3D possible for Wii successor - Report

E3 2010: Nintendo president suggests company would consider new tech for next console when 3DTV adoption rate eclipses 30 percent.

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LOS ANGELES--At Nintendo's press briefing, company president Satoru Iwata officially unveiled the company's glasses-free 3D portable gaming device, the 3DS. Today, Iwata hinted at 3D technology being incorporated into the next home console the company releases.

Will Nintendo bring 3D to its next console?

As reported by Andriasang, the Nintendo executive expressed concern to the Japanese newspaper Nihon Keizai Shimbun regarding displaying 3D images on standard televisions. He said if the company is to release a 3D-enabled console, it won't be until 3D-ready televisions exceed a 30 percent adoption rate.

"We're thinking that the timing should be once the 3D television adoption rates crosses the 30 percent mark," the executive said. "We're looking at the adoption trends."

Nintendo tried its hand at 3D gaming 15 years ago with the Virtual Boy, a system that soundly flopped. Speaking of the Virtual Boy, Iwata said that it released the game machine when the technology "was not ready."

Discussion

278 comments
sabas10
sabas10

Actually pretty unfair that Gamespot doesn't give any attention to the PC's 3D gaming, and not really much attention to the (at the moment, way superior) PS3 3D funtion (Lolz...They should have called it PS3D, just like the 3DS). I'm just waiting for a new Wii, wich really is next-gen. Well, in the meantime, im just gonna enjoy myself with PS Move.

sabas10
sabas10

Does somebody know how much a Nvidia 3D graphics card for a computer costs? It just need to be as strong as a ATI Radeon HD 5770. Cause i would like to play some of the games in 3D, does somebody also knows if these cards have a 2D-3D function (wich shows 2D games in 3D)? Ain't gonna buy a new DS for 3D. I think it will be boring fastm and if you already own a DS, you should wait until the comes a new DS. Im actually more fan of the PSP, because it still can do more then a DS. Like the name says, it's really a PS3 portalbe version.

thingta42
thingta42

You know the Wii fails in hardware department when a Nintendo gameboy has better graphics than their main console. Some devs even said if they remove the 3D from the games they can make them look 30% even better! Nuff said. Wii HD now or loose the market Next Gen (Not this Gen) Nintendo in my opinion are going to loose ground next time around with there Console. Well i love the fact Nintendo are going Hardcore with the 3DS lineup, there isn't one launch game im not buying lol. The Wii just doesn't do it for me.

LordNdoki
LordNdoki

3DS already has 55% of the votes for best of E3 hardware right here on gamespot!

Lightsyde
Lightsyde

Well, let's see if this one is into shovelware first...

gyuhibnmjbvgf
gyuhibnmjbvgf

omg this better be a 3D accessory. I'm already sick from paying 190 dollars on a DSi Xl, mostly because the 3DS is coming out. If my Wii doesn't get 3D, I just give up on Nintendo.

sieg6529
sieg6529

As long as the 3D is optional, I'm all for it. But being forced to watch it all the time doesn't sit well with me. By the end of Avatar 3D I had a headache.

grasshopper6
grasshopper6

microsoft is looking how this goes and I hope the successor doesn't require glasses like the 3DS

vapor12
vapor12

Sony and Nintendo doing 3D wheres Microsoft?

DeathB2U
DeathB2U

you guys need to remember... when plasma tvs first came out, even one of the first models... a crappy Philips model that didn't even have an HD tuner in it was going for $10,000. People were then saying plasma tvs would never make it. Now most people that own a tv have a flat panel of some sort. Bluray players were $1000 when they first came out. You can get em as cheap as $50 now. Be patient. Heck the cream of the crop tv from Samsung, the 9000 model is going for about $6k and that was released at about $7k just a few months back. The prices are already plummeting. As it becomes more of the standard, the cost of the tvs and the glasses will come down dramatically. New technology is always expensive. I noticed several of you are saying that 3D is just a fad and its been done before in the 80s and earlier. Well... the technology back then isnt what it is today. 3D actually looks pretty amazing on the new tvs. This isn't just one company trying to push this... it's all over the place. There's so many movies coming out in 3d in the theaters. The trend is and has already been well on its way. 3D is here to stay!

DS-man
DS-man

Awesome!, Defo getting the 3DS, but getting a consol in 3D would take alot of money to buy, I'll need to buy the new 3D consol which would cost around £200, Then a 3D TV which would cost about £1000 then the game around £40 thats £1240 just to play games in 3D, I dont think game designers ever thought about that, That most people cant afford it =/

peaceful_fire
peaceful_fire

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parhar67
parhar67

3d is a gimmick plain and simple. 3d tvs are also a gimmick considering as of now 3d glasses on a sony tv cost you around 300 dollars.

TimeToPartyHard
TimeToPartyHard

3D would be great on consoles (if you say otherwise, then you obviously haven't played in 3D), but the glasses are just too much. The 3DS already has great 3D with no glasses. Until TV sets are made the same way, 3D will never catch on in the home. Once stereoscopic TV sets are made, though, 3D will explode.

odytrice
odytrice

I really think that the 3D feature is welcome. The only area I have issues with is whether the device will be built on this functionality rather than having it as an option. the former will definitely be bad as with the case of the PS3 and HDTVs.

LordNdoki
LordNdoki

@ LilTrigga95 Yeah, people aren't buying it because it's a new idea, costs less, has games they like, backwards compatibility, or downloadable classic games. Nope, people are buying it because they're gullible. You can throw out as many made up statistics as you want, but in the end Nintendo is still winning the console wars, and from personal experience, everyone I know who plays consoles, has a Wii, and none of them are younger than 20. Oh yeah, I have a 360 and PS3 as well, and I still find Nintendo games more fun. Pretty graphics doesn't always equal fun and it doesn't always equal quality either. Long story short, 'fun' is a personal preference, but numbers don't lie, and considering Nintendo's numbers are still #1 and STILL going strong, I think it's obvious which console more people find fun. The gullible parent market would have been tapped years ago.

theKSMM
theKSMM

I feel like 3D is something that's being foisted on consumers instead of something that is being requested by them. The movie and television industries are always looking for the next profit source, and while HDTV is something that has obvious, immediate benefits for many people, I don't know that 3D does. Compound this with the facts that HDTV penetration still isn't "finished" (e.g. many homes still don't have high-def televisions) and that the 3D glasses for a family of four cost as much as many homes' HD sets, and I have a real issue with wondering when (or if) 3D will ever reach the 30% threshold. I suspect it will be long after the successor to the Wii has arrived, if ever.

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

its gonna take a while to get people to get 3d. they have only just got ppl to get hd lol

RageSet
RageSet

It was once echoed by many, the "revolution" is a mere fad and Nintendo would end up like Sega...a software only company. The "revolution" was just that, it took gaming into a brand new direction and introduced the casual person to what we core gamers love so much. Now that we have millions of new gamers, it is up to Microsoft and Sony to offer the middle ground, an introduction to core games. 3D in its current trend is at a much higher adoption rate than previous attempts at installing the technology into the homes of the "mainstream" consumer. Nintendo once bet its company on a "mere fad", will lightning strike again? We are now the "Touch Generation" whether you like it or not, it is here to stay. All I can say is that we are in for another wonderful ride...

Ohaidere
Ohaidere

Everyone who wasn't born before the 90s seems to have forgotten that this 3D fad has happened before, just like people in the 80s forgot that the 3D thing had happened before that. This crappy fad has been around since the black and white days of movies Google "Creature from the Black Lagoon 3D" if you don't believe me. That's right, a movie from 1954 was going to be "3D" (though iirc there was some problem with the cameras they were using not being lined up, but the technical glitch is irrelevant to the fact that a "3D" technology existed back then.)

LilTrigga95
LilTrigga95

@ LordNdoki honestly the only reason why lots of people are buying the wii is cause the parents are buying the video game systems these days and the parents usually have no clue wat theyre doing concerning the reliability and quality of technology. they just got attracted to the fact that its cheaper than a ps3 or 360. performance wise and game selection wise, the 360 and ps3 blows the wii out of the water. and dont try to argue on how super mario galaxy 2 got 10 out of 10 cause most people would say that a game on the ps3 or 360 is more fun, entertaining and is of better quality.

Triton
Triton

All this because of Avatar sucksess? I recall the good ol days when Sega promised us 3D glasses. Believe me folks, all just a fad. The tech is still not there. Everyone is trying to cash in. Got "Hot" milk...

Fajonkel
Fajonkel

I personally dislike motion-sensing and 3D in games. I want to be able to sit back on my couch, with nice HD graphics, not 3D that makes me wear goggles or glasses and hurts my eyes. I think that eventually 3D will be a nice option, but never make it as the main form of all entertainment.

okassar
okassar

Can I pre-order WiiD now?

guitarist1980
guitarist1980

The only thing I dont like about 3d is the long term effect it will have on my eyes. I am a core gamer, play more than I care to admit and if I was gaming in 3d all the time, my vision might deteriorate fast. That said I went to nvidia's Fermi Launch party and got to play a few games with 3d vision and it is cool.

cejay0813
cejay0813

I'm still undecided on this whole 3D tech stuff. I do enjoy going to see a 3D movie here and there but as far as having all my entertainment in 3D, I'd probably pass. I'd rather see an advancement in computer graphics or overall computer performance and efficiency.

LordNdoki
LordNdoki

@sabas10 Just because nintendo's systems are graphically behind the competition doesn't mean they're losing or 'going backwards'. You say Nintendo will have to have Blu-ray to compete. People like you said the same thing about the Wii not having a dvd player, yet it still blew Microsoft and Sony out of the water in sales, and is still far ahead. The same is true for the DS vs the PSP. Nintendo knows only a small portion of gamers actually care about having the biggest graphics *cough* and the majority of people like systems that bring something new, and I dare say, more fun to the table than just pretty pictures. Wii did so well because of motion sensing, DS did so well because of touch screen, and yes, the gamecube failed because it was an attempt at just another video game sysytem with nothing new save for updated graphics. Oh yeah, and 3d gaming has been around for years already. I play all my computer games in 3d actually. WoW, TF2, Portal, Starcraft 2 just to name a few. ;)

dean0null
dean0null

With this new 3D technology, I wouldn't be surprised to see it in an HDTV in very much time.

sabas10
sabas10

@GravityDs That's totally true dude, but 3D isnt really the next step. Dont forget that 3D technology isnt ready yet! There are no 3D tv's or games, it's 3D Ready. That means that it isnt HD. So actually, you can choose for HD or 3D (altough 3D tv's are HD, games aren't), until these two are combined, we can't speak of next-gen 3D. Actually, this tech is more than 100 years old. 3D-cameras were even used in WWII for spotting German defenses. I think this is a good evolution, because 3D was already there, but was never really used...Until now.

sabas10
sabas10

If there's a new Wii in the make (wich is, looking at their R&D budget increase), they will have to add HD gaming, Blue-Ray, and 3D. Otherwise, Nintendo will go backwards. I don't like to say, but Nintendo is being overpowered by Microsoft and even more overpowered by Sony (with technology and such). The DS is really fun, but it was already slightly outdated on release. In doesnt has a multiple-touch screen, up-to-date graphics, or a media player (only for DS and DS Lite, not DSi). Even the Game-Cube was already being beaten by Playstation and powned by newbie Xbox. The Game-Cube was the most money-losing project of Nintendo together with the Virtual Boy. Even the 3DS doesnt have enough new things to beat the others ( well, i think so) So, Nintendo, be sure to be ready for the future next time you release a product. Altough, of course Sony will claim a big prize for the Blue-Ray technology...

jaimecs101
jaimecs101

@lordndoki is completely right 3d has been around for ages. All the super duper technology behind 3d is a tv that is able to display an image for each eye. that's all. Companies simply create a false scarcity to raise prices. Granted the first year of manufacturing would be more expensive cause of the "new" machines but it doesn't justify current prices.

LordNdoki
LordNdoki

Alright I'm only going to say it once more. @atopp399 and to everyone else. 3D is in fact very cheap to produce, and doesn't cause headaches if done right. Sony and Toshiba just want you to think it's 'new' and therefore expensive, but it's not! You can buy a 22" 3d computer monitor for $350, the company has been around for over 10 years, and it doesn't cause headaches. Oh and their glasses aren't shutter so they only cost about $12, and come with 2 free pair (and a pair of clipons) if you don't believe me just do a google search.

atopp399
atopp399

As long as TV manufacturers keep 3D as a paid option on TVs it will never be mainstream. Most people are cheap and look for bargains. Paying for 3D goggles for everyone(typical family of 4 or 5 is like $750 worth of goggles) in addition to the extra cost of the TV will keep it from becoming the standard. When you can get 3D as an included option and all the goggles you want for free then it might have a chance.

vicsrealms
vicsrealms

3D? No thank you. I get a bad enough headache walking into Muppets 3D at MGM Studios in Florida (at least I can laugh it off). That is only a few minute show, I don't want to even think about sitting there for hours gaming.

slicedbread117
slicedbread117

im personally not a fan of 3D...movies or games but if 3D is gonna bring gaming to the top then so be it

japanesegoth
japanesegoth

30% is high...i still don't even have an lcd tv unless you count my computer monitor which i use to watch tv and play xbox.

Payback7
Payback7

@TheTrueMagusX1 - true that mate. Like I said only time will tell. I for one am not overly convinced as of yet :P - But hey, each to their own I say. If you wanna enjoy 3D then go for it, I'll be sitting on the sidelines for a while and see how it all pans out :) I say again - ROLL ON ZELDA FOR THE Wii!! hehe

Warful
Warful

@LordNdoki whether you like it or not, the Wii has it's marketing focused on the actual technology that the Wii posseses compared to the Xbox360 and the PS3, and that is the motion sensoring for now. That includes waving your arms and using the balancing board. In other words, they try to get me as a consumer, to buy the product cause of exactly that. and that kind of thing doesn't interest me. I did NOT say I hated the Nintendo, do not put any words in my mouth, all that ever comes from that is childish behaviour. I am not fond of either the Wii motion sensoring, the PS2 Eyetoy, nor the Kinect for the Xbox360, That does not mean I hate the console. P.S I'm just gonna be a jerk and say it, it's not the PS3 but the PS2 that has the Eyetoy.. The PS3 has got Playstation Move. Oh but you knew that didn't you? for you are the All-Knowing-Wizard-That-Likes-To-Spend-His-Time-Commenting-on-everything!. I'm done with this convo.

Glade_Gnarr
Glade_Gnarr

It would be wise to think about hd before thinking about 3d.

townsenda1
townsenda1

I just hope Nintendo is very careful with this new 3D era. The last thing you want is another virtual boy which was a handheld. If the next home console has the same fate nintendo will be in trouble. But if the Nintendo 3DS does well it may mean that a 3D home console isn't far off. We will see what happens.

Flint247
Flint247

As long as 3D is an option, I'm all set. Honestly, I don't think Nintendo or Sony should push 3D into people's homes so quickly. It's expensive just to get the proper equipment. PLUS, game prices could skyrocket. o.o

Leonagard
Leonagard

Come 3D era!! Im very excited about that!!

UbiquitousAeon
UbiquitousAeon

Personally, it's hard for me to imagine 3D TV's as a standard in the industry, but who knows how it will play out within the next five years or so?

GravityDs
GravityDs

too anyone who complains about 3D....It's already here, it's on it's way, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Movies are in 3d with more coming out everyday, television already has 3d channel(s), and now games across the board are featuring 3d capabilities. Whether or noy you like it it's going to be the norm at some point, just like every other technology that's hit the market. From Standard TV's to HDTV's, from 8tracks to cd's and cd's to mp3's, everything progresses to something else at some point. I would consider 3D the next step from HDTV, or the marriage between the two. One day, probablt not that long from now, 3D is going to be just another everyday part of entertainment media. I for one am extremely excited, and can't wait, before then though, I plan on getting a 3D monitor with nvidia's stereoscopic glasses and playing most of my favorite PC games in 3D. Last thought here. Think about a Call of Duty game that would be in 3D; how awesome would it be to be playing it, and having explosions blasting debris past your face, or watching a bullet fly by, or dust and other kinds of things? You all know that would be bad a$$. And top that off with an awesome surround sound system, it would be like you actually there fighting a battle. Intensity.

ynfive
ynfive

15 years since the virtual boy? I still have burn in my retinas from the one time I demoed it at a best buy.

LordNdoki
LordNdoki

@DR3B They came out with a 3D TV about 2 years ago that didn't require glasses, but those are more of a hassle than they're worth, and don't even ask how much they cost. Basically your 3D choices this day in age are either polarized glasses, shutter glasses, or sitting within a few degrees of the center of your TV (or DS in this case) @Warful oh yeah, I forgot about the small handful of crappy games that use the balance board. And for someone who claims to know so much about it, how come you bashed it for having to wave your arms, yet now all of a sudden you're talking about the balance board? PS3 has it's eyetoy, and 360 has kinect, so I guess you must hate ALL the systems because they all "require" you to stand. lol. Don't judge a system because of it's peripherals, or the crappy games that go with it. Try Metroid Prime 3, LoZ, or any of the other dozens of great games that don't require flailing OR standing before you make a silly comment like that.