All Call of Duty gamers should play multiplayer, says designer

Treyarch's David Vonderhaar says it "bugs the sh** out of" developer that many do not spend time with multiplayer; new Combat Training mode aimed at bringing in new players.

According to Treyarch design director David Vonderhaar, every person who plays this year's Call of Duty: Black Ops II should log time in the game's multiplayer mode. In an interview with Activision's One of Swords blog, Vonderhaar said the game's updated Combat Training mode was developed as a means to bring more players into the virtual battlefield.

Treyarch wants Call of Duty's multiplayer ranks to rise.

“As popular as [Call of Duty] is, there are a lot of people who don’t play [multiplayer],” Vonderhaar said. “And quite frankly, this bugs the sh** out of us. They should all play [multiplayer]. And Combat Training helps us get there.”

Treyarch updated Combat Training for Black Ops II in a number of ways, the first of which is that the first ten levels gamers gain in this mode will transfer over to players' public ranking. Gamers can also earn experience points (XP) beyond level 10 for objective-based gametypes in Combat Training, but only at a 50 percent XP accrual rate.

Black Ops II hits store shelves for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC on November 13, with a Wii U release following on November 18. A PlayStation Vita game--Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified--is due sometime this fall.

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Shanks_D_Chop
Shanks_D_Chop

Then make a decent MP again. Modern Warfare and WaW, on PC, had good MP modes, I spent many an hour on them.

Then came MW2 which had horrible lag, few options for tweaking match settings and, worst of all, a hugely reduced player count. MW and WaW could have 32vs32, it was epic. MW2 crippled that, brought it down to 9vs9. What the fuck? There are other reasons that CoD MP sucks these days but others have already been there so why bother...

Besides, I really enjoy the single player of CoD games even if they are a little frustrating sometimes. It's a good cinematic experience and it pulls me in. That's why I play the new titles, not for the MP at all.

TifforJack
TifforJack

Why so others can make Swiss cheese outta me with one bullet, shot through a building and so elegantly penetrating itself "ghostly" through a rock in front of me, as I slow motion die from this "special" ballistic....haha....I play MP cause I like to see how many times and ways I can be killed and how long I "don't" last....0h what fun it is!!fun!fun.....

Briffault
Briffault

Awwww, it bugs the sh&* out of them, that's such a heart breaker. Well, it's not really the designers' fault that people don't play MP. A lot of people don't play MP because they enjoy a storyline, no matter how simple it is, and having teammates that actually fit into that storyline (no matter how bad the AI may be). They don't enjoy having to put up with online ADHD, you know, the kid running around knifing people, or the idiot singing into his mic, or that fellow who's constantly yelling at others for not playing "his way". MP doesn't appeal to everyone, so suck it up and don't use this as an excuse to skimp on the single player. Call of Duty was originally meant for BOTH MP and SP.....not just one or the other.

nuke1984
nuke1984

Make a better game if you want it to appeal to a different player base. I enjoy COD games as well, but nobody can deny its the same rehashed content over and over and over,  Add skill based servers if you want. Why pit a team full of new people vs a team full of level 50 presti's?  The new people in all likelyhood will be destroyed thus pushing them from the game.

Darkfibre
Darkfibre

Single player has some distinct advantages. You play when you like, you can stop at any point and you do not have to suffer idiots.

Scottisme
Scottisme

Could help but laugh when I read this, seriously who buys COD these days and doesn`t play MP, there`s over a million people playing it why would they care if some don`t paly it they get there money and I assume the people are happy no to play it.

bmart970
bmart970

Well seeing as the campaign isn't really that good or long or challenging, that's the only other option for this game.

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

games designed so that any idiot can play means that if you know how to play everything has been stripped out so that you cant suplex the noobs.

 

This mentality has dumbed down the gaming comunity to the point where honestly i doubt they can get any dumber, but im surprised by new levels of stupidity all the time, so we'll see if the world can simply get any worse.

charlyk88
charlyk88

Yeahh, sure, I'm playin' it right now.....

Oh, wait, I'm playin' Battlefield 3

dreamfist11
dreamfist11

"People should not play Call of Duty period" says Dreamfist designer

Sniper
Sniper

Call of Duty multiplayer: Hear juvenile idiots swear. Run in virtual circles, like some breathless rodent stuck inside a military marketing maze. Shoot, kill, die. Shoot, kill, die. Shoot, kill, die. Meaningless twitching against obnoxious fat bodies, who fear women and fantasize about war, is not my idea of entertainment. Perhaps I would be inclined to accept multiplayer if Treyarch made it less vulgar.

muppen
muppen

And people who tell me what I should and should not play bug the sh** out of me.

g-man_III
g-man_III

COD4!! If its not broken dont fix it!!!

King_Jeremy_77
King_Jeremy_77

Screw multiplayer, single player is where it's at for me, that's why i don't buy COD games, single player doesn't last as long. I want games with great stories and a lengthy single player campaign. I'm not shelling out 60 of my hard earned dollars for multiplayer and a short single player campaign.

West123
West123

oh my gosh soooo many reason why people don't play multi player ! but my Favourite reason is that they dont want to and there is nothing anyone can do about that

x_hunter00
x_hunter00

Well the reason why people don't like playing multiplayer is that they most likely suck and get destroyed online.

ghost688
ghost688

Call of Duty don't have character costumization. bloody hell.

TacticaI
TacticaI

And what would Activision and Treyarch stand to gain from people who already buy their game, dedicating themselves to multiplayer? Hmm, let me think. This is a tough one. 

DevaGolgotha
DevaGolgotha

My god.  Stop bitching and take the brainwashed public's money, please.  People can use your merchandise however they feel.

TxtBin
TxtBin

It bugs the **** out of us that you give us the same old crap every year!

S0ulReav3r
S0ulReav3r

more people multiplayer more DLC's being sold... wp wp activi$ion. I guess the next cod might finally get a new engine..from scratch ????/ uhmm when i think i about it i don't think so...

farcorners
farcorners

“As derivitive as [Call of Duty] is, there are a lot of people who still play [it],” I said. “And quite frankly, this bugs the sh** out of me. They should all play [original titles]."

superkadeemx
superkadeemx

"bugs the shit out of us" Super Mario being compared to you fucks bugs the shit out of me.

Reuwsaat
Reuwsaat

“And quite frankly, this bugs the sh** out of us." I paid you, if I want to take a dump on my disc I shall do as I please, worry about making a single decent game (which clearly doesn't have been happening) and not what I do with my life.

raahsnavj
raahsnavj

exactly the reason I don't buy CoD games. I know they want me to play multiplayer and their single campaign shows as much. I don't get why people are even complaining about his comments. Just quit buying the game if it wasn't made for you. I don't give these guys any of my money anymore for this reason alone. 

 

Let me know when someone makes a meaningful FPS again without all the multiplayer tacked on.

JulyAeon
JulyAeon

multi player is the cancer of good single player games.....and it brings out the worst in some gamers. and it is so stagnant....

Gazdakka
Gazdakka

It bugs the shit out of me that you guys are still releasing the same, stupid, barely unmodified game every goddamn year. Mind fixing that problem first?

Mokuba34
Mokuba34

Nice way to put your foot in your mouth :P not everyone enjoys playing online with 12yr olds that yell and scream into the mic *sigh*

 

I do enjoy private online when i got the time with people i know so i can enjoy myself and have a good chat over the match

TimboII
TimboII

That's a pretty stupid comment really...doesn't he know multiplayer isn't for everyone? Also different multiplayer games appeal to different people....that's why we have such a thing as choice....

SS1Link
SS1Link

At first I thought him saying "Not playing mutiplayer" was a typo and he meant Single Player...

Powerwalk
Powerwalk

I miss the good old days when not every thing was COD or trying to be COD what happened to FPS games they are so liner now.I replayed all the doom games and I must say I found the levels in the original doom to be more creative/challenging and the maps are not liner. I like a game to have a good Single player campaign and not to go for 4 hours. Anyone remember Turok 2 on the n64 that was epic as.

theKSMM
theKSMM

I wonder if the Treyarch guys have considered how much of their customer base may not have the ability to play games online.  There are still many console gamers who don't have high-speed Internet, do not have their console hooked up to the service that they have, or have service that is not reliable enough to support low-latency multiplayer gaming.  For these people, there are technical limitations.

 

I have friends whose consoles are in separate rooms from their modems with no Wi-Fi, so they aren't hooked up.  I have friends whose hours get cut on their jobs, and they have to let go of their Internet service...they don't log on for months.  So there are financial limitations too.

 

From a business standpoint, I understand the desire to get people hooked on multiplayer.  Games with high multiplayer penetration have longer legs (i.e. they tend to sell well over a longer period) and there aren't as many used copies floating around from people who beat games quickly and then resell them to the stores.  Even now, trying to find a used copy of CoD4: Modern Warfare can be difficult despite the fact that millions of them were sold (and it's still selling today).  But not everyone has the means to join the ranks of multiplayer even if they have the desire.

AlexFili
AlexFili

People don't play multiplayer? What?! With all due respect to Mr Vonderhaar, this doesn't seem to match my personal experiences. I can't be the only one thinking that Black Ops was pretty much the most played multiplayer game when it was released on the 360? Heck even Black Ops on the Wii and the DS still have a good userbase!

 

If they really want more people to play, they should make the DLC maps free and have weekly challenges, like Mass Effect 3 does.

maxwell97
maxwell97

Okay, to the folks seemingly offended by this comment - did you stop to think that maybe what he meant is "it bugs us that we didn't make it more appealing to new players?" Why would you assume that he's criticizing the gamers, not himself and his team? Oh, that's right, because we're all supposed to be outraged every time a dev opens his mouth. When did my fellow gamers turn into a bunch of grumpy old men sitting on the Internet porch yelling at the neighbors? Chill the hell out.

Zanoh
Zanoh

I got a rebuttal: Actually put more bloody effort in Single Player. How about have a co-op mode based story that actually makes you feel like you are in a big war setting. That every action counts and great team work is essential?Sure the mainstream gamers would buy your annual release title, but frankily I'm sick of it. 

xdude85
xdude85

How about making a great campaign instead.

DaNubianPryns
DaNubianPryns

I'm so sick of zombies. When will this fad die already? lol

DaNubianPryns
DaNubianPryns

They really should just release a MP only version already, because they don't care about the campaigns as much.

scorpi13
scorpi13

I've never bought a game because it featured a multiplayer mode. Most of the time people in online games are real maniacs who are playing those games 24 hours a day non-stop. I remember trying to play a death match in Modern Warfare 2 on X-Box Live. I wouldn't last 3 seconds before someone would shoot me down. This is one of the reasons why I prefer Campaign Mode over Multiplayer Mode. At least I can go at my own pace. 

KerrinScott
KerrinScott

Dave,I liked your other game, but, please, shut it.Let people enjoy your product how they see fit. Stop trying to force e-games and CODcasting etc. down everyone's throat. We get it. It's the thing all the cool kids are doing. Okay. That's great. But, seriously, no one cares what you think about how they experience your IP. Just be happy they flock, by the millions, to do it and OFFER SOME THANKS...

DEagle267
DEagle267

The MP in any game would be more appealing if there were a way to apply age filters in matchmaking and keep all the 10 yr olds on their own separate servers. Of course, there wouldn't be any way to verify that their stated age was their actual age. 

Gam1nG_W1zard
Gam1nG_W1zard

every1 should play MP because it gives you something 2 do after the campaign which is pretty short.. I don't see y ppl wouldnt play it, its fun jus 2 get on and destroy noobs with your friends

Colekern
Colekern

Yeah right. Try playing one round on COD on my internet. I dare you.

cephas90
cephas90

Oh I'm sorry, is my fascination with story irritating to you?  Well guess what?  I don't BUY your games.

Jedilink109
Jedilink109

I think the Call Of Duty multiplayer looks exactly the same as the multiplayer on almost every FPS out there now so it doesn't stand out to me in any way.  I also have too many games to get through to play multiplayer.  I just want to get through the story modes and then I move on to the next game.  If I didn't have so many I want to finish I wouldn't care so much about playing multiplayer.

DESTROYRS_F8
DESTROYRS_F8

I think Devs should do more single player DLCs rather than f***in maps.  Even if you buy new maps, half (if not almost all) the content people bought will be voted off and unplayable until a couple of months.  I still can't see why you cannot have a fanbase/community create mods/maps for free for consoles like they do on all other FPSs on PC format.

Tidal_Abyss
Tidal_Abyss

I (and most my gamer friends- all adults) never play cod mp- a few of us are strictly sp, and the others are mostly sp but occassionally indulge in a little local co-op. The last few cod games haven't let you install the sp seperate from the multi, will automatically start both- I just stop the mp load and let the sp finish- no doubt they're trying to force your hand, hoping probably that some would be tempted to try if it's already loaded. Mp these days is about the least appealing part of gaming to me.

 

It's a game, supposed to be fun- especially after a long day- I'll do it my way and not worry what some money grubber thinks of it. (Wondering if I should even bother with BLOPS2- the first one had such a boring sp I didn't finish it and that's never happened in a cod game yet- but I've been thinking of trying to pay it another visit, see if I can bare to finish this time).

 

The reason he probably wants people to check out single player is to get them hooked and hope they buy map packs- but, news flash- you can play those sp as well! lol.

McDog3
McDog3

Does this man not understand there are those out there who simply want a good single player experience?  Or to only be playing with friends who can sit down with you at the same tv?  I don't play CoD, but if I did I know I wouldn't be playing multiplayer for sure.