3D Mario for Wii U launching by October?

Nintendo reportedly planning to ship new Mario title for struggling system this fall.

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Nintendo will ship the all-new 3D Mario for the Wii U by October 2013, CVG has learned based on discussions with executive-level retail representatives. No further details were divulged.

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata announced the game during a Nintendo Direct presentation in January. The game will be playable at the 2013 Electronic Entertainment Expo, scheduled for June 11-13 in Los Angeles, California.

Developing the new 3D Mario game for the Wii U is Nintendo EAD Tokyo, the team behind Mario Galaxy, Mario Galaxy 2, and Super Mario 3D Land.

The new 3D Mario game is one of many marquee titles Nintendo is looking toward to help spur Wii U sales. Other games coming to the platform in 2013 include Pikmin 3, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD, and The Wonderful 101.

Also in development for the Wii U are new Mario Kart, Zelda, Smash Bros., and Yoshi games.

The Wii U has struggled thus far, selling 400,000 units in 2013 and 3.45 million systems overall since launch. Nintendo's plan to turn things around includes releasing major first-party titles on a regular basis beginning in August with Pikmin 3 and better communicating the novelty of the system.

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Nintendonerd549
Nintendonerd549

lets hope its like 64 or sunshine.  galaxy was ok but not as good as the others

javalino
javalino

3d mario ??? what a revolution !!! it must be too hard for nintendo to make a a 3d mario game in theese days , maybe later !!! 

Make this Mario Game 15$ to compensate the disastrous WiiU sells, maybe this will save wiiU

Drkirk08
Drkirk08

I was going to add to the major list of replies that I ended up causing. Well, though I'm a major Nintendo fan (overall, including Mario, Yoshi, Zelda, Fire Emblem, etc), I do believe Mario has recently been overused. However, like Activision's COD, and Capcom's Street Fighter (and its 1000's iterations) Mario sells. The franchise is super huge, and pretty much taking it away might not do a whole lot of good like people expect for the company. Mario should rest a bit easy, but it'll be a good while before it happens. In the meantime, Nintendo is slowly, but surely gaining new IPs from Japan recently. Definitely excited for them.

And I know this is more about the concern about the company's consoles, but demanding Nintendo to stop Mario is like asking Activision to make no more COD's. Well, if the franchises keeps making money for ya and you stop it....then....

mjswooosh
mjswooosh

You know when I'll care about this? When the WiiU is $99 and I can get the Mario game used for $20 or less, not a minute sooner.

Lostat
Lostat

Thing is, that whilst I recognise Nintendo Wii U is struggling, a lot of the gaming writers are, I believe, painting the picture to be worse than it actually is.  The USA isn't buying too many units of it, but Japan and other countries are faring much much better.  If the writers in the US were those living in Japan, then they would be writing things like "the xbox360 is struggling with poor sales, nintendo & sony doing well instead".  There's a regional bias I think.

JumpyLuweegee
JumpyLuweegee

Nintendo is losing credibility in the video game industry.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

So for those who are saying Nintendo never makes new IPs (even though they do), let me ask you this, when's the last time Sony and Microsoft's 1st or 2nd party studios made a new IP? Before you start spouting out long lists of games, especially for Sony, remember that I said 1st and 2nd party, meaning games like Beyond Two Souls, The Unfinished Swan and Journey do not count, so technically the only new IP coming out from Sony themselves is The Last of Us, now switching to Microsoft, yeah I can't think of any unless you want to list Kinect games. Even 3rd parties, Besthesda's last new IP was Dishonored, but how about before that? Rockstar was LA Noire and before that was Red Dead, Square-Enix has Bravely Default and The World Ends With You, Capcom was Dragon's Dogma and I believe Ghost Trick, so anyways, I hope you catch my drift, majority of major developers hardly put out new IPs, for the most part, they publish new IPs but tend to rely on their established franchises when developing so it's pretty hypocritical to smack talk Nintendo for this when pretty much every other major developer is also guilty of this. 

Sure Nintendo has way more long running franchises than any other developer out there, but know why? Because they've done a damn good job of keeping those franchises relevant and it's quite obvious that any other developer who's seen this same success with their franchises is also doing what they can to keep their franchises alive like Komani with Castlevania and Metal Gear, Capcom with Street Fighter and Resident Evil (but no Megaman T_T), Square-Enix with Final Fantasy and DragonQuest, Sony with Gran Turismo and God of War, Microsoft with Halo and Forza, Bethesda with The Elder Scrolls, and Rockstar with Grand Theft Auto. 

Samuz
Samuz

Mario Sunshine 2, now that's what the system needs. Not Mario Galaxy 3 with the godawful controls from the old Wii. Give us back a normal gaming experience please, with the new cool controller.

Besides, Mario Galaxy 2 was like a bigass DLC. Just the same game with more of the confusing levels. Again, Mario Sunshine 2 is what Wii U needs - now that was a GREAT Mario game!

lizbiz
lizbiz

Here's a novel idea, release a new system WITHOUT ANY flagship games and let's see if it sells!  Why Nintendo would launch a system without a Mario or Zelda or any other franchise is beyond me.  I buy every Nintendo system specifically for their main franchises because they are some of the best games out there.  I will buy a Wii U when a worthy game comes out because Galaxy 2 was one of the best games I've ever played.  Remember the days of Super Nintendo releasing with the astonishing Super Mario World or Nintendo 64 releasing with the Gamespot 'perfect' Mario 64?  What happened Nintendo?

ChiefFreeman
ChiefFreeman

Don't know where they can go after outer space.   It'll be interesting to see.   Hopefully they really max theists ware and give it amazing graphics.

hpg101
hpg101

We need new  characters and a new story that will eventually develop into a strong franchise. Or at least a new Star Fox.

Prats1993
Prats1993

What a waste of fuckin talent, instead of trying to develop another awesome, unique and innovative Super Mario game like Galaxy, they go into rehash mode and essentially make the same game. This is what frustrates me about Nintendo, all of this potential for creativity but they decide to renovate and not innovate.

ewjiml
ewjiml

Let's see what I am going to play within the next 3 months.....oh yeah nothing.  Another drought of games, another 3d Mario, another "NEW" game that they apparently refuse to give a release date for.  Nintendo SHOULD be churning out games to save this damn system.  Instead it's the year of delays for Nintendo. 

Meta-Gnostic
Meta-Gnostic

3d Mario for WiiU is just Mario Galaxy 2 with a swipe of new HD paint. Same core mechanics, same physics, same engine, etc.

slipknotmaggot1
slipknotmaggot1

will they ever make a new franchise? or are they going to milk this one out til they are bankrupt from everyone getting smarter, and not buying the same crap over and over again? then again, seems like there are plenty of dumb fanboys on here who will keep buying crap games. may their repetitive boring ass games live on through the stupidity of their buyers. 

Thanatos2k
Thanatos2k

Super Mario Galaxy 3D!!!!!!!!!

...Yawn.

jer_1
jer_1

oh yay, another boring ass mario game. can hardly wait...

forbiddenmow
forbiddenmow

ok, i invest in all gaming platforms. and i bought a wii u the day it came out. but apart from the launch 2D mario game i haven't touched it since. the bottom line is that i won't touch it again until their exclusives games come out, i.e. pikmin, mario, zelda etc. there's absolutely NO WAY i'm going to play AC3, COD or batman on a wii u. having said that those titles are shit anyway.

so those people slating their strategy are wrong. they need to milk the only thing that separates them from sony/MS/PC: i.e. first party exclusives.

dantezsin
dantezsin

So....the Wii U is struggling.....and their great idea to turn things around is to.......pump out another Mario game?  They truly have run out of ideas.  Diversify your portfolio Ninitendo, and get over this Mario thing of yours.  

hadlee73
hadlee73

I wish Nintendo would actually hire a writer for a Mario game and make a decent story line that doesn't necessarily involve rescuing the princess from the wrong castle :P

Wiiboy4ever
Wiiboy4ever

@Samuz You are a terrible person and should feel bad for even suggesting that.

Nintendonerd549
Nintendonerd549

@Samuz did i just read what i thought i did...are you insane name a dlc thing(had to be said like that) that is that big

rushiosan
rushiosan

@Samuz Mario Sunshine is one of the most boring Mario games I ever played, I'll just pass...

kohle36
kohle36

@lizbiz Apparently, they ignored every other developer last console cycle about the increased time and difficulty involved in the switch to HD development. It's kind of difficult not to imagine them living in a literal bubble when they publicly scratch their heads and claim they never saw it coming

Sam3231
Sam3231

@hpg101 Pretty much have to now right ? Controller is like designed to be some sort of hud/radar.

kohle36
kohle36

@hpg101 Yeah they haven't done anything worthwhile with Starfox in two whole generations now, it's kind of sad to see them retreating into their core franchises again and again. They used to mint new, awesome franchises like it was going out of style.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@slipknotmaggot1

http://kyoto-report.wikidot.com/forum/t-469495

Naturally if you're just going to ignore all the new stuff they put out and consistently focus on Mario and Zelda, then how else can you expect Nintendo to not put out more Mario and Zelda? Same reason why Sony continues to put out Gran Turismo, God of War, and KillZone, same with Microsoft with Forza and Halo, Konami with Metal Gear and Castlevania, Namco-Bandai with Tekken, Tales, Capcom with Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Street Fighter and Square-Enix with Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy. 

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/03/nintendo-wii-u-franchise/

So when these brand new IPs come out, I expect to see you guys to get these games if they're great games right? 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@dantezsin 

Starting with the Gamecube, every system since has had a 3D Mario come out within a year after launch and every single time it created a sales spike. They are working on other projects (which about half they've made public) but why are they going to not do something that's a guaranteed success? It's amazing how little many of you guys know about business and "strategy."

It's like how Sony revealed a new Infamous and KillZone game for the PS4, because both have been proven to sell well. 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@hadlee73 

You're looking at the wrong Mario games, if you want story or great writing, look at the Mario RPG games (the original for the SNES, the Paper Mario series and the Mario & Luigi franchise). 

hochstreck
hochstreck

@hadlee73 No. I don't want your typical crappy Hollywood- or Entertainment-Book-Story in my Mario-Games. Stories are for lamers. :P

Meta-Gnostic
Meta-Gnostic

@abHS4L88 @Meta-Gnostic Isn't it obvious? Look at all of Nintendo's other games. How many times have they used the original Animal Cross engine since the first game? What about all the New Super Mario Bros games, they reused the DS engine for that on 2 different consoles. Wake up.

slipknotmaggot1
slipknotmaggot1

@abHS4L88 @slipknotmaggot1  i have nothing against NEW IP's man. but make it a NEW IP. not a Mario Party, or Mario Cart. there is a difference between sony milking out their products, due to the fact that the games you named off are are not even 10 years old. Mario has been out for over 30 years, Zelda over 25 years. YEAH, they are milking it. and i have seen the new stuff they put out, and the games suck.. the only good games, are the games that are available for every console. any originality on nintendos part is gone. and i bet you the "new IP's" they are working on, are just spin offs of their milked out games. 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@hochstreck

It's probably boring because it doesn't contain senseless violence, explosions and buckets of blood :P

hadlee73
hadlee73

@abHS4L88 @hadlee73 While my comment was primarily in jest, I did mention something *other* than rescuing the princess, which were still the primary plots of both Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario, both of which I have played. In fact, Paper Mario was just a re-hash of the same plot as Super Mario RPG, so I doubt Nintendo broke the writing budget for that one :P

Meta-Gnostic
Meta-Gnostic

@abHS4L88 @Meta-Gnostic Whatever, I really don't care to argue. Won't go anywhere anyways. Maybe when you're as old as me and have played the same Nintendo games so many times, you'll feel the same way.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Meta-Gnostic

Lol fanboyism? At least I know now I'm just dealing with an ignorant troll because if you have to resort to that, that just means that you have no solid facts to back up your statements. 

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Meta-Gnostic

So I can assume that Half Life 3 (or whatever they put out next) will be only on Source because Valve's been using that engine for their past few games?

You're using smaller scale games as an example, and yes, while it's a bit lazy that Nintendo hasn't really upgraded the New series that much, it's never been the case with their 3D games. There's also only been 3 Animal Crossing games and it's not exactly a graphically intensive game.With their next Zelda game, Nintendo confirmed that they're creating a new engine for that game.

So Galaxy had the same core mechanics and physics as Sunshine? Sunshine had the same core mechanics and physics as 64? Yeah, don't tell me to wake up when you're the ignorant one. 

slipknotmaggot1
slipknotmaggot1

@abHS4L88 @slipknotmaggot1 this article is about nintendo, i had no need to bash sony or microsoft. when those companies post something that i feel is milking, i'll say it then too. Gamers need to want different things.. most just want more of the same.. which is why companies milk games. 

slipknotmaggot1
slipknotmaggot1

@gimpy612 @slipknotmaggot1 @abHS4L88 i'm not a fortune teller dude.. i hope they don't. cause i'm sick of the games they are still putting out now. unless they are enhancing the experience. Halo and Uncharted are good examples of milking too.. they are putting different picture on the package, but its still the same exact thing. which is why i don't own any of those games.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@slipknotmaggot1

While they "milk" the Mario character himself, his core games, especially the MarioKart and 3D Mario ones are definitely not milked, same with Zelda. "Milking" implies that you use a brand/product to try to "milk" as much money from consumers as possible, but considering that Nintendo usually only releases 1-2 3D Mario and Zeldas per console and 1 MarioKart per console, I fail to see how that's milking, especially since these releases usually see 3-4 years in between, which means the developers themselves are investing a great deal of resources of these games. Even Michael Pachter, who loves to talk down towards Nintendo, stated how he feels that Nintendo cares about making great games more than turning a profit. 

So when other developers make new IPs, do you honestly believe they're completely original? Tell me you didn't think Dishonored looked like a stealth version of Skyrim, or The Last of Us seems like a horror survival version of Uncharted, not saying it's  a bad thing but if you're going to knock Nintendo for it, make sure you do the same for the other developers too. I'm sure if Sony could make their franchises last for more than 2 decades, they would, case in point with Gran Turismo. The reason why we don't see many developers with franchises that have lasted that long is simply because they haven't managed to keep their franchises relevant for as long. 

gimpy612
gimpy612

@slipknotmaggot1 @abHS4L88 So your saying that your positve that sony wont be milking the crap out of said series 15 years from now if they are still around

hochstreck
hochstreck

@Meta-Gnostic @abHS4L88 @hochstreck  

The beauty about Mario-Games is that they can be quite different and always introduce something fresh to the series. 

They also offer superbly polished gameplay and highly creative and elaborate stage-designs.

Having not played a Mario Game since almost 10 years, I was almost shocked by New Super Mario Bros' and Mario Galaxy's high quality and length.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@Meta-Gnostic  

It's only been 5 years but I'm already tired of the same old sh*t that other developers have been putting over and over again with hardly any changes except a new face and new story. 

voljin1987
voljin1987

@abHS4L88 @hadlee73 well as a guy who has played ninty for a long time.. i dont really want an uncharted like experience when i play my platforming mario... i just want an excuse to jump on goombas and a kidnapped princess peach is just that excuse.. but thats just me.. some might want a more story driven experience.

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@hadlee73

Haha, trying to finish it so I can move onto Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward (LOVED 999 so can't wait to get my hands on this game, but I know I'll ignore Luigi's Mansion if I do so I want to get that out of the way first, haha).

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@hadlee73

But to say the story is the same because of that one section is a bit much don't you think? I actually haven't finished the game yet, haven't even gotten Bowser yet :P I should get around to it (too busy with Lugii's Mansion Dark Moon right now ><)

hadlee73
hadlee73

@abHS4L88 @hadlee73 Well Peach was still kidnapped and rescued in Super Paper Mario, but by someone else for a change. lol

abHS4L88
abHS4L88

@hadlee73

Super Paper Mario followed a different plot (considering that Peach was the 2nd playable character) and yeah, if you want story in general, Nintendo does have plenty of other offerings.