AGDC '07: Dave Perry's back pages

On the final day of the conference, the veteran designer talks about his humble beginnings, getting burned believing his own hype, and why he doesn't like the Wii.

AUSTIN, Texas--Veteran developer Dave Perry's name is most closely associated with games that came out years ago: MDK, Enter the Matrix, Disney's Aladdin, Earthworm Jim. After leaving Atari in February of 2006, Perry hooked up with the resurrected Acclaim, an upstart developer of free-to-play massively multiplayer online games, and has since been working with a number of Korean MMO development teams on a half-dozen projects.

"Dave, Jamil. Jamil, Dave."

Perry took time out from his development schedule to appear on the last day of the Austin Game Developers Conference and field questions from GDC director Jamil Moledina for a crowd of attendees. The discussion traced Perry's history in games, from teaching himself how to code in Basic from magazines as a boy in Northern Ireland to his current Top Secret community-designed MMO project at Acclaim. The talk was also peppered with interesting trivia, humorous anecdotes, and opinionated (and sometimes self-effacing) jabs along the way.

To show how "ghetto" the early development process was, he described an early attempt at photorealistic graphics. To get digitized images, his team took pictures of themselves performing the various animations, and then cut the backgrounds out. Not thinking to do it in front of black backdrop, the team found itself cutting an old backyard shed out of every picture in order to get the process to work.

To demonstrate the process (and more likely to razz a friend), Perry showed a picture of himself hitting his coworker Neil Young in the face with a toilet plunger. Young is now vice president and general manager of Electronic Arts Los Angeles.

"I left school to do this, and the first job offer I had was 3,500 pounds per year, which is like $5,000, to move to London," Perry said. "And I didn't do any math or ask what it costs to live in London."

Perry called it a sticker shock when he arrived in England's capital, noting that it cost almost his entire salary just to take the train to work each day.

"But that was just the way it was," Perry said. "If you wanted in, you had to do that. But very quickly the salaries started to rise. You do a game, it sells, and they say, 'Please don't leave, here's some money.'"

One of the tricks to getting by for Perry was cranking out a lot of games. He wrote his own engine, which allowed him to churn out titles like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles PC game in a week. At one time, he had 11 games on the charts at once.

That sort of prodigious output was attractive to prospective publishing partners. Virgin Games lured Perry over to the US when they needed a licensed game made for McDonald's, and they needed it on short notice. The game was called Global Gladiators, and eschewed McDonald's trademark stable of characters in favor of Mick and Mack, a couple of generic kids that fit right in with the traditional platformer-shooter gameplay.

"This was a bit of a disaster," Perry said. "We made the game, which we thought was fun, and McDonald's came to have a look at it. They said, 'What is this? What are you thinking? Where are the restaurants in the game? How do I buy burgers and fries?'"

Perry said nobody wanted to buy burgers and fries in a game, and even avoided using Ronald McDonald in the game originally. When the company insisted, he said the team "threw Ronald McDonald waving a flag at some point."

"The game won Game of the Year," Perry said, "so we were all high-fiving and saying, 'To hell with McDonald's!' But it turned out that they were pretty pissed. They went and hired another team and they made a new McDonald's game with restaurants that you can buy burgers and fries in. It was called McDonaldland, and it didn't get Game of the Year."

That experience didn't sour Perry on advertising-based games, as he went on to make Cool Spot based on the 7-Up mascot. Back then, advertising in games was shameless, Perry said, saying the whole game was built on pushing the brand, and noting that Cool Spot even began with the company mascot riding in on a 7-Up bottle.

Despite dealing with other people's intellectual properties, Perry was able to call the shots on a lot of his games from pretty early on.

"It's almost like you're bit of a liability, to be honest," Perry said. "You start to get trusted; you do a few things that sell, and people go, 'whatever you want to do.' It's like if Will Wright said he wanted to do a game about snakes next, everyone would say it sounds like a great idea because the guy's hitting home runs one after another. So snakes are obviously the future."

"I got to the point where I could abuse that a little bit and whatever I would want to do would get funded. I did some pretty wacky stuff. I did a little helicopter game [R/C Stunt Copter for the PlayStation] and things like that which really shouldn't get done. But at the time, no one was saying no."

Perry has dealt with other people's brands on and off throughout his career. Most recently, and perhaps most famously, he and Shiny handled the game tie-ins to The Matrix trilogy. But his two games based on the sci-fi films almost didn't happen. Before the first movie debuted, Perry said he was approached about making a Matrix game by the film's producer Joel Silver (Action Jackson, Road House). Perry said he was called into Silver's office, where he was shown an early demo of the film's signature "bullet-time" technology, starring nothing more than a burning barrel of fire. Unimpressed by the burning barrel and completely engrossed in the development of Shiny's PC game Sacrifice, Perry passed on the project.

"It all made sense, but at the end of the day, after seeing The Matrix, it didn't make sense," Perry said. "We should have put the pause on Sacrifice."

When the filmmakers geared up for a sequel to The Matrix, they again turned to Perry to see if he was interested in handling the game adaptation. Given a second chance, he readily agreed, and work began on Enter the Matrix for the PC, PlayStation 2, GameCube, and Xbox.

The ambitious project was a side story to the films, but one created with the filmmakers' blessing and participation. As part of the production, they shot an hour of new footage for cutscenes that would go into the game, including one scene in which two female characters kiss.

We were working really hard to try and get a [T for Teen] rating, and the [Entertainment Software Rating Board] was like, 'What are you thinking? Lesbian kissing in your game and you want a teen rating? Forget about it.' We actually said as our response that it wasn't two women kissing; it's two computer programs kissing. And wouldn't you believe it, the ESRB accepted that. We did it kind of as a joke, and they took it."

Moving to the current day, Moledina and Perry discussed his latest project, Top Secret. An MMO racing game, Top Secret is being developed by a community of gamers all vying for a "grand prize" that will see publisher Acclaim give one creative, aspiring designer an all-new MMO to direct.

Like all of Acclaim's games, Top Secret will be free to play and supported by in-game ads and microtransactions. That's a business model imported from Korea (like many of Acclaim's games) that Perry thinks has the potential to be a disrupting force in the gaming world. He said it's inevitable that a designer on par with Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear Solid series) or Shigeru Miyamoto (Super Mario, Zelda) will emerge from Korea or China, where these types of games are prevalent. And once that designer does emerge, Perry said nothing would be the same.

Moledina seized on the issue to ask Perry for his thoughts on Nintendo's Wii and its motion-sensing controller.

"That's truly disruptive," Perry said of the Wii. "I got sort of killed in the press recently because I said people are going to put their Wii-motes down when they start to play all the new stuff on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. It wasn't dismissive at all. Nintendo has disrupted our industry; they've done a fantastic job of that. My point is the games I personally like to play--Assassin's Creed and Killzone 2--I have a list full of them and none of them are on the Wii."

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Kane04
Kane04

"people are going to put their Wii-motes down when they start to play all the new stuff on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360" think Force Unleash, wiimote control the light saber or Euphoria and all the new particle system (wood, glass...) really, its gonna die quick, wii i mean, it will fall as fast as the rise...

Burnout_Avenged
Burnout_Avenged

I saw an article earlier which mentioned a game developer calling the Wii a piece of ****

Taoninja
Taoninja

I am not too fond of the wii either… it kills the effect of just laying back and relaxing when you want to play a game alone. Any time I have played the wii the controls were pretty much shot when it came to certain games. Wii sports are okay… but it gets old. Might as well go out and play a real game of baseball or something. The point of playing a game is playing the game, not swinging a mediocre stick around. Lame…

pixelsword
pixelsword

One thing I don't get about the Wii: Why would I play Wii sports when I can play SPORTS? and a videogame version of ping-pong is just too stupid to comment on. If you're a normal person and are too weak and uncoordinated to play ping-pong in real life, you deserve jocks punching you in the face. You don't have to be great at something to have fun with it. Man, that's the only drawback to videogames: replacing pratice and disipline with a man who can already play sports. *sigh*.

festa500
festa500

Funny how this whole article is reduced to one paragraph based on his opinions on the Wii... And I don't think he meant disruptive derogatorily, it IS disruptive, when all other avenues of gaming are pushing better graphics, more polys, etc, etc, Nintendo is redefining its approach to gaming. And its a valid approach, and i like the concept of the wii, just don't think it's been fully appreciated yet, mostly because it is in its infant state. I'd like to see the state of the gaming playing field in a few years, maybe the next set of consoles after these (hopefully a while off yet!), and see where everyone's at then, whether this motion sensing thing really sets a benchmark or not.

ThreEve69
ThreEve69

good, someone who knows what the wii is good for

wars45
wars45

nice one i dont like wil i just dont get it

kratos_karmakar
kratos_karmakar

bobby68923421-wat ever millions of girls,diaper changing babies and grandparents luv the wii.

Symphonycometh
Symphonycometh

Bobby696 is smart........ Millions of people don't like the Wii however.:P

Bobby969
Bobby969

Don't slate the guy for his personal opinion - you all say his opinion's rubbish but thats only a comparison of his opinion to yours. Soooo hypocritical. He's made some fantastic games and if he don'k like wii so what? Millions of other people do :)

bladeleaper25
bladeleaper25

I think Perry is a little full of himself,I mean sure everyone has a right to express their own opinion but to say that Nintendo has disrupted the industry is completely ridiculous,just think about it Nintendo are game veterans,and game revolutionaries,first you had Game Boy maybe not the first handheld console but even so,and while everyone else was stuck on game pads they added a analogue stick on the 64 controller which is a non-questionable part on any controller these days,then when Sony decided to join the handheld game Nintendo had taken the next step again by putting a touch screen on their new handheld, and now once again while Sony and Microsoft are still learning the console game,Nintendo have again moved on with motion sensitive controls.Nintendo are moving gaming further than just better graphics,they moving it forward not disrupting it.

GonzoGuy
GonzoGuy

That's actually pretty funny because with all the 360 & PS3 games that I'm interested in, I'm just going to get for the PC. The list of games that I want to play but won't be on the PC are all on the Wii.

razu_gamer
razu_gamer

@bghattas: Sorry but I never ever play Wii sports, maybe if I am intense bored. I personally buy around 4 games per year per console, and I am certainly not a casual gamer. I am a hardcore gamer. I always talk about them, think about them etc. Sorry but you definition of a casual/hardcore gamer is wrong. And no way in hell are the majority of Wii owners casual gamers.

zaokamura
zaokamura

wii is way to casual for me. It gets far to much praise.

Symphonycometh
Symphonycometh

Since when did sales represent the overall goodness of a game?:roll:

GARRARDS
GARRARDS

I thought that read 'Dave Perry's back passage'!

acarrillo
acarrillo

WII is created to play sport but i think others game like Assassin´s Creed nop but i need to proof, i dont change the control of PS2 AND PS3 - or - XBox whel Nintendo receive a lot titles of the other consoles but whe he give other of your repertory like a Halo or Metroid? neveeeeeeeeeeer! thats the problem. The problem is not the program language to other console is the money or more work is sad this.

uberjannie
uberjannie

He still have the right for a personal say in the matter. You cant flame him because he doesnt like the wii. I do however see his point, there isnt many good titles coming to the wii. The good / bad ration of games on the wii is kinda in a slope.

Infrared187
Infrared187

bghattas - Both Red Steel and Rayman Raving Rabbids have sold over a million copies each worldwide on Wii - better than any third-party PS3 games.

DrCLos
DrCLos

So because Perry doesn't want to play anything on the Wii, that means nobody else will want to either? It's always faulty to think that your opinions mirror the majority. Personally, I want to play games on ALL the consoles. I want Mario Galaxy on the Wii and Halo 3 on the 360. And when God of War III comes out, I'll finally have one I want to play for the PS3 too... whenever that would be.

jacob-goodlich
jacob-goodlich

assassins creed and killzone 2.......this guy thinks just like me, and that stuff about the wii also.

Symphonycometh
Symphonycometh

bghattas Well that makes perfect sense! But I bash my own console for faults. I'll do the same dang thing for the WIi.:P

bghattas
bghattas

I love how the Nintendo-ites need to respond to everybody. I've always felt that someone becomes a fanboy due to buyer's remorse. There should be no remorse for any single-console owner. All three have their strengths and weaknesses. No console is perfect, though. The need to badmouth the competition is lame. I did it in the past, I made an error and no longer will trash any consoles. However, one comment towards the young lad Razu-Gamer. I think the majority of the Wii's owners, the casual gamers who are happy with Wii Sports and maybe 2-3 games a year, don't really care for Ubi Soft's software. The only people who care for Ubi Soft's games are the die-hard Nintendo-ites that owned the GameCube. The people IMO who now make up the Wii majority are the casuals who will never visit GameSpot or IGN, buy EGM or discuss the Wii on a message board to learn about Ubi Soft's great games. So until you and your cadre of Nintendo-ites can make these casuals play these upcoming games from 3rd parties before they toss the Wii into the closet, some people are going to continue to see the Wii as nothing but a toy.

razu_gamer
razu_gamer

@Symphoney: for christmas try Galaxy. A non violent game for a non violent time. Thats what I will get. Can't wait. @Agermemnon: yes you have a point. But I bet you they wished it could. Also remember COD3 was exactly the same on Wii but no MP and inferior graphics. And the graphics score was 7/10 by GS. @globalheat239: accept it fellow gamer. Devs thought Wii would make no money, so no support. But they were wrong. @Vanr : Actually, Ubisoft actually apologised to gamers for lacking quality on their Wii games. It came on GS news. EA, also recently apologised for not supporting Wii more. So sorry, in your messed up dreams, you are denying the truth.

ClonerStive
ClonerStive

Bloody fan boys... I like the Wii. Hell, I camped out on launch day with my gf (same day as our 6 month anneversery) and bought Wiis for both of us. But seriously guys, not everyone has to like the same console. It's pointless to argue over this petty crap. It's not like you have major stocks invested. I'm not a fanboy of anything, but games. Yes, I'm a game fan-boy.

hitman1988
hitman1988

HELLO Go Wii, "waves little wii flag"

dQuarters
dQuarters

LMAO @ two computer programs kissing! ... suckers.

Vanr
Vanr

razu_gamer "I bet Ubisoft are crying that AC was not somehow put onto Wii (I mean they done it for DS?!?!), activisons are crying COD4 is not somehow on it, basically every dev is crying now that they doubted Wii." Only in you messed up dreams they are!

xunhallowed
xunhallowed

Wii Sports - Number one wii game, and most enjoyed of all on wii. FREE GAMES SELL CONSOLES! Wii Sports is destroying whatever "happening" games Nintendo has. Happening is what you 8 year olds think is cool, right? I mean, aside from Super Pokemon (insert new color here). I guarantee if Wii Sports cost money, it would sell way more than anything else on Wii. So shut up about fanboys and good games for wii, because unless Wii Sports: Mario Preschool Edition comes out, the only time anyone will ever use a remote again is when they're watching tv and seeing the gargantuan ad campaigns for real games. If you do like the Wii, you shouldn't be online. Especially without your Super Mario Friend Code! Jump twice, then count to 5! Math skills too! Hooray! 360 and PS3 aren't even competing with the Wii, so don't give me freaking numbers. If I didn't have a free will, I'd hop on the free game train, just like easy to brainwash 8 year olds. And here comes the flame. I'm just telling the truth.

globalheat239
globalheat239

hmm i really dont agree with razu_gamer i really think all the game design companys like ubisoft and microsoft activision ect. didnt even think of wii why waste the time it would be a waste of money just to find out the wii cant handle it

ClaudeLv250
ClaudeLv250

"If Microsoft did this we would have Masterchief Golf, Masterchief Tennis, Dr. Masterchief, Masterchief at the Olympic Games, and Masterchief party. Who would want to see that? Not me" You're smoking, right? We've got Halo 1-3, Halo Wars, Halo short movies, Halo Xbox 360's, Halo the Movie, Halo Soda, Halo fans, Halo Halo Halo. Seriously, it's a damn game. What next, Halo Condoms? "Finish the ****!"

Agermemnon
Agermemnon

Games that get released on the ps3/360 and pc are alike you could say , they target a set audience as it were , now would those games appeal to wii owners in general ? or would the devcos be waisting their time .

Agermemnon
Agermemnon

@razu_gamer do you think the wii could handle say Bioshock ? cod4 ? ( playing beta on xlive great game ) Assassins creed ? or graw 1 or 2 ?

Symphonycometh
Symphonycometh

razu_gamer: Most intelligent response to ever grace this page. Now I can get an intelligent discussion out of this. Out of those games, which one of those games would make me want to buy a Wii this Christmas? I like my games different from the rest of the crowd...like Shadows of the Colossus. We'll start there. @Pencil person: Nevermind, found someone. :P

razu_gamer
razu_gamer

Well its obvious why Wii (according to their invented definition of hardcore) has no "hardcore" games. GCN done bad. Came third infact. Too kiddy. When Wii was announced, you really think Devs gave a crap. They were concentrating on PS3 and 360. Hence, gamers get bioshock, Assassins Creed, Stranglehold, Lost Planet, Ghost Recon, COD4, DMC4, RE5, etc. So Wii had to prove itself. So according top the definition given by some "hardcore" gamers, the only hardcore games on Wii is Twilight Princess, RE4 and Red Steel. Well those fools got owned b/c those three games were enough to sell Wii's to on par with 360. According to the real definition of hardcore games, there are loads on Wii right now, Zelda TP, RS, Sonic, COD3, Double Agent, RE4, SSX, MP3, Mortal Kombat, Medal of Honour, Godfather, Scarface, Paper Mario, Need for Speed, Exite Truck. And to come, Manhunt 2, Mario Galaxy, Medal of honor heroes 2, No More heroes, Umbrella Chronicles, Disaster day of Crisis, Endless Oceon, Sadness, Project Hammer, F zero Wii, Smash Bros, Kojima's Project S, EA sports titles, Brothers in arms Double Time. I bet Ubisoft are crying that AC was not somehow put onto Wii (I mean they done it for DS?!?!), activisons are crying COD4 is not somehow on it, basically every dev is crying now that they doubted Wii.

Symphonycometh
Symphonycometh

Oh and Mr/Mrs/Ms. Pencil: Halo...I'm sure isn't a mini-game...it's a full fledge game...and maybe Halo 4 will have a Super Master Chief Striker/Tennis mini-game to unlock after you beat the REAL game. :oh

Symphonycometh
Symphonycometh

pencilpusher69: Found one! Finally. Now, if you could just...um...show me these awesome original games. (I looked, but it's rather hard seeing what's a mini-game...game...and what's a real game...and then from that, what's a GOOD real game.) So I'm going to ask you nicely if you could name me some Shadows of the Colossus quality games. I won't blame you if you don't post back.:)

pencilpusher69
pencilpusher69

Symphonycometh: We don't stop, because you're full of **** There are plenty of games of all types coming ot the Wii, and it's still stomping your system's ass. Get over it. santiagochile " "I'm just so annoyed by all the mini games and overkill of Ninitendo's franchises. I mean how many Mario games do we need? -Mario Golf -Mario Tennis -Mario Party 1-8 -Super Paper Mario -Mario Kart -Mario Strikers Charged -Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games -Super Mario Galaxy -Mario baseball -Dr. Mario -Mario & Luigi -Mario Superstar Basketball -Mario vs. Donkey Kong And many more... Alot of those games mentioned above have anywhere from 3-8 sequals/different versions. If Microsoft did this we would have Masterchief Golf, Masterchief Tennis, Dr. Masterchief, Masterchief at the Olympic Games, and Masterchief party. Who would want to see that? Not me. ... ... ... ... ... ... .... ... ... ... ... ... ... The reason why that won't happen is that no one wants to play Master Chief Party with his wife or kids. Face it, characters like Yoshi, Mario, Toad, etc. are more loveable than some steroid soldier featured in Halo, Halo 1.2, and Halo 1.3. My wife and I love the Mario characters and the Mario universe. I wouldn't waste y time on Halo." Dude, wake up, Microsoft IS doing it. Halo 1-3, Halo the RTS, and more to come. Get a clue, Microsoft hasn't been in the console gaming business for a fraction of the time that NIntendo has, and they're building up their cache of characters and game franchises that they TOO will be milking for a long time to come. Or maybe you think they should stop making games that sell, and say screw Halo 3?

jj_696
jj_696

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Symphonycometh
Symphonycometh

Will the jest of you mini-game lovers shut the fluff up? Stop posting that we gamers only like graphics and violence. I can't slap you all individually, so I'll just sum up where my response is coming from: "You hate the Wii because its not all about graphics and hate something new." Does this sum up the jest of it? -Idiots. I like how every last one of you avoided the questions dealing with repetitive mini-games. I also like how every last one of you talk about Halo, Killzone, what not like it's the plague and seem to think majority of 360/PS3 games are all about the violence and the graphics. Isn't that right Echochrome, Blue Dragon (Note that I don't like the looks of that game.), Eternal Sonata, Folklore, ect. I mean they all just wreak of graphic monsters that hate gameplay. :roll: Just as most of you say though, because the Wii is attempting something different, they're bringing in their Shadows of the Colossus every dang month apparently...no wait...that was Cooking Mama... I invite this game again: Mini-game lineup vs. GAME lineup. How does the Wii stack up and figure out why some of us scoff at the Wii. I will take this back when I see some crazy sweet games for the Wii.... (Means more than 4, kids) And please, I can play Tennis/Soccer/Football outside. I don't need a Wii to be active. :o

peterles
peterles

yea...this dude has been in the industry for for what, like a decade? and he's yet to make a decent game. its looks to me like he's just franchise leech developer. these guys are a dime a dozen, and just make crap games who only uninformed gamers and gift giving grandparents buy his games. but in the end he's the only one whos laughing, cause he's getting paid. what a sellout. so yea thanks for the matrix games.........yea they were awesome.............the games on their own merits as "games", im sure they would have sold like crazy without the matrix name.

Agermemnon
Agermemnon

@tranquilo_ very true well put but i find it odd that if these wii sales figs that are being bounded about which are great ( if it's true all corporations bend the truth ) then why is its game sales not matching it's hardware sales ? are plenty buying it for wii sports and thats it ? could the bod a sega be right in saying something like it's a trend/fad and will die out , or something to that effect .

tranquilo_
tranquilo_

The hardcore gamers are not represented by a single console, it is a way of living around games and gaming independently of which games and of which consoles they play. Don't say that people playing the wii are not hardcore gamers, that is just plain stupid. That there is a tendency for non-gamers to try the wii, this is true, but this simply expands the audience, it is not replacing hardcore gamers with non-gamers, it is EXPANDING!!, this is why it is selling so well.

Agermemnon
Agermemnon

Well i do find this sort of response quite funny when the term hardcore gamer comes up nin fanboys immediately jump on the defensive regarding it's lack of visual poke for a machine out in this day and age , but maybe it's nintedo realising that hey our character designs wont benefit from extra power so whats the point ? maybe other devcos would like to play with a little more grunt nintendo and i think this is where nintendo fails by not seeming to thinking what other devcos may want and support for 3rd party devco has always been lets say pour ? thats my own personal view and no i haven't bought a wii , after the n64 and gc i think i will see where the machine is at in 2 to 3 years time .

santiagochile
santiagochile

I'm just so annoyed by all the mini games and overkill of Ninitendo's franchises. I mean how many Mario games do we need? -Mario Golf -Mario Tennis -Mario Party 1-8 -Super Paper Mario -Mario Kart -Mario Strikers Charged -Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games -Super Mario Galaxy -Mario baseball -Dr. Mario -Mario & Luigi -Mario Superstar Basketball -Mario vs. Donkey Kong And many more... Alot of those games mentioned above have anywhere from 3-8 sequals/different versions. If Microsoft did this we would have Masterchief Golf, Masterchief Tennis, Dr. Masterchief, Masterchief at the Olympic Games, and Masterchief party. Who would want to see that? Not me. ... ... ... ... ... ... .... ... ... ... ... ... ... The reason why that won't happen is that no one wants to play Master Chief Party with his wife or kids. Face it, characters like Yoshi, Mario, Toad, etc. are more loveable than some steroid soldier featured in Halo, Halo 1.2, and Halo 1.3. My wife and I love the Mario characters and the Mario universe. I wouldn't waste y time on Halo.

santiagochile
santiagochile

The Wii has plenty of games, so just give it up. I've been renting games for the Wii nonstop since I bought it, and I haven't run out. Face the facts, Nintendo will win this generation. All Sony and Microsoft can do is fight for the crumbs in second place. There is no way they can beat the Wii with only the PS3 and the 360 this generation. This "console war" was over the minute Nintendo showed off the controller. Maybe the PS4, (if there is one can beat the Wii Ni. (Ni is Japanese for 2) . Personally I don't think there will be an XBOX 360-2.

SporkFireXPS
SporkFireXPS

I'm just so annoyed by all the mini games and overkill of Ninitendo's franchises. I mean how many Mario games do we need? -Mario Golf -Mario Tennis -Mario Party 1-8 -Super Paper Mario -Mario Kart -Mario Strikers Charged -Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games -Super Mario Galaxy -Mario baseball -Dr. Mario -Mario & Luigi -Mario Superstar Basketball -Mario vs. Donkey Kong And many more... Alot of those games mentioned above have anywhere from 3-8 sequals/different versions. If Microsoft did this we would have Masterchief Golf, Masterchief Tennis, Dr. Masterchief, Masterchief at the Olympic Games, and Masterchief party. Who would want to see that? Not me.

devilmaycry2020
devilmaycry2020

before the Wii can succeed it will need to be available first and i don't mean the ones selling it for 100$ over the MSRP factor i really did want one at first but in the time waiting for it to be available i bought an XBOX360 and a PS3 in the end i lost interest in it . 240 million? HAH i would love to see that! 360 and PS3 the hottest HD couple !

XAF1
XAF1

I think Perry is missing the important point in all of this as are many gamers. The Nintendo Wii itself isn't the major turning point here---as the console hardware is already dated and underpowered---it is a major Trojan Horse. But, the Wii controller has opened up new ways to play games that the PS3, and Xbox 360 is missing. I'm not a fanboy as I own the Nintendo Wii and 360 as well as buy and play games for and on both. After playing some games with the Wii's controller I find it harder to play the same games on the 360 or PS3. Some games on the PS3 and 360 feel 2 generations old but just prettier. Nintendo has shown what is possible---even Sony tried to chime in with the 6 axis controller. The Wii could be unstoppable if it had a little more graphical/cpu horsepower and the controller was supported by more developers. It doesn't need to be the PS3 or Xbox 360. But graphically it does need to hold it's own as developers are spending so much time on the new consoles and techniques that they don't really have time to fine tune the underperformer in horsepower from last generation. The Wii console to most developers is what they were working with last gen when they were on the Gamecube, PS2, and original Xbox. The console does appear to be majorly underpowered, but the Wii controller deserves most of the credit for the system being fun and acceptable. If it was using any other controller it would just be a Gamecube with the same game play as before. I'm sure a little more can be squeezed out of the console graphically but the question is how many companies have the time to other than Nintendo and its various teams or Sega. The Wii is seen as a hobbist's machine for developers. And for true hardcore gamers it makes it worth it when an excellent game does come out for it. Unlike some of the junk that 3rd parties who are looking to make a quick buck put out for it.