Analyst: Sony's timing was perfect

EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich says the PlayStation 4 is a step "in the proper direction" for console gaming; predicts pricing won't be revealed until closer to launch.

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Video game insights and research firm Electronic Entertainment Design and Research (EEDAR) has weighed in on this morning's PlayStation 4 reveal.

EEDAR's vice president of insights Jesse Divnich said the industry has been starved of new technology and new properties for so long that Sony's timing in announcing its next-gen console was "perfect."

"We're excited and anxious," Divnich said.

"Judging by today's presentation, Sony is putting a strong focus on game content and connectivity, which is the lifeblood of any platform, and we are ecstatic that an entirely new generation of content is right around the corner. Today's announcement is a silver lining in what has been a somber year in the news for console gaming."

Divnich also weighed in on Sony's decision to announce its next-gen console ahead of competitor Microsoft, saying that while there are pros and cons to being first on the market, the current climate shows there was a definite need for innovation. With console sales stagnating and consumer interest in high-definition gaming waning, Divnich said Sony made the right decision to announce the PS4 now.

"Sony's best chance at changing momentum is being first to market. We can't stress enough to our third-party publishers [that] if you take a wait-and-see approach to the next-generation of HD platforms you will be left behind."

On the new DualShock 4 controller, Divnich expressed some concern that it could become a gimmick. However, he stated that if developers could find a way to use the controller to give players an edge in certain games (quicker grenade tosses, camera angle movements, inventory access, and so on), the controller could become a deciding factor in consumers' decision to purchase a PS4 version of a game over another platform.

However, Divnich praised the PS4's pause/resume feature, saying it will become one of the most "heavily utilized features" on the new platform.

Finally, Divnich said he was not surprised that Sony did not announce pricing for the PS4 just yet.

"For competitive reasons, I am not surprised that pricing was not discussed," he said. "I think Sony learned a valuable lesson with the launch of the PlayStation 3 and I wouldn't expect the same mistakes to be made next generation. We wouldn't expect pricing announcements until closer to launch."

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Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

Please, for the love of all that is journalistic integrity would Gamespot please stop posting articles about "Analysts".

They either state the obvious or just plain BS! And these people get paid?? They actually allowed to call that a job title?? There are poor people all over the world and these people get paid to look at a green box and tell you "the box is green".

Sometimes I wish I was a supervillain because the world is in dire need of purging.

Davhut
Davhut

Well thats torn it, now by not announcing a price point, Sony has allowed Microsoft to drop a poisoned pill into the mix by coming in with a painfully low price point to make Sony flinch.  Oh this whole soap opera just got better.  Can't wait to see what the game plan will be from Microsoft. They really have been set a task though, because based on the PS4 specs, Microsoft are going to really have to go some to compete.  Loving It !!!!!!!!!!!! 

CaptainGamespot
CaptainGamespot

It was good timing, I'm expecting a $400 model for myself, with maybe a $300 or $350 basic model for the masses.

jark888
jark888

I agree with Sony right timing attitude. Launching PS4 now is one of the ways to further ensure that Wii U sell won't see a bright day easily.

Now, Microsoft will be the key decision maker on how much further the next generation of consoles will leap forward. Sony probably keeps more of PS4 selling points up its sleeve. There will be an interesting console war this year at E3!!!

SavoyPrime
SavoyPrime

Sony is off to a pretty good start. Gonna be very interesting to see what Microsoft does now.

TheZeroPercent
TheZeroPercent

the higher the price the better hardware itll be

im willing to pay top dollar for a high end true 8th gen console


SmashBrawlerBoy
SmashBrawlerBoy

Well, seeing as they haven't yet announced the price, and time so far as we know only moves forward, I don't see any way the price announcement could possibly NOT be closer to  launch. A truly foolproof prediction.

JusXice
JusXice

i thought the perfect timing will be close to holiday season between September - October to me February is kinda early and they pretty much they play all their cards leaving the console out 

I know E3 is in the summer if i can recall and i guess Microsoft will reveal there 

they usually say leave the best for last idk 

TurboGuru
TurboGuru

Had to rub my eyes for a second.... an analyst who for once doesn't chat bullshit?

Totally agree, perfect timing, game on MS, watcha got?

rafaelszpo
rafaelszpo

Divnich also weighed in on Sony's decision to announce their next-gen console ahead of competitor Microsoft, saying that while there are pros and cons to being first on the market, the current climate shows there was a definite need for innovation." 

Nice to know they discarded the Wii U without any cerimony. XD

Kiaininja
Kiaininja

Even though what Sony showed was pretty impressive I can't but think many of the features they hyped might get downsized or cut which their history of these events had showed. Anybody remember the PS2 event when Sony hyped that it was going to have Toy Story Graphics. -_-

watchuwa
watchuwa

prolly wont even sell as much as the wiiu

TTDog
TTDog

My usual online store are taking pre-orders this morning listing a UK price (recommended) of £449.99 which is more than the PS3 launch price which was sooooo sucessful for them (it's hard to write sarcastically) last time.

wubeikk
wubeikk

I'm wondering how much of the 8GB DDR5 will be left for games after running all the background services or how much is reserved for them. Don't get me wrong, I will probably buy PS4 when compared to rumors about Durango. I own PS3.

But no backwards compatibility with PS3, I'll wait at least one year to buy one for me. Few second hand games/price drops and much more tiles announced. I will not buy ~500$ paper weight. To many games left to play right now, on this generation.

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

Couldn't agree more.. Sony have saved some 'ammo' for E3 this way.

Considering they haven't even shown the console and yet they've drawn this much hype is pretty damn spectacular considering how bad Sony usually advertise :P

I think we can all safely predict Microsoft will 'win' this E3 as they're the only contenders left to reveal.  I wouldn't be surprised if Sony pulls out a few more unannounced games though just to keep things in the limelight..


maddog123
maddog123

E3 is going to be interesting this year. 


wexorian
wexorian

I love anal too gamespot.

Johny_47
Johny_47

I think the console and the price will be revealed at E3, I'm really hoping to see it there and so many games, not just for ps4 but everything.


I'm mostly looking forward to games that probably won't even be announced / shown(quite sad really) like a new Need for Speed Underground like the older ones, a new Midnight Club, Freedom Fighters 2 and a new Jak & Daxter just to name the main ones.

DarkSaber2k
DarkSaber2k

"predicts pricing won't be revealed until closer to launch." NO SHIT!

highlanderjimd
highlanderjimd

Welcome to 2007 Sony Fanboys. Enjoy your shitty framerates and upscaled mess, oh wait this is "next gen" or is it?And in 2007 games were already 60fps. something the PS4 dont appear to be capable of LOL

elsmitty
elsmitty

However, Divnich praised the PS4's pause/resume feature, saying it will become one of the most "heavily utilized features" on the new platform. 

 Wtf?

LockDeltz
LockDeltz

Timing is terrible, the Wii U doesn't have any of the rumored restrictions of the PS4, and it's not selling well, and neither is the Vita.  Video game sales have dropped significantly due to the economic crisis, $60 retail video games, and all the anti-consumer business practices done by Sony, MS, and Nintendo. 

If the economy ends up being worse in November and games are still retailed at $60, sales for the PS4 will be slow. 

zyxahn
zyxahn

The only thing I don't like about new console launches is making sure I get one on launch day, other than that I love it !!!!

zyxahn
zyxahn

What was that PS4 on the big screens ???  So all of the games were PS3 games or Vita games maybe ???

Hellhound30x
Hellhound30x

One as a gamer, totally excited over Sony officially announcing the playstation 4.

two. I'm totally excited for some of those launch titles.

three. I can't believe there are people on this forum crying about the little things...

four. if they can't be excited over Sony's reveal yesterday, then they should probably look for another hobby, because man, I am so excited!

horizonwriter
horizonwriter

@watchuwa It depends on what titles they launch with and the short-term game release schedule.  It looks like Sony's learned quite a lot of lessons over this generation and have probably been looking at the mistakes Nintendo made with it's Wii U launch as well.  I don't think Sony or Microsoft will stumble out of the gate, and I have a feeling that both will have very strong E3 presentations this year.

surferosh
surferosh

@TTDog 

dont read too much into it yet.. many places have tentative prices way before the official ones are out.. and then their tentative ones are changed to reflect the official one.. the 450 was a dollar figure that was being speculated on a couple of weeks ago.. in UK we will probably be looking at 320-350 mark

Tech-head
Tech-head

@wubeikk 

The PS4 has dedicated chips to run several of the background processes from what they said during the cast.

surferosh
surferosh

@warhawk-geeby not to mention showing the actual device.. and announcing a few more suspects like Uncharted 4 and other stuff..

infamous13579
infamous13579

@wexorian You bash every PS4 post.Do you have anything else to do in your life besides playing WOW and bashing things you do not like?

surferosh
surferosh

@highlanderjimd i mean seriously dude.. keep posting the same shit in various threads and responses.. u got nothing better to do in life than "copy-paste" ??

Sefrix
Sefrix moderator

@highlanderjimd I am assuming you are attempting to compare a console to a PC? There is a reason every single console maker has made it to where games are played uniquely (kinect, move, touchpad, gamepad, etc. etc.) because they, and everyone else know that you can't compete by specs and it would be stupid to do that anyway. You aren't saying anything someone doesn't already know.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to complain about the horsepower of mopeds because motorcycles have more.

CMakaCreative
CMakaCreative

This is a feature I personally would be using heavily. My wife likes to dominate the bedroom tv where my PS3 is. I've either had to hear her nag the whole time I'm looking for a save point or just turn off a game mid play just so I wouldn't have to hear her nag. Now, I can just turn it off with no consequence like I do with the PSP, PS Vita & 3DS...that's awesome. Once she's passed out, just turn it back on, no waiting for to boot up & most importantly, continue where I left off.

surferosh
surferosh

@elsmitty 

loading times at start up are frustrating.. the PSVita has a similar system in place already and i was very impressed with it and wondered if it could be used on a bigger console.. and now we have it.. 

jenovaschilld
jenovaschilld

@LockDeltz The economy is bad, least we are not in a recession and everyone has to look at discretionary spending with a sharp eye these days. But according to game analysts the video game industry has, for the most part, weathered the economic downturn very well. 

What it hasn't weathered well at all is the extended console/pc cycle (7th generation) that started back in 2005. While a gaming generation is not a standard 5 years, historically it has been shown after peak penetration, all sales quickly begin to slow.  Buyer apathy, lack of new IP's, lack of energy, and lack of innovation in the industry has done more harm then anything. 

While the hardcore gamer, heatseekers, early adopters do not make up the largest % of video game sales they do drive and navigate the video game sales more then anything. Very much like the electronic, automobile, fashion industries. When they see their big brother in college playing gears of war or modern warfare- young kids put down their lego games, harry potter games, and gravitate toward what is new and hot - same with consoles. 

I think regardless of economy or even prices - come late october, early november, all of the next gen consoles will sale just fine. 


surferosh
surferosh

@Strider8009 

dont think so.. i know Sony has a patent for a technology to do so.. but they know very well that if they go ahead and implement it, sale numbers will be a MASSIVE disappointment..

surferosh
surferosh

@zyxahn  same here dude.. but part of the reason for that is that i dont know which part of the world i will be in when the console launches... if i remained in the UK, then it is a no brainer.. but if i have moved to Oz or India by then, then there might be a delay. but i purchase i will...

surferosh
surferosh

@Hellhound30x totally agree mate... quite surprisingly there are many whingers and dissatisfied people on the forums.. i am excited about the way things are going.. i am sure sony could have come out with more technical bang and stuff but that would just raise the cost of production and cost to gamers, something neither party wants.. 

dualshock is headed in teh right way.. longer handles, rubberised grip, slightly curved triggers, and dimpled thumbsticks all make for a more ergonomical controller.. the touch pad does not get in the way and neither does the motion sensor.. it is now upto the devs to figure out a way to use it nicely.. would be better if they were customisable. like say for example using touchpad to bring up a menu.. or use melee attack, which i always fumble on the buttons..

lot of promise shown my Media Molecule and Quantic Dream.. plenty to be excited about.. Killzone can actually give the new Halo and Destiny a tough competition in the visual department.. love the way they have used blue shades and glass to convey a futuristic look to the city..

well, you just cant satisfy everyone.. but i reckon Sony have a hit on their hands with this one.. they only need to price it right, get good games at launch and not have an Xbox Live kind of subscription mandatory for online play.. they can stick to the existing model with PSPlus as premium service for those who want extra stuff.. 

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

@surferosh Naughty Dog is the main reason I'm getting a PS4, whilst they're with Sony I'm staying a loyal customer, the folks are geniuses!

TenraiSenshi
TenraiSenshi

@infamous13579 Now, now, I'm sure he goes to the bathroom as well. You know, when he needs it reaaaaaaaal bad. 

Sefrix
Sefrix moderator

@surferosh @elsmitty And it acts like an instant save which is awesome! If I can't finish the boss battle, and don't want to continue on a Vita I can just pause it and then when I can play again resume and I'm instantly back in the game where I left off.

highlanderjimd
highlanderjimd

@surferosh @Hellhound30x ppl are moaning coz the quality shown was 5 years out of date. A 500 pound PC is far beyond twhat the PS4 is capable of, and most PC gamers were looking at visuals like the PS4 demos in 2007 but with a smooth 60fps, not the 20-30fps crapfest we saw last night. Even watch dogs was stuttering now it was running on the ps4 hardware not the PC they had setup at the show last year. Horrible news for consoles is that they have hardly pushed the boat out, its all social networking this, poncy facebook that. Where are the exciting gaming features? Whats wrong with a console being for GAMES! Consoles have turned into shit. Im so glad I have my snes and megadrive

warhawk-geeby
warhawk-geeby

@surferosh Haha.. Yeahhhh.. I was hoping Starhawk was going to be Warhawk in space, but it turned out to be a major disappointment in comparison.  Warhawk was EASILY one of the best games of this gen though, split-screen 4 player in a 32 player online match was brilliant fun!

surferosh
surferosh

@warhawk-geeby

you da man dude !!!!!

and oh, Warhawk was awesome too !!! wasnt too caught on by its brother Starhawk.. but loved Warhawk to bits !

96augment
96augment

@highlanderjimd @surferosh @Hellhound30x The console does have games. Did you not hear about the new Infamous or Killzone? If you like PC gaming so much, why aren't you playing on the PC instead of whining about consoles?

CloWnCircus
CloWnCircus

 @highlanderjimd Interesting that you say that Watch_Dogs was choppy and that the PC was smoother, guess what genius, the creator said on Spike TV that the demo revealed yesterday was running on a PC. Shows how much of an ignorant you are.

surferosh
surferosh

@highlanderjimd @surferosh @Hellhound30x 

also, if you are glad with ur SNES and Megadrive, why are u even complaining about the graphics on the PS4 ??? surely the SNES has much more dated visuals than the PS3 or your 500 quid PC, doesnt it ??

surferosh
surferosh

@highlanderjimd

this is a console as Hellhound as put it.. why do we even have to compare it to a PC ?? we all know any current gen console will ALWAYS be behind the top end PC of that gen.. and as for 500 pound PCs playing the same stuff, i doubt if many of those 500 quid PCs will show the graphics as smoothly as you will get on the console, for which u pay a bit less. all top end PCs for high end graphics will cost around 800-1000 at least.. besides, even if you do get the components for 500 how many do you think will have the time, patience and the skill to assemble it ?

this is where consoles have a market share.. the whole argument of comparing it to a PC is unjustified to say the least.. 

i play both on my PC and my console.. there are specific games for which i prefer a particular format.. and the console games look fantastic as far as i am concerned...

Sefrix
Sefrix moderator

@Hellhound30x Exactly. It's like complaining about mopeds because they don't have the same hp as a motorcycle. I primarily play on my PC but I also love my PS3. Comparing a personal computer to a box meant to play games and stream some stuff while offering a unique way to play it is just stupid. Why not complain about calculator games because they aren't as good while you're at it.