Assassin's Creed doesn't have an overall ending after all, Ubisoft admits

Think of the Assassin's Creed storyline more like you would Doctor Who.

Last year, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag director Ashraf IsmaiI said that Ubisoft had a brief outline of the Assassin's Creed series, including an overall ending.

This year, however, Revelations and Black Flag lead writer Darby McDevitt has said that's "not exactly true," and that Ubisoft's annual blockbuster cash cow has no definitive end in sight.

"There's been a bit of confusion in that [Ismail] once said that Assassin's Creed has an ending--that's not exactly true," explained McDevitt in an interview with Edge.

The Assassin's Creed universe was likened to Doctor Who, with McDevitt saying there can be individual endings as part of an perpetually ongoing story. "Because all of history is open to us we see the universe as a Doctor Who type thing. There are so many possibilities we don't want to definitively end the universe, but we can have storylines that have endings."

Reflecting on the series so far, McDevitt spoke about how putting a firm date into Desmond-era titles created a challenge for the writers. “The problem with the Desmond trilogy was that back in 2007 they set a date with Abstergo launching a satellite that was going to control people’s minds," he said.

"That unfortunately took a back seat in ACII when they swapped the plot point for the end of the world, which was conveniently going to happen in the same month in 2012. This was a hard date we were going to hit--we realised very quickly that Assassin’s Creed is a popular franchise and we’d like to keep it going.”

As for the series after Desmond, McDevitt says "we've moved on from specifically defining when a story will end" in future titles.

Looking forward, McDevitt said that an in-game list of future settings for the Assassin's Creed series found in Black Flag--which included Shogun-era Japan, Victorian London, the Wild West, and the French Revolution, among others--was Ubisoft parodying the locations that fans most request. "So the fans generated that list, we didn’t generate that list," he added.

But is any of the fan speculation based in reality? “I will say that fans definitely think alike. We have the same goals for the series, let’s say. I’ll leave it at that. We always want to surprise," McDevitt concluded.

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TheGreatPhoenix
TheGreatPhoenix

here's the thing, if the overall story goes nowhere, and is irrelevant for the series, WHY PUT IT IN IN THE FIRST PLACE

delta5931
delta5931

In other words, they will milk this cash cow until it can't be milked anymore!

eze_sl89
eze_sl89

since they are planing to keep on with this crap forever, then they should do a version in:

* feudal japan

* ancient Egypt. or Greece

* Cold war 

tchanah
tchanah

Oh it's not good to turn the words which are uttered behalf of the company by one person and the other. But anyway it's okay to get a new Assassin's Creed every next year like we get a COD. Why not enjoy the same physics in different settings! LONG LIVE "W I T H  Q U A L I T Y" ! ! ! 

projectpat72988
projectpat72988

Its sad to see the direction this series has taken in terms of simply "anything to make money". To act like that was always the plan is a flat out lie. You can tell things originally had meaning and the story actually mattered....then with 3 its like they removed the real ending just to continue things in some half ass barely related way for the sake of money. Desmond the main character of the series was basically removed from having any meaning at all for the sake of making more games...he was irrelevant. Then to call the game 4 is just as absurd because it advances the storyline so slightly that you can't even take it serious. Then theres the absurdity of Rebecca and Shawn two assassins whos pictures are on Abstergo computers just walking around the place like no one would notice. Its like they completely abandoned the once extremely interesting story arc they had going and didn't care how bad they screwed it over.

AuronAXE
AuronAXE

I didn't like Brotherhood to III but I, II and IV are pretty damn sick. Highly recommend if you're willing to play a mostly combat/some stealth hybrid adventure game. Black Flag is the best.

Koes Hargianto
Koes Hargianto

seems like AC series is now "more action, less stealthy" Is it hard thing to do if I want Assassin's Creed but with flavor of Tenchu?

CaveManCobb
CaveManCobb

I hope that eventually they will take out the modern day shit. Kills the immersion when you are taken out of the action and put into some lame hacking mini game with no pay off. 

Lambchopzin
Lambchopzin

AC4 was good enough and different enough from the other entries in the series that my faith was restored a bit, so I'm not ready to say that this is actually a bad thing. If future titles in the franchise go as far as AC4 did to try and keep things fresh then I'm fine with it and will probably continue to play these games. And that aside it's not like Ubisoft doesn't make plenty of other great games that are completely different from AC. They are a big publisher. They can churn out ACs ever year and still make original IPs at the same time.


They do need to do something about the combat, and they need to man up and decide if this is a stealth game or an action game. If they want it to be an action game then they should focus solely on that and stop shoe-horning in half-assed stealth elements. That was probably my biggest complaint with AC4. All those stalker missions and the horribly gamey stealth-shrubbery and stuff had no right being in that game. Alternatively if they still want it to be a stealthy-adventure game they should focus on that. AC tries to do too much.


That turned into more of a rant then I originally intended. Oops.

drwhoiscool
drwhoiscool

Assassin's Creed is boring.  I should know, Ive never played it.

crunchb3rry
crunchb3rry

That's a pretty big bait-and-switch. Build a fanbase to slog through the same recycled gameplay for the story, and then admit there's no crafted direction or end to the story? Wow, real smart, Ubi.

Warful
Warful

Assassin's Creed: Moneygrabbing Warfare - Call of Duty and Activision should be ashamed of themselves, they aren't even close to Ubisoft's abilities to moneygrab!

Daniel Leon
Daniel Leon

Well that's too bad. I did like playing AC4.

presidentperez
presidentperez

i've been losing interest in the action adventure genre for a while now, and have not played AC since the first, that being said I think, inspite of being an annual title, AC have done a decent Job appearing fresh, especially since ACIII. Adding just enough new content each installment to remain relevant. but maybe I should go fuck myself now that I dont play the games, and thus; dont know shit. 

marcusfeelius1
marcusfeelius1

And this is why I have never played an assassins creed past 1. I started 2 and realized it was copy paste into Italian.

Klikandclick
Klikandclick

in short: "we're gunna ride this mother into the ground till we can't make no more money off of it"


Assassin's Creed: the Call of Duty of action-adventure games

Game Tester
Game Tester

great non stop assassin's creed stories

Dsolow5
Dsolow5

If people stop buying their inane annual cut-and-paste job, they'll be forced to have new, possibly interesting ideas. There's a reason that people are literally paying for game development on kickstarter -- the big publishers are absolutely unwilling to take chances on original games.

Yaotar5
Yaotar5

I do not understand why all cheer that the series is over. 

and what is strange with Ubisoft milking a cow, I suppose that is the point of all. 


In any case, if you dont wont do play it, then  dont play it, I really do not understand the purpose of 

repeating comments about milking and such.

---Cipher---
---Cipher---

It kind of annoys me they compared it to Dr. Who... The doctor is a single being who can die (and if they die before regeneration, no more Dr. Who.). AC can be written into oblivion because they can just make another ancestor. It doesn't matter if present me or me 10 generations ago dies, we'll just write a new character in and F*** the last guy! He doesn't matter!


That and if UbiSoft ran Dr. Who like they run AC, we'd see 10 seasons of Dr. Who a year all running at the same time. Every so often there would be a good season, but most of them would be pretty mediocre rehashes of the last seasons...

Ark1of712
Ark1of712

Did you enjoy being a Pirate Assassin? Well now you can be a COWBOY ASSASSIN! Or a NINJA ASSASSIN! Or a FRENCH...err...you get the idea.

orbit991
orbit991

And these are the guys who are saying that studios need to try new and bolder things. Talk is cheap Ubi.

Rechact
Rechact

I feel like they've taken an unfortunate route. They could have gone the route of the Elder Scrolls or GTA and made this into a real ongoing flagship series, where each release is a real event. Instead they've opted for burning the candle at both ends like Call of Duty. It won't be able to maintain its popularity for long unless there's a real formula shift.. 

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

I can be down with this.  Make the games bi-yearly so I have time for a break, then branch off several hundred years into an unfamiliar culture to shake things up a bit.

bruta
bruta

Think of the Assassin's Creed storyline more like a cow.

dz99ls
dz99ls

once they went beyond the Mayan apocalypse it was already clear there was not end in sight

thirdson1812
thirdson1812

I thought it was a dumb idea to turn AC into an annual money hungry series. It feels like it's becoming the new COD. Have fun milking that cow Ubi$oft.

motorxd
motorxd

Ahh I remember when I first finished AC1, how captivated I was.  I could hardly wait to see how the "trilogy" would unfold.  Then AC2/Brotherhood happened and all I could think was that they had no clue where to go with the story yet knew how hard they could flog this series. GLHF Ubisoft.

Kelwin Lieng
Kelwin Lieng

Wha....? Assassin's Creed 5 coming in? Then Assassn's Creed 6? I'm gonna be enjoying this. Learning about history is my way around this game.

Jon Davis
Jon Davis

I don't mind if they don't end, they are great games with awesome historical facts and gameplay.

chieflion
chieflion

they should have figured this shit out years ago.

now we have great games with fucked up storylines, and they are sweeping desmond under a rug,

i love these games, but they can be so much more, they can dive into philosophic territory, social commentary, economic examination, the list goes on and on. I'm not saying that they haven't done this a few times, but more often then not they threw those ideas out so they could put fucking aliens in, and make them kill hot blonde chicks before the main character can bone them. Its nonsense, but pretty looking, fun to play nonsense.

and yes, the combat is easy as fuck, at least have some difficulty settings next time around.

Silver Guy
Silver Guy

the thing is, Daniel, is that they didnt entertain me at all, the last AC was disgusting and boring with all these ships

banishedjoker
banishedjoker

I personally love this franchise.... (assassins creed 3 was a bad game IMO) I believe Ubisoft should continue the series but every 2 years and if they must do it every year $60 is an insult. As i said i love this series and its my favorite for the last 3 or so years i always look forward to the next game.

A few things must happen so this franchise doesn't go the way of COD.


1-For the love of god fix the combat.

2-The present day story has to be greatly improved or just get rid of it.

3-Please lower the price if this is gonna be a yearly installment.

4-I know you guys have been trying to make the gameplay not repetitive at all.... But i really got tired of looking for treasure and looking for animus pieces, if you gonna make me do this please make it meaningful not just a crappy suit unlock.



Other than that i really enjoy this series and the time i spend int this beautiful worlds you guys create. Thank You!


NOW LETS GO TO JAPAN PLEASEEEE!!!!!    (or Egypt. ;-) ) 

wizardboyus
wizardboyus

ubisoft...maybe you should concentrate on innovating the gameplay, and fix that combat system!! wtf is up w/ no sound on the finishing moves?? for a triple-A game, that's pretty messed up...my teacher would get hella pissed at me, tellin me i'm not a professional, if there was even ONE sound that glitched out during development...how did this get past QA? anyways, fix the combat and gameplay mechanics before you start gettin all Dr. Who w/ the story...

Brandon Vang
Brandon Vang

I'm still waiting on an Asian themed game. Can't have assassin without ninja, one and the same.

rb2610
rb2610

@TheGreatPhoenix  Presumably much like Doctor Who which tends to have a story for each episode and an overall story arc that lasts over the course of a series or two, which does have a climax at the end of each story arc, but no real endpoint.

Cellpwn
Cellpwn

@eze_sl89  "feudal Japan"

A ninja-styled Assassin's Creed. I honestly never thought about it, that would be kind of badass.

Afinati
Afinati

@---Cipher--- And we all thought the Doctor's stories sometimes got a bit wonky. AC is a terrible mess.

Majkic666
Majkic666

But Hey you forgot about the fillers that will come between those... like AC4 The Pirate Brotherhood, and AC4 The Black Revelation of Ships...

Majkic666
Majkic666

@banishedjoker  look at the bright side... no more feathers! or at least they removed them in AC4

ginobili1
ginobili1

@banishedjoker Great list. I wish they implement that. Black Flag was an amazing game and the first AC I worked hard to unlock everything in. Not to mention that the beautiful environment played a large part in bringing me back, even after the storyline finished. 


A two year cycle is great for such a franchise. It will give them time to polish on mission structure as well, as I'm frankly getting tired of the eavesdropping and kill, fetch this and kill quests.

Link_2666
Link_2666

@Cellpwn @eze_sl89  Don't know if you've played AC4 yet, but there are some parts in the game that suggest a few of those settings for future titles. I've really been hoping for an AC game set in Ancient Egypt - it would be so cool.

projectpat72988
projectpat72988

@Majkic666 @marcusfeelius1  AC1 to AC2 was one of the biggest jumps in terms of quality that I have pretty much ever seen in a game. AC1 was pretty much perfect in terms of new gen visuals....creativity....fresh. Then they turned around and improved upon it in essentially EVERY SINGLE WAY possible and then some. I was blown away how amazing AC2 was at the time. Sad that sort of innovation has stopped with this series.

Link_2666
Link_2666

@projectpat72988 @Majkic666 @marcusfeelius1  AC2 was a phenomenal improvement over 1. It only stopped innovating from 2 through to Revelations. However, as much as they did "innovate" for AC3, it ended up in them muddying up the combat system in an attempt to make it more difficult and resolve the ease of the one-button counter kill. 


This is where AC4 stepped in and actually improved the combat. Albeit, it can be a bit frustrating at times, it is a genuine step up in challenge. Add to that pirates and naval combat and you have yourself one heck of a game. I'm glad I gave AC4 a chance. I was not disappointed.