Army, Navy seeking out better video game tech

Soldiers reportedly find current military simulations dated; Army investigating new program to find replacement for Bohemia Interactive's Virtual Battlespace 2.

The US Army and Navy are reportedly looking into ways to make virtual training more exciting for new recruits.

According to an article in National Defense Magazine, both the Army and Navy are seeking contracts for the creation of updated virtual PC simulation games that will look and play more like Call of Duty than the games already available.

"The industry needs to find a way to get past the older code that's sitting out there," Havok vice president of sales and marketing Brian Waddle told the publication. "[Soldiers] look at these simulators, and they don't take them seriously because they don't look as good as what they're playing in their living rooms."

According to the report, the Army is looking for a first-person, massively multiplayer online shooter to replace Bohemia Interactive's Virtual Battlespace 2. It is offering a contract of approximately $44.5 million over five years to the winning application, which must include the ability to integrate more players across larger landmasses and accurately re-create territories like Afghanistan.

For its part, the Navy is also looking for games that will be able to train sailors in specific tasks, including a training program that will run on Crytek's CryEngine 3. The Navy will offer three separate contracts of $100 million each.

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386 comments
Grimkillah
Grimkillah

Whatever happens to violent video games, oh, so it is ok for the world's greatest bully and murderer to have them.

botsio
botsio

get serious guy are u smarter than the army the can tell a really good shooter if the see one!call of duty is a likely candidate it has all the intensities u are likely to experience on the battlefield the campaign bears testimony to this fact!

brok
brok

So train your troops with COD if you like...


And watch the standard of your armed forces slip below virtually every other force on the planet.

BravoOneActual
BravoOneActual

Ummmmm....

Recruitment tool or training sim?

A very important distinction that shouldn't be twisted.

UrbanTracker
UrbanTracker

"look and play more like call of duty", yes real war is exactly like call of duty where we run around bunny hopping  to avoid bullets and jumpshot enemies with a shotty....

4blizzard
4blizzard

As sad as this is for Bohemia Interactive it will force them to give us (the non military) all of the VBS2 fatures in ARMA 3. I'm sick and tired of how cool VBS2 is of what it can do when compared to it's stripped down (heavily stripped down) sibling, the ARMA series. 


I mean in VBS2 you can scuba, walk in airplane cargo area and shoot from a moving car. NONE of that you can don in ARMA1 or 2 unless you're some sqf scripting God. And even then the game engine will fight you. 


Sorry for the rant. 

marlobc
marlobc

i hope they don't hire anyone from Call of duty.

wizzzer_thy_133
wizzzer_thy_133

just get ARMA 2 with mods... the things i see community does is so close to reality with all it's complexity, it's really amazing those things pass over the millitary's head.

Dustyn-Barlow
Dustyn-Barlow

not really sure why they waited this long.  The popularity of FPS's could easily translate into higher military recruitment.  Just hope any new recruits don't go over to Afghanistan and start calling al-quaida "noobs". ha ha

tightwad34
tightwad34

Ha ha, the armed forces are pushing for the next-gen. Maybe.

Juguard
Juguard

Guys, I don't think they will release the simulator to the public, its for training soldiers and navy personnel. Don't confuse this with violent video games.

tgwolf
tgwolf

*Mockingly and raucously laughs, pointing cruelly at the military* ...Well we'll see how this withstands the building wave of anti-gaming policy...MY GUESS is that they who would love to see this nation destroyed will veto or otherwise choke such an effort...

ccgod
ccgod

haha our convoy simulator  looks like mine craft, and i was the 1st person to kill everyone on the 1st pass

Lotus-Edge
Lotus-Edge

Where's Infinity Ward when you need them....

DAOWAce
DAOWAce

Oh look, the US army and navy want better video games; yet the politicians want violent video games banned or otherwise castrated.


Way to go, America; I hope these politicians are removed from office.

marinerzz
marinerzz

You hear that, devs? Your game engines are horribly dated if even the army thinks they're bad, and they'll continue to be dated until you abandon those weak consoles and stop making multiplatform games and focus on PC only and their superior technology.

Angelsoft717
Angelsoft717

But...But.....Video games cause violence.

foxrock66
foxrock66

They're not training people with these games, guys... They're more like promotional tools than anything, designed to get people interested in enlistment

Colekern
Colekern

I think what the Arma is saying is that they want the characters in their simulations to handle weapons differently. Like being able to run and shoot at the same time for instance. Also, graphics.

Let's hope Bohemia interactive will be at the helm of the project. I mean seriously, they've already got Arma 3, so they'll be able to modify the way the weapons are handled in it and then bam, almost the perfect sim.


Gr3gSolidus
Gr3gSolidus

Watch this devolve into a multi- millon dollar boon doggle that needs to be explained to Congress.

BuBsay
BuBsay

"Soldiers need simulation games that look and play more like Call of Duty"


Call of Duty... A better military simulation than Arma?


What?

Monsta1217
Monsta1217

Only one Game came to mind when i read this article ARMA3 they should get the two game developers out of prison and let them finish making ARMA 3 

Wreexx
Wreexx

See, i told you that they train soldiers by playing games...Wich is ridicoulous -.-

Sam-os_IMP
Sam-os_IMP

So real war is like Call of Duty?

AuronAXE
AuronAXE

Why don't they just play ArmA II? Or wait for ArmA III?

I don't think video games help train soldiers. The USA has some pretty bad combat training compared to the rest of the world, I think all they need to do is send less soldiers into the front lines of the Middle East and spend more time training them just like the used to during the Cold War. Video games are for entertainment, none of them realistically portray anything.

T-_-K
T-_-K

"simulation games that will look and play more like Call of Duty than the games already available"

lol CoD, yeah right 

Saketume
Saketume

They should try Minecraft

91210user
91210user

The first Team Fortness mod back in late 90s looked realistic. Realistic enough to make me laugh everytime I team killed a trooper!

Wreexx
Wreexx

@Juguard Yeah...Training them into killing machines, to be able to kill without emotions. I think its pretty fucking scary.

4blizzard
4blizzard

@DAOWAce  They will never, i mean NEVER be removed from office. You have a better chance at winning the lottery than seeing politicans 

1. tell the 100% truth

2. Care about the people they represent

3. All be removed from office

CrowScythe
CrowScythe

@marinerzz Yes, because military personnel are the only people in the world who buy and play videogames.

Brutal_Gamer97
Brutal_Gamer97

@BuBsay lol they'll lose alot of men because soldiers playing a call of duty like simulator would probably think they could spawn... HAHAHA! nahh just kidding.. but seriously.. why not battlefield? i'm not a fanboy or anything but in CoD it just seems i dunno -______-

Colekern
Colekern

@BuBsay No, he means the graphics and the way the character handles the weapons.

Gr3gSolidus
Gr3gSolidus

@Wreexx Not really, that's like saying aircraft simulators are for funzies which they most certainly are not.

Wreexx
Wreexx

@AuronAXE Excellent said. I think this is highly pathetic that they actually play war video games in the military...Wich like you said, is just for entertainment purposes, and not linking them to real life.

BuBsay
BuBsay

@Colekern @BuBsay Arma 2 on max settings is on par, if not better than, Call of Duty. And Arma 3 looks better than most other FPS's on the market right now.


And as for gun handling, the gun handling in CoD is so unrealistic it's laughable, where as Arma you get realistic bullet trajectories and ricochets etc. etc.

Wreexx
Wreexx

@Gr3gSolidus @Wreexx It just goes over the top already for me when we start training people into killing machines by playing games.

moonsrequiem
moonsrequiem

@Wreexx @AuronAXE Nothing against both of you guys but the main reason why they have the simulations is to train soldiers to shoot at a terrorist and not hesitate. Associating it like a game makes it easier for the private to pull the trigger. And as for my experience, I have been to Afghanistan. This simulation was a couple of years ago but yes it was dated. I'm hoping the Arma 3 engine will do what others couldn't.

spookysev
spookysev

@BuBsay @Colekern also zeroing and mildots but i guess cod fans will need to wiki that shit...point and shoot yawn!

blaze_boy30
blaze_boy30

@Colekern @BuBsay  Realistically speaking, do you really want to move more than 2 mph when you're firing a gun? I mean, if you can choose a target (at any range the gun will allow), adjust for wind and gravity while sprinting, more power to you. I've never fired a gun or been in a shootout before, but I'd like to believe soldiers are much more cautious (being stationary, taking cover,etc.) on the battlefield than the "run and gun until you die" seen in CoD since they've only got one life.

Colekern
Colekern

@BuBsay @Colekern When I said gun handling, I didn't mean bullet physics. I meant the fact that there's no way to move at more than a speed of 2 mph if you wanna fire your weapon

Wreexx
Wreexx

@moonsrequiem @Wreexx @AuronAXE They train you to be able to kill without any emotions arising...That is just pretty fucking scary in my opinion. They make us into robots.