Aliens vs. Predator unbanned in Australia

Classification Review Board overturns initial ban due to violent content in Sega, Rebellion's actioner; game will be released down under with no changes.

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Sega and Rebellion's ratings saga for Aliens vs. Predator has come to a close on a positive note for gamers. Australia's Classification Review Board today reversed an earlier decision to ban the game, giving it an MA15+ rating with no content to be changed or removed.

Humans actually came out on top for this one.

The Rebellion-developed game for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC was initially refused classification at the beginning of December for high-impact violence. The board's ruling report stated: "The game contains first-person perspective, close-up depictions of human characters being subjected to various types of violence, including explicit decapitation and dismemberment, as well as locational damage, such as stabbing through the chest, mouth, throat, or eyes."

Following the ban, developer Rebellion made a statement claiming it would not release a "sanitized or cut-down version for territories where adults are not considered by their governments to be able to make their own entertainment choices."

Sega appealed the initial Classification Board ruling and today was successful in getting the game past the Aussie censors, making it legal to sell down under upon its release.

"It is with great pleasure that we announce the success of our appeal," said Darren Macbeth, managing director of Sega Australia. "We are particularly proud that the game will be released in its original entirety, with no content altered or removed whatsoever. This is a big win for Australian gamers. We applaud the Classification Review Board on making a decision that clearly considers the context of the game and is in line with the modern expectations of reasonable Australians."

Aliens vs. Predator will be released in February 2010.

Discussion

421 comments
Nashoba_Nowa
Nashoba_Nowa

you should be so proud of yourself loser_loel

GameShark9000
GameShark9000

@specta1989 I'm guessing that Aussie's government is just plain corrupt/stupid.

king_loei
king_loei

@bignick217 , why thank you :D

Nashoba_Nowa
Nashoba_Nowa

so you mean like the one you wrote. just because you don't like doesn't mean others wont. and for the record. the argument you just posted didn't really help anything. possibly because it was an argument itself. so if you want to ruin other peoples excitement on something they think will be great coming out don't do it here. could you do that for us? ans if you try to say this is an argument as well guess what? its a statement. and for the one who shares this "belief" with him, they aren't morons cause they think this game rocks. they just have different taste then you do. me? i think this game is going to be great. i guess i'm a moron too. people who act like you really make me laugh.

bignick217
bignick217

@king_loei LMAO I wish there was a bowing down smiley I could put here for your comment, because your response is impressive. Just giving you due props. Bravo! Your response to his "Look..Look...There's another moron who shares my beliefs so I must be right" link was better than mine.

king_loei
king_loei

@nublet1984 What's your point? I read the article. It doesn't prove anything. It's just one more man's opinion; no actual facts, no experimentation. I don't see how it supports your ideas other then the fact that you happen to agree with Jim Wallace. I'm glad that you can find examples of people who think like you, but that alone proves nothing. I don't know if you've ever actually learnt how to form a successful argument? This is simple stuff, dude. You identify your opinion, then you support it with empirical evidence. Also; I am unsure of whether or not to take your comment as sarcasm or as a compliment. I have decided on a compliment, because sarcasm always manages to drag an argument into a chaotic mess of insults and personal attacks. That's just no fun.

wbezuidenhout
wbezuidenhout

@Judza, truer words have never been spoken!!! I salute you sir! Thank you Rebellion for telling Oz censors to get bent, if more devs did this then it would put more pressure on Oz to introduce and R18+ rating!

Nashoba_Nowa
Nashoba_Nowa

thank you rebellion. we just can't have avp without its gore and violence. it just won't make the game for what it is. but is it edited for the US?

chechak7
chechak7

grat game i ve play old series and love to play this one 2

MadMan117
MadMan117

Austrailia rating board= full of immature babies. Left 4 Dead 2 ain't even that bad...

Judza
Judza

MASS WALL OF TEXT, 3 POSTS This proves just how inept the OFLC are at classifying games without an R rating in place. As a fan of the series, I will be preordering this ASAP, but I am now a little worried about the priorities of the OFLC with their double take on AVP. Considering that they are now allowing the complete version of AVP, I'd just like to point out to that clown Michael Atkinson, that this annoucement proves that minors still have easy access, and will always have easy access to mature content in this current system of game ratings. The OFLC cannot, does not and will not be able to rate games appropriately without the R rating brought in. If a game is rated R18+, shops CANNOT sell it to minors under the legal age. An R rating also informs the parents of said children; when they see material rated as such, they know that they are buying material that is not recommended for kids. But after the point of sale, it is out of the board's hands. If the parents knowingly buy the game for the kids, and the child is affected by it...THEN IT'S BAD PARENTING. If the retailer knowingly sells it to a minor and are caught, then massive charges can be brought upon them (like selling cigarettes, playboy mags, and liquor to minors). But after the point of sale, it is NOT the responsibility of the politicians to police what I possess in my home. CONTINUED BELOW

Judza
Judza

CONTINUED FROM ABOVE If I have R18+ movies at home, it is MY responsibility as an adult to ensure that minors in my house don't view them. Same with any playboy mags etc. But in the case of gaming...forget it, we can't even have R18+ in our homes, due to the out of touch SA Attorney General, Michael Atkinson. So either 1 of 2 (3) scenarios happen, 1. The game gets reclassified with a lower rating (MA15+) after some small changes are made. As a result, minors find it easier to get their grubby little hands on a game that they shouldn't be playing (not saying it turns them into murderers, just saying the content is more mature). As a result, the whole point that Atkinson makes about minors finding it harder to get games in the current situation is down the toilet (minors find it easier when the ratings are lax). 2. Gets banned outright. Which in turn hurts the Aussie gaming market (and any politician who denies the $$$ gaming contributes to the economy can go take a flying leap) because people either illegally acquire it through downloading or importing overseas. No purchases are made locally, and all that potential $$$ is basically denied. CONTINUED BELOW

Judza
Judza

CONTINUED FROM ABOVE As a result, minors still get their hands on it and Atkinson's point is still down the toilet. 3. Or in the case of AVP, the developers tell the OFLC to get stuffed, re-rate the game and treat the Australian gaming populace as adults. When considering the average gamer age is around 30 years old, this is NOT a misleading statement. But then the game is put onto the shelves like in case 1, and minors still get their hands on the game. With an R18+ rating, various games would be reclassified. Am I saying that I'll enjoy all the extra "violence" that comes with it...no. I'm saying it is much more informative for parents to know that the games they are buying are R18+ rated, rather than MA15+. I'm saying that the introduction of an R18+ rating would be a step in the right direction to keeping mature games out of minor's hands, rather than "attempting" to keep games out of Aussie hands. The only way this will ever come about is through the removal of Atkinson. If you live in his area, for the sake of Aussie gaming, vote him out. Then Australia may get out of the "dark age", and "communist view" it holds on gaming. PS. Just a thought for democracy here, but if one man can veto an entire 94% approval for the introduction of an R18 rating for gaming, then it is obvious he is abusing his position and pushing an agenda. He MUST BE VOTED OUT!

rincewind1814
rincewind1814

@ HighRisk12345 I completely agree that there is a huge difference between movies and games when it comes to questionable material. When you watch a movie that depicts something you disagree with you just have to sit through it, you have no say so in it. When playing a game you must make the conscious decision to do the act. This is where your argument falls apart though. The vast majority of games do not outright reward questionable behavior, it is most often portrayed in a true fashion. Doing an evil act may be easier and reap bigger rewards, but more often than not the negative consequences of that action always come back to haunt you down the road in-game. By allowing gamers to see what happens if they choose good or evil it reinforces the cultural belief that doing good is good. Yes, we may have programmed into our brains that by taking the lower road we can get what we want now, but that same programming tells us that in a few levels it will come back and bite us in the butt. On a completely different note, mature games deserve to have mature content. Not many people here would say that Aliens vs. Predator is a game for 14 year-olds, it's a game for adults. Adults that have the right to watch and play what they want. If Disney put out a game depicting graphic violence and sex and marketed it to the same audience as the Lion King I would be the first one to cry foul. So ends my rant.

Sokoto16
Sokoto16

looks like Australia are starting to get soft on their approach to graphic games.....possible R18 license in 2013? lol Glad to hear some of my Aussie friends can enjoy the full content of this game :). As for our good friends in politics, I agree with you there plm3d_basic, matter of fact they were MORE violent in the past and than they are now-a-days.

dwd_27
dwd_27

this is not first this has happend a remember it happend to manhunt 2 in some countries you could not buy it so u had to buy it from ebay or somewhere.

azntok
azntok

@HighRisk12345 really? they made a game about raping people? thats a little disturbing. I do agree with what you have said though. In a way they do need boundaries.. but more so, i think they just need regulations on what type of games are actually allowed to be developed.. raping? seriously? thats.. just beyond.. just wow

plm3d_basic
plm3d_basic

When will politicians stop blaming games, movies, or television for people committing violence. People have been committing violence long before there were electronics. A disturbed individual will enact violent acts regardless. Here's a thought. Blame the people who commit these acts. It's the same stupid mentality that wants to understand terrorists or murderers and why they kill.

Lach0121
Lach0121

great news for Australian gamers.

Bedizen
Bedizen

Good news - but more must be done

Skargamer
Skargamer

" hunter survivor prey which will you be? " that pretty much sold it to me...

demi_veritaz
demi_veritaz

So they act all mean and b!tchy until someone tells them to shove it?

emkplayboy6
emkplayboy6

Wow why make sucha big deal about a video game when there's way more worst problems out there in the world! Aussie's FAIL!

Jak_Napier
Jak_Napier

i agree with the censorship in one respect, but really it always seems that Australia is the one with all the issues regarding censoring video games.

chump91
chump91

CENSORSHIP IS CANCER.

wonkamobile
wonkamobile

That retarded australian lawyer got wtfpwned

scatterbrain007
scatterbrain007

"sanitized or cut-down version for territories where adults are not considered by their governments to be able to make their own entertainment choices." Greatest quote ever. It's good to see the industry still has SOME people out there with a pair of big brass ones. I think this is great news, however I agree with "NearlyPrescient", I'd like to know why they decided to change their decision??

KorruptRaiden
KorruptRaiden

Pre-ordered Hunter edition today :) I'm a happy Aussie now.

Evil_Robo
Evil_Robo

Not really, because they'll just by something else. Its not like the majority of games are banned in OZ or anything.

shakensparco
shakensparco

I wonder if the Australians have ever considered the economic implications of what they are doing. More games banned means fewer game sales which also impact sales of hardware. It's not doing any favors for their economy.

BobtheVila
BobtheVila

For a first person perspective? This never made me think differently about what i'm doing in a game... So I think it's as dumb as superstition is.

jeffv541
jeffv541

Did anyone else here about that alien abduction in Australia? They got two kangaroos before the police shot it down, neither one survived the crash...

Vlad_an_impaler
Vlad_an_impaler

Great news for Aussie friends! Hopefully this will impact future games although, they need a 18+ rating implemented.

vaultboy_ninja
vaultboy_ninja

How dare you say that. I dont care that you dont care. This is great. you must be american or something.

x-2tha-z
x-2tha-z

I can honestly say, I do not care.

Sirbobislost
Sirbobislost

yay gratz aussies now lets hope it doesnt suck and all this time and effort was a waste

zimaking
zimaking

Cant wait for this game to come out..BRING IT ON!!

2k_rammerizkool
2k_rammerizkool

"sanitized or cut-down version for territories where adults are not considered by their governments to be able to make their own entertainment choices." Wow, Rebellion's got balls! If only Valve had the same philosophy with Left 4 Dead 2...

Shinkada
Shinkada

Holy unexpected turnabout! I know some people are gunna be pleased about this!