Aliens vs. Predator won't be edited for Australia

Rebellion will not tone down violence "for territories where adults are not considered by their governments to be able to make their own entertainment choices."

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Australia's Classification Board has developed a reputation in recent years for its draconian stance on violence in games. This week, the Classification Board effectively banned Sega and Rebellion's Aliens vs. Predator by refusing to grant it an MA 15+ rating, the highest allowable for games. According to the board's decision, AVP's depiction of "explicit decapitation and dismemberment as well as locational damage" was a primary factor for the game's ban.

Australia's Classification Board has decided to not let adults Down Under see what's about to happen next.

Many developers, including Valve and Bethesda, opt to censor their products by toning down the violence to adhere to the Classification Board's standards. However, Rebellion has decided to simply not release AVP in the region. In a statement, the UK-based studio noted that it was upset that the game was refused classification but said that it will not be altering the game to make it acceptable by the Classification Board's standards.

"Rebellion is disappointed that its upcoming title Aliens vs. Predator has been banned in Australia," Rebellion said. "However, as we understand the law in that country, the authorities had no choice as we agree strongly that our game is not suitable for game players who are not adults."

"The content of AVP is based on some of the most innovative and iconic horror movies, and as such we wanted to create a title that was true to the source material. It is for adults, and it is bloody and frightening, that was our intent. We will not be releasing a sanitized or cut down version for territories where adults are not considered by their governments to be able to make their own entertainment choices."

Aliens vs. Predator is due to arrive elsewhere in the world this February for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC. For more on the game, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.

Discussion

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wbezuidenhout
wbezuidenhout

Awesome move!! I hope more developers will stick to their guns, shrug and say "Well, we created this for adults, we're not dumbing it down for some backward hick government, so we'll accept the ban and not sell it in your country". The more devs that do this, the more pressure will be put on Oz to introduce an R18+ rating. As long as devs bend over for the ratings board, the classification won't be seen as "necessary". Initially from all the bans the gamers in Oz will suffer, but that will cause them to unite along with the devs and get that R18+ rating introduced. And Steiner666, I'm with Dilley122, what are you smoking!? And even IF this was some viral marketing ploy, I couldn't care less, since it hasn't influenced my decision to buy the game anyway, I was always going to get it.

Dilley122
Dilley122

@steiner666 wtf drugs are u on, i want some

SirMordredX
SirMordredX

@placksheep You're right - It's almost like a rough beginning of a totalitarian government - where the government is viewed as the parent - and the citizens are viewed as the small children who must be guided so they don't fall down some stairs...

placksheep
placksheep

Being a gamer, if I was ever offered the chance to start a new job in Australia, I'd definitely think twice. How ridiculous is it that adults must accept a government body picking and choosing which games it deems appropriate? Censorship really sucks.

steiner666
steiner666

are you lot down under drunk on XXXX beer? amazingly, there's peeps working in the media industry, on the Aus Classification Board, Rebellion, Sega & Gamespot AU who are *friends*. yeah like wow. crazy concept I know. human beings in a circle of friends in the industry who actually talk to each other in private. bizarre, eh? the way i see it, these friends who work behind the scenes ON THE SAME TEAM made a profitable little deal to USE the Classification Board "banning" trick to SELL the game. *anyone* at Rebellion or Sega could've easily arranged with a buddy on the Board to deliberately kick up a stink in the press, knowing all along it was going to pass through anyway. result? not only do Rebellion & Sega get the advertising they wanted, Rebellion conveniently get to act & grandstand about how they're supposedly "fighting the system". i'm pretty sure those at Rebellion who profit from this publicity stunt are laughing at you all the way to the bank. but hey, don't mind me. forget critical thinking and logical thought. just carry on believing everything you read. but before you do, why not actually READ through the entire article again, carefully, instead of making up fantasies in your own mind about Rebellion taking on the heart of Australian Government? don't get me wrong, this wouldn't be a bad thing if it ACTUALLY HAPPENED & was TRUE but where does it say that in the article? read it again. THE CAKE IS A LIE. like Christian Bale said, "THINK for one ****ing second!"

Holyknight_CJ
Holyknight_CJ

I've already read this article before, but clicked the link to read Rebellion's statement again because it's just so full of win. I feel for you Australian gamers out there.

LordFinigan
LordFinigan

As many previous posters have stated...good for you Rebellion. I'm glad that you stuck by your guns.

Hermes33
Hermes33

Rather than say "Wow! Well done Rebellion for sticking to your principles! Good on ya!", I am just going to say how utterly disgusted with you I am for dumping this viral marketing campaign of yours on us. Whoever was responsible should be sacked and exposed - I don't feel like buying anything from Rebellion/Sega ever again after this. Fake marketing where you have to lie to sell something just puts me off, I don't care how awesome the game is. For anyone else reading this who isn't a Sega/Rebellion employee (or anyone else with a conflict of interest), watch this video clip on YouTube about how "news" stories in Australia are taken as fact without even checking and how gullible Australian media (like Gamespot AU?!) is: search YouTube for "Hungry Beast - Gullible Australia Gullible Media" or just watch it here at www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMQCcOSfaYw

jer_1
jer_1

lol, awesome!

juujuuman
juujuuman

Well.. If the government thinks that this game is not sutable for there people then by all means.. I mean if the government will not account there people as Adults then thats fine by me. Its up to the people to actually pull together and get then game un-baned.. or they could just import it lol

taner_123
taner_123

Such bulls**t man. I was really really looking forward to playing this game and now I cant because of a bunch of scared cats called the board of classification banned it!!!!!! so unfair man. who cares about toning down the violence. the more violence the more fun. the creators of the game are bringing the game back to its roots! which is straight scary as f**k. Even though Im probably going to import it lol, Im still pretty pissed off about banning it.

Oz_Pvt_Parts
Oz_Pvt_Parts

I think that most gamers who voice their opinions over this issue are generally very biased towards the OFLC, or (much more likely) those who want an R18+ category in Aus (which, by the way, is a great country to live in). Nobody I've seen seems to consider both sides of the equation. While the lack of an R18+ rating is unfair on Aussies, everybody must remember that not only the OFLC is to blame... most people who work there are only doing their jobs. And blame also rests with the developers of these banned games... failing to fully consider their target audiences is a MASSIVE mistake. It is up to them to adjust their product(s) and meet expectations (in this case, either the removal of offending material for a subsequent edited version, or staying within the boundaries in the first place). Now, because of the failures of both the developers and the OFLC, gamers will look towards pirated versions.... bypassing the OFLC and denying the developers any profit. Nobody wins.

008Zulu
008Zulu

Few corrections, the OFLC doesn't have an R18 classification because South Australian Attorney General Atkinson doesn't want there to be one for two reasons 1: Everyone under the age of 30 are serial rapists who are one game away from triggering (See Yahtzee) 2: Atkinson doesn't believe parents are capable of raising their own kids.

AcidBlood83
AcidBlood83

As disappointed as I am that there won't be a local release (mainly for the loss of revenue to rebellion, as there will be other ways to get a copy of AvP...), I'm glad they are sticking by their 'vision' and not bowing to the draconian morons blocking an R18+ rating in Aus. Also, for anyone who hasn't seen it I recommend checking out the ABC News (10/12/09 at about 20mins in) segment on this > http://www.abc.net.au/tv/iview/. Hopefully it brings a bit more wide spread attention and understanding to this issue, and shows everyone just what an out of touch hypocrite Michael Atkinson really is.

sameera858
sameera858

This is Freaking Bull Sh#T! Why these classifiaction guys go and buy some balls. They just making life harder for everyone! I was waiting for this game for a long time! Now I'm totally Dissapointed! They censor all the R+18 games but I'm pretty sure they not going to change anything about how much R+18 XXX in their computers. Wonder if they like it when theiir favourite porn censored to a MA15+ one! Does it feel the same??? This is totally gay

DarxFlash
DarxFlash

absolute bull the SA premier and classifaction boeard should swan dive ofthe nearest cliff face around

ImOldGreg
ImOldGreg

Well done rebellion, God I hope this stupid country gets it head out of the late 80s early 90s game mentality wise! :(

Kashmere
Kashmere

Meh, just import it like all the other banned titles. No biggie.

seriousjoker93
seriousjoker93

Why do we have to let one attorney general decide what we can play? All the other AG's agree that Aus should have a R18 rating but little ol' Atkinson can basically veto that. I thought the majority ruled here?

jeebsr33gtst
jeebsr33gtst

this is a disgrace,its un Australian.....we can go out and buy R18+ movies but they wont let us buy R18+ games. seriously WTF is the problem here?the censors are hypocrites,how can you import violent movies but not games. its a dark time indeed for us aussies and i was looking forward to this game so much.

Twisted_Helix
Twisted_Helix

Does anyone know if NZ allow a R18+ rating for games? Did Left for Dead 2 get edited for NZ? If it wasn't edited, there is a good chance, AVP will be released in NZ. Fingers crossed people.

Kinda_1337
Kinda_1337

good work rebellion, don't bow to the out of touch fools that decree what is acceptable for people to play, i'm just sorry that they lose the revenue that would have been gained, a game i will be forced to pirate against my principals

Kavitron
Kavitron

This better come out in New Zealand as we always get shafted when a game gets banned in australia, case in point gta4

jeffeger
jeffeger

"Don't run with scissors in Australia" comment was awesome, well done.

Sunderas
Sunderas

I really don't care. Ppl will get their hands on the game anyway.

Motorhalo
Motorhalo

Dick Cheney must invite Michael Atkinson to go hunting one day, just has to happen.

bradcv8
bradcv8

Stuff them, just buy a copy from UK on ebay or something. this is the 21st century people they can't stop you from getting it

SAMARAI117
SAMARAI117

i was realy looking foward to this game. wats the point of an MA rating if u cant make it fun? now AVP aint coming here great. why do they let movies pass with this stuff? someone message me and tell me please!!!

SAMARAI117
SAMARAI117

look look look! there gonna make this gay like left 4 dead 2!

kandoriasu2
kandoriasu2

Soon enough we'll be only allowed to play 13+ games. But hey, we still got our clock towers, murdering, gangs ect... to keep us all entertained. I'm pretty sure this is what their government wants. Yet soon enough it's going to happen to a country near you so stay tooned.

king_serpent
king_serpent

@petri87 so, according to that logic slavery was okay. Just because the government has a law that does not make it correct. There are many laws in history that were cruel and or manipulative. This law does not seem like a big deal now, but small little laws like this can be used for much worse purposes. They are trying to make it illegal to even sell games like this online by controling what sites people go on. I am not saying all government is evil or that kind of stuff, but really this is taking a law in a bad direction.

NoHotAshes
NoHotAshes

Don't run with scissors in Australia

mabbb
mabbb

Definitely not a children's game . But the movies were not for children either . I liked all the movies but I can't buy this game being an Aussie. I don't see that I would actually have time to gloat over any gore in the game because the game is about suspense and being decisive .It is time for an adult classification for games as already for DVDs

steiner666
steiner666

WHY is almost everyone here saying how amazing Rebellion are? How do you know they didn't engineer and spin this "news" story in the first place? I agree with what someone said that Rebellion were in major deep doo doo after their Rogue "poop time" Warrior fiasco and, to quote from Predator, "cooked up a story and threw it into the meat grinder". Even IF the game is actually "banned" (or more accurately, has not YET got a 15+ rating), Rebellion don't care coz of the added hype, controversy and "free" advertising generated in the rest of the developed world! And like others have pointed out, it'll be sold via Steam or other online outlets anyway! What's wrong with you people? This is an OBVIOUS publicity stunt. Rebellion are NOT the "good guys" here, this is just good ol' viral marketing at it's best. Fair play to them I say and well done Rebellion for scamming you lot! Looking forward to the release next year, looks awesome.

gary234
gary234

More game companies should do the same.Take it or leave.

TheSnakeBelmont
TheSnakeBelmont

@ Petri87 duud chiliax thats my opinion.. i like to see that they stay straight in wot they think its right wether or not it goes against any institution and (at least 4 the moment) for them stayin tru to the fanchise its more importat that some extra munay: THOSE ARE BALLZ!!

Petri87
Petri87

@TLM16 - The australian goverment isnt oversteping its authority because they ARE the authority. Thats the law in their country and all who live there must abide by it. Im not saying its a good law, but a law is a law and untill its alterd thats what it will be. @TheSnakeBelmont - Do you think that the goverment really gives a flying **** if they release the game in Australia? This isn't Rebellion standing up to them, its them not wanting to alter their vision for the game and if the games banned somewhere they are not going to put up a fight and just not relese it there.

TLM16
TLM16

Good for them. Government oversteps its authority so often, what business is it of theirs what people do in the privacy of their own home?

yogibbear
yogibbear

I'm from Australia and i say YES THIS IS AWESOME. Thankyou Rebellion for sticking up for your game. Don't censor anything. Just don't release it if it gets RC'd and force the CRB and Michael Atkinson to finally come to their senses and realise how stupid they are. Give us something to complain to them about! Wicked :D

WolfyBrandon
WolfyBrandon

@ stooge_01, green_dominator, gamehog5, Cujo31 & spikepigeo Agreed. It's good to hear Rebellion isn't going to nerf the games expierence and will stay true to the source material. Sad it will be banned for the Aussie's, hope they can still get their hands on a copy anyway so they can enjoy the game as well. Props to Rebellion for keeping the gore. Pour it on this game big time guys, it deserves it! The more I see and hear about this game the more I am excited for it. Rebellion consider my copy of Aliens vs. Predator already bought!

EskimoMongoose
EskimoMongoose

Hermes33 "Yeah exactly, but It's almost too obvious. My guess is that Rebellion's management called an urgent meeting after their recent "Rogue Warrior" disaster and decided to use all and any tactics necessary to give themselves a needed sales boost. Yes, it's Max Clifford style advertising, but I think he's more subtle at it than this. Anyone else wanna play the "spot the viral marketing" game? " The truth is i would rather see this sort of thing than glorifying war rightwing style with backing music by eminem. At least this has the perception of principle.

stray18
stray18

Do you see me jumping on a #cking mushroom in a pluming suit thinking I am Mario in reality? No? The Classification Board of Australia is clearly as retarded as the people that think they can jump off a building and fly using a spell. BRING THE +18 games! FFS a kid can walk to the milkbar and get a pack of smokes but you think +18 games are going to kill people? I'm sick of these arguments the Classification Board make to keep these games back! ffs its one of the first games to use Dx11.

da_green_Dragon
da_green_Dragon

American Copies of this game will not run on Aussie consoles unless they are PAL.

stooge_01
stooge_01

Rebellion, I salute you. For them to stick with their own game and like they said "is true to the source material" is a bold act . Im just going to import it for PS3. Thank God for no region locks.