Ancel still working on Beyond Good & Evil 2

Developer tells gaming conference he's keeping the team small to preserve artistic intent for long-awaited sequel, suggests release is still a ways off.

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More than two years ago, Ubisoft released the first--and to date, last--trailer for Beyond Good & Evil 2. The silence surrounding the project has been so thorough that rumors spread last August that development of the game had been put on indefinite hold.

The pig isn't stuck just yet.

Eager fans of the series are receiving a bit of good news and a bit of bad news today, as Beyond Good & Evil creator Michel Ancel this week confirmed that the game is still in development but isn't likely to see release anytime soon. According to a Eurogamer translation of a Montpellier in Game conference session (viewable at Crisy.fr), Ancel said he is working on the sequel with a small team "to preserve creativity and so the game doesn't become a commercial product, so that is has soul."

Just as Ubisoft created a toolset that is allowing a team of five to make the 2D platformer Rayman Origins, the publisher has Ancel working on a new toolset that aims to make 3D games viable for small teams. Unfortunately, the process is time-consuming, as Ancel apologized and asked for patience from the audience.

"It takes a bit longer," Ancel said, "but we're very keen to use this system with this game, because it's an ambitious game and we want to create something exceptional."

Released in November of 2003, Beyond Good & Evil won critical acclaim for its mix of traditional action adventure elements with stealth segments, a picture-taking gameplay mechanic, and an engaging story of a young woman pulled into a rebel faction to blow the lid off of an interstellar government conspiracy. Despite the accolades, the game was largely lost in a slate of holiday releases already rich in the action and adventure genres, including Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando, Jak II, Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy, I-Ninja, Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, and Ubisoft's own Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time.

Discussion

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The_Godfather_
The_Godfather_

Michel Ancel is a big developer. I'm sure he will make another classic game! Can't wait for it!

startazz
startazz

Just came looking for this game as i was wondering where it had got to,so now i know and i don't mind waiting for it as it sounds and look like it could well be worth the wait ;-)

ogara0c9
ogara0c9

I must have been on vaction at the time to miss this news. It still lives!

eyerok
eyerok

Good thing cuz the franchise needs to have the indie feel intact.

Gezquester
Gezquester

I love the first game! I've been waiting for BGE 2 for years, I am really looking forward to it! Good to know that the game is still being worked on!

runstalker
runstalker

ZIMdoom Posted Jun 28, 2010 7:39 am PT: "5 person team? No wonder it takes so long for them to make a game." Except this was the 2D Rayman Origins they were talking about re: the five-man team, not BG&E 2. Ancel merely suggested they're "working on a new toolset that aims to make 3D games viable for small teams--" like the Rayman Origins toolset simplifies 2D game building. But I guarantee you that more--a lot more--than 5 people are working on this sequel. Transpose the original BG&E into 360/PS3 grade presentation and breadth--presumably the sequel revisits popular design choices--and right there you're looking at fairly significant team resource needs. I imagine he has a couple dozen core staffers working intimately and exclusively on this, like the original.

3zone5
3zone5

Still need to play the first but I've never heard any bad comments about it, guess I'll save it up for a scorching summers day

nicktarist
nicktarist

@lee1823, no, we got your point. There are many games that don't belong in a bargain bin.

ZIMdoom
ZIMdoom

5 person team? No wonder it takes so long for them to make a game.

lee1823
lee1823

@nicktarist whilst not advertising your game (like the first one) would be very avante garde and cool (providing it be a success).... during a recessionary period it would not be a wise move... especially based on the poor sales and lack of promotion the first game got. Consumers aren't going to buy something if they are oblivious that it even exists, discounting the harcore among us. Promotion is down to the publisher, not the developer. Ubi will be calling the shots and it's their potential goldmine too. Without Ubi, the developers cannot release their game. Ubi's goal: to make as much cash as possible. I doubt a developer would have any say in promotion as it can have such a massive effect on sales. They certainly wouldnt be allowed to put a promotion embargo on the product. my comment on horsez 3 was a stab at the casual gaming demographic and really has nothing to do with horsez 3.... i don't even know if there is a horsez 3? or a horsez 2... doesnt strike me as an IP that requires a sequel? It just saddens me when great games end up in bargain bins for whatever reason whilst shovelware crap sells by the bucketload. That was my general point... maybe i should of written that instead of confusing people with paragraphs n all!

iNtoxXxiKated
iNtoxXxiKated

I feel like touching myself! The first one was one of the best, most engaging games I've ever played!

ryogapower
ryogapower

BGE was the best game no-one played maybe ever. i hope they avoid that situation this time round as sales shape gaming trends and i would love to see more games like this made rather than the the deluge of derivative games getting the green light. in order to avoid that they need to get the game out before what theyve made feels/looks dated. id say early 2012 by the latest is their window. hope they make it.

qubeley
qubeley

The first game was one of the most engaging experience I had in the action and adventure genre. The good part is a lot of the gameplay elements are weaved either into the story or environments / circumstance. That made it more engaging when you played it.

isahunt
isahunt

BGE1 has to be one of the most memorable games I've played.

kuda001
kuda001

Played the first and it actually wasn't that bad but i can't that remember much of it, but it's good to hear the sequel is still on.

MW2GhoST
MW2GhoST

Hope they didn't scrap this, Beyond Good & Evil is one of the best games I have ever played!

Cwagmire21
Cwagmire21

I would love to actually play the first one but it isn't BC. :(

nicktarist
nicktarist

@lee1823, As much as I admire your verve, I have to say that it isn't entirely necessary. Horsez 3 isn't the reason why Beyond Good and Evil didn't sell well. In fact, I can't say Horsez 3 has anything to do with Beyond Good and Evil. The creator probably requested Ubisoft not to advertise the game. Adverts often times create a bloated and unrealistic depiction of a game (or film) that can often times distort the quality of the product. Modern Warfare 2 may have been swell, but we can't deny that Activision's huge marketing campaign was the main reason the game hit record sales. That said, If I were to create a game, I would release it on the down low as well. If the game is good, I would want it to represent itself in terms of quality. In a way, I like the fact that the game is a niche title. Not that I would discourage anyone from playing the game. I find it empowering to know that I'm encouraging people to create black sheep. I like black sheep.

lee1823
lee1823

jesus... beyond good and evil was one of the best games i ever played. i really hope this isnt shelved, made into something more accessible for the dumb masses or hurt by an apparent lack of support. i was one of the few that purchased beyond good and evil and it's in my top ten games of all time..... it had everything. It all just brings me to the conclusion that most people are stupid. Stop buying Horsez 3 and buy a game that will change your perception of gaming forever. Beyond good and evil. You could get it for under a fiver now.... DO IT! also ubi - try and advertise this one a little - would only be appropriate since the original was possibly the best but least grossing game ever.

lightwarrior179
lightwarrior179

I don't mind how long they take as long as the project isn't shelved.

specta1989
specta1989

@slipperywhenwet6 that's my point, I know DNF was cancelled and that it was a very sad day!! I hope this doesn't happen to this game cause the first one was awesome beyond measure.

lock445
lock445

At least it wasn't canned. The creator there really speaks words of wisdom, as games today are mostly commercial and don't preserve the creative heart that this franchise does.

zMd113
zMd113

I still need to play the first one.

KoolGam3rKiiD
KoolGam3rKiiD

lol beyond good and evil came out 2003 and its 2010 i just realized how long i've been waiting for the sequel but atleast its in the making

da_chub
da_chub

its a real shame that even though it was a very popular GC title, u wont see it on Wii.

Kleeyook
Kleeyook

Glad to see it's still coming, thus I'm a bit irritarated at when.

fatooosh
fatooosh

Beyond Good and Evil 2 the best : )

sitnik
sitnik

I will wait as long as it takes too!!!

Adam_the_Nerd
Adam_the_Nerd

I will wait as long as it takes. YOU HEAR ME?! AS LONG AS IT TAKES.

addictedtochaos
addictedtochaos

Good to hear it is still in development, when it comes out I'll buy it on every system that it is on.

Settler87
Settler87

keep it up! ... i loved the first one SO MUCH!!! and will wait for the sequel forever........

zako94
zako94

i will wait 4years 5years

zako94
zako94

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sliperywhenwet6
sliperywhenwet6

@Specta1989 the thing is that DNF was canceld and Episode Three is taking so long I think they'll just make it Half Life 3.

specta1989
specta1989

I'll play Duke Nukem Forever, then Diablo 3, then Half Life 2 Episode 3 then some Beyond Good and Evil 2 ;-)

otanikun
otanikun

So it's gonna be like DNF?

GrimValentine
GrimValentine

oh and to add more extra game contant like downloadibly mission and ectra game content that other games have would be nice, like coutumes and so forth

GrimValentine
GrimValentine

well they put it in a nut shell, They took forever to annouce a sequal and now its the release date, if it won the critical acclaimed and was nomination for "Game of the Year" at the 2004 Game Developers Choice Awards, they would have though we the fan would want another game thats not only like the first but takes it even futher with more awesome combat moves, stealthyness, vehicals and places better graphic for the new game systems. Dont get me wrong hillys is huge but thier was some places i wished i could go to and land on, like past the barrier or on top of the slaughter house. And to actually fight and run on the beach and fields would have been cool. if Ancel has to take his time to produce a beyond good and evil 2 that will make me pass out like a sugar rush due to the sheer awesomness of holding the game box, and blow my mind after the first 20 minutes of play because is so damn good and makes me want to ignore life so i can know what happens at every turn it takes, Then i say take your time. but with that said if he take a long time and cover what i said but it turns out to be a very short game that you can beat in a day im going to be very pissed off, i want it also to be long.

Dynamo11
Dynamo11

Man I can't wait! Although I'll have to delay playing it cause I'll be busy with Duke Nukem Forever

hunter8man
hunter8man

I hope they take as much time as they need. I would rather get my money's worth playing an in depth sequel to a fantastic game than a poorly developed rush job just to bring in quick bucks. So long as the wait isn't absurd.

muppen
muppen

Glad to hear it.

edpeterson
edpeterson

That's good news :D I just hope it won't end up like Duke Nukem Forever

73X
73X

Great news. I'd like a sequel to 2008's Prince of Persia, too, Ubisoft!