Adam Orth no longer with Microsoft after 'always-on' comments

Orth reported to have left company in the wake of "inappropriate" comments on Twitter.

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Microsoft creative director Adam Orth is reported to have left the company.

Sources speaking to Game Informer say that Orth resigned from the company following the outcry triggered by his comments that customers should learn to deal with a console that requires a permanent connection to the Internet.

Speaking on Twitter last week, Orth made headlines after saying, "Sorry, I don't get the drama around having an 'always on' console. Every device now is 'always on'. That's the world we live in." He then used the hashtag "#dealwithit."

Orth continued, saying that people should "definitely get with the times and get the internet" and that "I want every device to be 'always on.'"

The comments, which arrived off the back of another wave of rumours suggesting Microsoft's next Xbox would require gamers to be connected to the Internet in order to play games, provoked anger in many corners of the gaming community.

Microsoft later took steps to distance itself from Orth's "inappropriate" comments, issuing a statement saying, "We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers."

"We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter."

Orth had joined Microsoft in 2012 as a creative director on a currently unannounced project. He had previously worked on God of War 3 and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II.

Discussion

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lilflipp
lilflipp

I was blamed for cheating once and lost a GF over some acquaintances pictures of what looked to be my doppelganger. Part of me was pissed and the other was amazed.


But this dude just destroyed his career.... on Twitter doe. The power of the internet. You just can't win. You gotta give us what we want. Look at Diablo3, they refused to listen, game was a wasteland now they bringing all these patches to make the game what people demanded it to be. We're spoiled whores.

lilflipp
lilflipp

Ok so you think it should always be on. Fine put an option where you can simply always leave it on, and put the option where I can fucking turn it off. I BELIEVE AMERICA IS ABOUT FREE SPEECH AND AS AN AMERICAN(I'm canadian), I BELIEVE THAT IT"S MY GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO CHOOSE TO EITHER TURN IT ON OR OFF, BECAUSE THAT"S WHAT 'MURICA STANDS FOR. IF YOU'RE AGAINST THIS, THAN YOU'RE AGAINST FREE CHOICES AND AMURICA. WE GON GET YOU ADAM ORTH!

blackothh
blackothh

so they fired orth AND kept always online DRM! BRILLIANT!

toophat82
toophat82

Btw this is for Adam Orth and people who feel like him. What you don't understand is the amount of control your giving to these companies and how it will effect how we play games in the future. Imagine having to wait for issues like Internet, electricity, or Xbox live service being down or many other issues that could effect how much you can actually play the games you pay for. Also they would be able to have control over what you can and can't play or do. Now tell me do you really wanna give that much control to someone else over something that you payed a lot of money for and is suppose to be for having fun and killing time. Basically it's all more complicated then just having an Internet connection. Plus remember that once they no longer support that console chances are the system becomes obsolete and you can no longer play the games you paid for if their service is no longer up. People still play old consoles but once this becomes a trend you might not be able to do so once the console isn't supported no more in the future when they move on to the next console.

toophat82
toophat82

I heard Microsoft wants to do this to be able to stop used game sales? Once again I don't see why used games are an issue. In America and most of the world when you buy something It then becomes yours and you have the right to sell it to whoever so what makes these gaming companies feel like they should get a cut from used game sales wasn't the original money they made enough! I think they just are mad at retailers like GameStop who are profiting from used games which they should be because once again retailers like GameStop have to purchase it from us in order to re sell it so it all legal. So if they have an issue the easy solution would be for them to do the same as retailers and buy back used games for an amount and resell the games. All you have to do is put in the work like retailers do

Deathtorome914
Deathtorome914

I really just wish they would announce what they are doing and put a rest to all of the negative feelings directed at 720. It can only hurt there pubic relations 

Eraldus
Eraldus

Gotta love how this dumbass destroyed his career by himself...

This is hillarious lmao!

ewjiml
ewjiml

Idiot.  I am sure this clown is telling his family to #dealwithit now that he has to collect unemployment. 

gilalizard
gilalizard

This is likely behind the scenes strategy and reasoning for MS.


This clown was just stupid enough to state it out in the open.

SauhlGood
SauhlGood

hypocrits, i bet they are considering this, and Orth was just towing the company line, the fact that he verbalized it to the public as a MS employee is what got him fired, lol ....not that

"his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products"

-Microsoft

utter bs, they perfectly reflect MS's views on this, as theyre continuing to test the waters with the idea of always-on.

Fallen_Lord
Fallen_Lord

I like being able to take out my NES, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Dreamcast and other consoles and games I have collected over the years and just plug them in and play. What happens when 10 years after its release Microsoft decides to drop all servers for their outdated consoles. It''s kinda hard to start a game when no servers exist for a required connection. 

EggEmperor
EggEmperor

Tough luck, Microsoft! The damage has already been done!

charlieholmes
charlieholmes

Hmmm. Xbox live has been down now for about 6 hours. Curious. And I can't fucking play AC 3 cuz the friggin dlc is tied to having a connection to Uplay in order to allow my save to load! This is why I hate any kind of DRM and always on crap!

Shelledfade1
Shelledfade1

so he has worked on star wars the force unleashed 2, one of the worst games ever made, and then he joins microsoft as creative director for "Something" in 2012, and then gets fired in april 2013. 

That's not gonna look good on his resume, lmao.

JRLennis
JRLennis

The bottom line is that Orth made comments about his company's product that he was not authorized to make.  There are rules against that sort of thing.  But what he said was not so egregious as how he said it.  Had he not come off as arrogant and uncaring toward Microsoft's customers, he probably would have gotten off with a warning or a write-up.  As it stands, Microsoft was completely justified in asking for Orth's resignation.  I don't wish the man ill, but I have to call it like I see it.

TxtBin
TxtBin

In my opinion, you guys need to just live with the reality. It's a next-gen console. How much longer are you gonna be playing offline?? Anyone who's likely to get a next-gen console probably already has a serviceable internet connection, and probably a Wi-Fi one too...

If you can't live with it, then go ahead and get yourselves a PS4.

blackothh
blackothh

hahaha i had to come back again today and read it again for a laugh

xerxes5678
xerxes5678

Yeah, being a jerk to your consumers is always a bad idea. My question is that with twitter, facebook, etc being so pervasive, why do people not get this by now?

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

Hahaha I only just saw what he said after the #dealwithit part. LMAO. I do believe he was joking around overall on there, he should do it in private next time though so he doesn't get his soul torn into a billion pieces by gamers.

alastor529
alastor529

Wait wait hold up, here I was thinking he got fired...So he LEFT the company because of some internet memes? But I thought he LOVED the internet?
lmao

Basically he couldn't
#dealwithit

Pathetic trash, i feel no sympathy for him at all.
I wouldn't be surprised if the next headline reads,
"Adam orth commits suicide"
*sigh Just another bad case of a guy who  can talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.

vadagar1
vadagar1

I kinda feel sorry for him :(


we are so mean :S

fantasyfacade
fantasyfacade

At least he learned never to annoy a gamer. Its funny how most gamers are laid back, but the moment you threaten our ability to play video games we mass in swarms.

Sardinar
Sardinar

I guess he is too creative for the creative director position.

LandauTST
LandauTST

I honestly didn't expect him to leave the company after that, but oh well. I guess he has to learn one way or another. Hopefully he learned SOMETHING. I have a bad feeling he's just the type to sit there and blame everyone else for his own problems.

gtandiono
gtandiono

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

JOLIVERW
JOLIVERW

@Fallen_Lord That is one of the best points I have heard.

Especially if the Xbox after that doesn't support the 720's games...

My PS3 doesn't support my PS2 games, and the PS4 won't support my PS3 games. So if new consoles stop working, all the new, great games we will get will be lost.

saleama
saleama

@TxtBin If hackers break MS servers, and believe me, they will, then your Xbox 720 will be worthless for the duration.  I have a PS3 and when they got hacked the only thing it did to me was stop me from using the online services.  I was still able to play my games.  Should the rumors prove to be true and that happens, no play on xbox at all.  That would suck.  And it is also about choice and how I will not allow anybody to limit mine for me.

Eraldus
Eraldus

@TxtBin Blind M$ fantard on the fray! Bring in the tranquilizer guns everybody!!!

Hilux-
Hilux-

@TxtBin Its not like that.

the Xbox live service has been out for a few hours for the majority of people, this means any "always-online" game wasn't playable for that time.


Imagain this happening whenever there is a big load on their network or whenever they get hacked, and believe me if hacking leads to Xbox live being shut down for a day, the hackers will have a field day messing with them, just look at the latest FC3 Blood Dragon thing. It was stolen and they had to turn their network off.


Always online thing sucks asx. 

Fantasy_Dragon
Fantasy_Dragon

@TxtBin Because there are NEVER power outages, or ISPs working and maintaining their service, or anything like that. Internet is always 100% on, right? So we don't have to worry about on always-on connection even if we're playing an OFFLINE game? Please.

Patchezs
Patchezs

@TxtBin Being online makes sense when the game is online. But why should I need to be connected if I'm playing a game that doesn't need to be? Honestly, tell me why, because I still don't get how people can see this as anything other than an annoyance. 

Trust me, if the Xbox 720 needs to be connected just to turn it on and the PS4 doesn't, I will happily buy the latter. Sorry, Microsoft. #dealwithit

blackothh
blackothh

@TxtBin hey look here is adam orth trying to defend always on DRM again! consoles were supposed to be simple entertainment devices to put in the living room. Always on DRM will cause nothing but headaches for its users. And not everybody has dependable constant internet. I do and i still would not sign on to an always on DRM handcuff.

Eraldus
Eraldus

@vadagar1 Mean? Why should we take easy on a man that pretty pissed on every gamer's face with that arrogant statement of his? Please...

alastor529
alastor529

@vadagar1 I don't...all this is a result of his smugness, arrogance, and hypocritical logic.

Oosaka-chan
Oosaka-chan

@JOLIVERW @Fallen_Lord Well, this is not necessarily true.. Have you ever heard about PS2 classics on PS3? And although I don't like to promote CFWs on the PS3, but if you happen to install one, you can basically convert any PS2 games (using your original disks) to PS2 classics and play them on your PS3.