teams)

where's the removal/severe reduction in revives and respawns?

where's the limited assets? (how many weapons/vehicle respawns?)


this is just a pathetic game. plain and simple.

S001_PRIMAL
S001_PRIMAL

So minor changes in reality.....also when you have explosions that topple buildings in a cops and robbers game, youre making the equivalent of a michael bay film....thats never a good sign. also everyone knows that there is going to be a wonderful micro transaction system so get rid of it. lastly, drop the price down to 30 and we can atleast tolerate what will be a sorry excuse for a game when it is released sure it will be better than bf4 but anything is better than bf4.....visceral, i suggest you go back to making dead space games, sure you messed up with 3 essentially turning the game into mass effect, but at least the game worked.

Razor10000
Razor10000

battlefield netcode still needs alot of fixes, noob gadgets like the auto-revive need to be removed, stinger and igla is necessary to balance infantry vs air vehicles, but vehicles lock on weapons like heatseekers need to be removed, there is no middle ground to balance them, they are too weak or too powerfull. weapons need to require skill to be balanced. the game can´t play itself for you or else you replace fun with frustration.

bf3/bf4 vehicle gameplay, it´s a lock on mess.

they need to give players the option to remove lensflares and the dam exaggerated sun. this is by far the annoying thing in video games this last years.

small maps like metro isn´t battlefield. bf2 version of strike of karkand is a good infantry battlefield map.

bf hardline is a good idea but the copy paste core gameplay from bf3/bf4 isn´t battlefield. battlefield isn´t noob gadgets, lock on warfare and loneworf. battlefield is teamwork and players skil to help your team win on 64player battlefield maps.

dogman7
dogman7

This just proves that this wasn't a true beta if this is all they think is wrong with the game in its current state. The beta I played on PS4 was nowhere near what I'd pay $60 for.

slimdogmilionar
slimdogmilionar

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO somebody throw a tomato at these guys.

malec_1
malec_1

Nothing about those bullet points feels "Deeper And More Interactive", but rather like they came from typical patch notes. This game had a chance to break away from the typical Battlefield formula and do something different. However its fundamentally the same game as previous Battlefields and this falls far short of addressing it properly.

berserker66666
berserker66666

 11. IMPLEMENTING MORE BUGS THAN EVER BEFORE


"We've listened to your feedback about bugs and crashes in the game but we didn't have time to fix them cause we're lazy and on a tight deadline so expect a buggy game when it's out. We'll fix them after release"

RossRichard
RossRichard

Doesn't change the fact that the game is a $60 reskin.

nazgoroth
nazgoroth

Deep? anyone seen Adelle?

Seriously the the Beta was a disappointment. If i do buy this game it'll be late 2015, you know when they've fixed most of the bugs.

jack00
jack00

Even after the mess bf4 was (and still is), people will buy this. I weep for the future of gaming.

bachuck
bachuck

I've said this for years - all MP focused games should have a public beta. Developers/Publishers would avoid so many pitfalls if they stopped being so secretive with their product.

blackbetty1974
blackbetty1974

I'll give it another chance. I didn't enjoy the beta, but I think that had more to do with the players. Due to the free nature of the beta, I imagine there were a lot of people playing who would otherwise not buy a Battlefield game. Once the game launches and the COD crowd has been weeded out, I'm optimistic it will be a better experience.

tanerb
tanerb

Same game every year

dannydopamine8
dannydopamine8

i tried to get into the battlefield games on PC but for some reason the hit registration online just feels delayed for some reason.. It doesn't feel instant like cs:go for instance. Someone said it has something to do with poor tickrate but i have no idea what that even is

hystavito
hystavito

@bluebird08 You might be waiting a long time for those other games, like maybe forever :).  Or did I miss some news?  The only one that sounds remotely likely is Bad Company 3.

lilflipp
lilflipp

@waffleiron88 Yeah, that's so 2004. They're supposed to sell you the betas now. How retro.

waffleiron88
waffleiron88

@oflow Yeah, i believe that would of been the best course of action. Most likely I would have pre ordered it without hesitation.

two10
two10

@youmadd I agree. Sure it was flawed, but it was more fun than BF4 in my opinion. Hopefully with the feedback from the beta, and I'm assuming the visuals will be improved, along with a host of fixes I might well pick this up.

Porcupethtonia
Porcupethtonia

@Khiladi_786 Hi, I meet the criteria of your post. Battlefield 4 has seen a lot of improvements since its disastrous launch. There are still some bugs and the net code isn't perfect but it's way better than it used to be, and DICE is continuing to improve it. This is coming from a guy who has approx. 150 hours put into the game. 

drysprocket
drysprocket

@NoahRoalson Me either. I'm guessing that they're targeting casual gamers who will see it on a store shelf for the first time and go "oh awesome."

I hate you EA.

youmadd
youmadd

@Razor10000 Wait, so vehicle lockon weapons should be removed, but you want to keep YOUR lockon weapons, namely stingers.  Too funny. Sorry but one second to point&click a stinger at the big box in the sky requires none of the "skill" you mention.

I definitely agree with getting rid of noskill lockon weapons - they've certainly made Battlefield 4 nearly pointless to play with everything locking onto everything else - but then it should be done across the board.  Meaning no point&click lockon weapons period, rather than just letting the worst most casual players keep them.

youmadd
youmadd

@dogman7 The beta was one map and two gamemodes.  So, no, I'm pretty sure they didn't expect anyone would pay $60 for that.  The final game will have 13 MP maps and a full AAA singleplayer campaign. 


Also, not sure where they said "that's all that's wrong with the game".  They simply some of the most frequently requested things.

youmadd
youmadd

@RossRichard Doesn't change the fact that a $60 reskin will still be more fun than most of the other $60 games that will be coming out in the same timeframe.

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

@RossRichard  No you are wrong its got a new game type called Blood Money that makes it a whole new game!


Just kidding.  you are right.

S001_PRIMAL
S001_PRIMAL

@nazgoroth HAHAA, thats funny, its almost a full year and theyre still trying to fix bugs on bf4 that has been there since bf3. hell theyre still trying to figure out why people bought bfbc2

bldgirsh
bldgirsh

They did with BF4 and BF3... They were both still glitchy crud.

edeep87
edeep87

@bachuck very good point but will they listen... my answer is probably NOT !

S001_PRIMAL
S001_PRIMAL

@blackbetty1974 have you not played bf4, the cod crowd is already here on bf. and hardline just encoruages it even further

NoahRoalson
NoahRoalson

@dannydopamine8 That is how often your game is updated with what is happening in the game world. CS:GO supports tick rates up to 128, which is over double that of Battlefield.

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

@dannydopamine8  CS:GO is consistently the most popular military shooter on Twitch.TV. never played it. But its very popular for the PC players.

Khiladi_786
Khiladi_786

Nice. Thanks bro. I'll be getting it with a PS4.

Razor10000
Razor10000

@youmadd dice doesn´t know how to balance infantry vs air vehicles without lock on weapons. removing the stinger and igla without balance the game properly would be another different mess then it is now. air vehicles would kill everything. 

removing any other lock on weapons from bf4 would just improve the game.


bf4 is noob mess of a game. dice dumbs down everything. jdam(perfect in bf1943), sraw (perfect in bc2), ucav is tv missiles for players, active radar, lock on weapons everywhere for everyone...


dogman7
dogman7

@youmadd I wouldn't call any BF single player campaign "AAA," and it's not the quantity of what was in the beta, it was the quality. They know this thing won't sell as well as BF4, which didn't sell as well as BF3, and I'm glad. Maybe they'll put more thought and effort into their DLC before they try to sell it to us for $60. Sorry if I offended a game you like, but that's how I, and many others, feel about it.

dogman7
dogman7

@bldgirsh To be fair, those were demos more than betas, just like this was.

Setho10
Setho10

@dogman7 @bldgirsh I didn't play this but it seemed like a demo from my understanding of the features and level of completion. Officially in product development, a product has entered beta when all product features have been implemented and remaining development involves polishing the product for commercial release. The only thing that makes the B3 and B4 demos not beta tests is the fact that they were released after the game was sent to manufacture, making any tests largely useless for the initial release. But those games were definitely in the beta stage of development when their betas were released.

The problem is that Steam Early access has caused people to believe that a beta can include a product that doesn't have all its features in place. For a game with 90% of the features in place, meaning it is playable (but maybe not fun) from beginning to end you can call it an alpha. For any game (or product) that cannot be used for its intended purpose you are not yet ready for an alpha release. You are simply making prototypes at that point.