360 price drops in Europe

Microsoft confirms rumours that the Xbox 360 will be getting a price cut; Arcade version now the cheapest console in the region.

Let the price wars commence--Microsoft has thrown down the gauntlet and cut the price of all Xbox 360 SKUs in Europe.

The Arcade pack will have a recommended retail price of £159.99 (down from £199.99), the Premium pack will be £199.99 (down from £259.99), and the Elite pack will be £259.99 (down from £299.99).

The price drops are effective from this Friday, March 14, and notably the new recommended retail price for the Arcade version brings it in cheaper than the Wii--which at £179.99 has been the most budget-conscious next-generation console option since its launch in December 2006.

Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business Europe's VP, Chris Lewis, commented, "History shows that £159.99 is the price point where a console's audience begins to expand, and with these new ERPs in place we're ready to bring more consumers into the Xbox 360 world."

The company also claimed that the 360 is now the number one next-gen console in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, where it holds 42 percent of the market "in terms of life-to-date revenue." Microsoft also boasted of the high attach rate for the 360, with seven games sold per console, compared to 3.5 for the Wii and 3.8 for the PlayStation 3.

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Irve
Irve

darkride66 : So we're basically in agreement, See , i think if MS wanted the videogames market they could take it .. but they don't have the nuts .... The 360 has a great collection of high quality games , there aren't any must haves on the PS3 yet and it's got a presence in the stores. ... if they were willing to take the hit for the next year to 18 months and take as much of a hit on price as sony do they really could take over. imagine a $200 360 pro ! as for the RRoD it's the reason that i've not bought a 360 yet .. well that and i was waiting for the HDMI version to come out. but I bought all the machines for the last 3 generations of console .. so i know i'll buy everything this time round too. until this round of price cuts the biggest thing holding me back from buying a 360 was the fact that the PS3 was the same price as an elite but better spec'ed and the thing holding me back from the PS3 was a lack of games that interested me. Oh and i think your under valuing the steps MS have made regarding the RRoD .. they have given assurance to existing owners and have hopefully resolved the problem with their newer hardware ... however it would be interesting to see if the figures back that up in a years time !!

darkride66
darkride66

Irve. Shipped figures are all that the big three put out their results with. I believe vgchartz.com compiles info from retailers, but at the end of the day their figures usually jive with official shipped numbers from the companies, as well as the NPD figures in the US and Fatsuma(?) in Japan. Either way, I'm not ignoring the 360's poor showing in Japan anymore than I would ignore France and Spain's non-existent showing for the 360. If usually just look at North America vs the world for sales figures, but if you remove Japan the PS3 is still projected to overcome the 360's total sales this year. It's no secret that the PS3 is sold at a loss, or that MS claims they make money off every 360 sold at this point, it doesn't change the fact that they need to build on their installed user base in Europe before they're left in the dust, hence the price cut. I think the 360 has been marred by the RROD fiasco, on top of their current price. Would you buy a TV if one in three would fail, even with a 3 year warranty? How about a car? A computer? It's still a mystery to me why North America embraced the 360 as they did, and I'm a 360 owner. I tell you, when my 3rd 360 went on me it almost became more of a projectile than a games console, but my excuse is I'm a 30 something gamer with more money than brains.

Irve
Irve

before you say it iknow they say they don't .. but their "accurate projections" aren't overly scientific and basically still amount to shipped figures.

Irve
Irve

Oh ... and your still ignoring the fact that Sony has 2 million sales in Japan that the 360 will never have so the sales figures aren't really directly comparable ! Interestingly i'm convinced that the sales figures on vgchartz are shipped figures rather than actual sales ... in which case that makes the Wii's figures even more impresive ! .... 20 million Wii's and mario galaxy still sells poorly .... the wii owners should be ashamed !!

Irve
Irve

darkride66 Well i've got to admit that's why i mentioned the Wii .... i think it would be interesting to see sales between the two if that was all the market had to offer. Hardware reliability is another factor ... your right , MS still has a problem convincing people it's under control and we hope that the early machines problems are behind us. personally i think .. and i could be wrong it's just my opinion .. that the 360 sales are drying up because the price is too high .. there are only so many people willing to spend $300+ on a games machine. MS were so concerned with showing that they could get the gaming division in the Black that they didn't push for more hardware sales and the next step of real price cuts in the US will be the ones to watch but and i'm sure i'll continue saying this till i'm blue in the face sony shifted their price because they had to , even though they couldn't afford it .. MS on the other hand STILL sell the 360 at a profit and if you want verification of that feel free to e-mail the editors of Edge which has to be the worlds most respected video games magazine (writen in english) or the guys over at game central.

darkride66
darkride66

Ozzie234 said "You're delusional darkride66. The Ps3 had a small bump in sales a month ago, now things are back to normal; 360 ownage." That's an easy rebuttal. Look it up. A three year old could look at the sales figures and tell you that the PS3 and 360 have sold almost exactly the same since their respective launches. The only thing that sets them apart was the 360's head start.

Ozzie234
Ozzie234

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Ozzie234
Ozzie234

Everyone knows it: 360 ftw!!!

darkride66
darkride66

Irve. AngelsongCA, take note. That's how you do intelligent conversation. Back it up with something, or have well thought out points. You'll be taken more seriously. I still disagree with Irve, though. The PS3 was able to match the 360's sales while competing against the established 360 and the red hot Wii. Sony stumbled a bit out of the gate but I feel quickly addressed the situation and got it together in under a year. MS still has hardware issues, even with their new consoles after 2 1/2 years on the market. I would think that would be more of a priority than warranty extensions and price cuts. Fix the underlying problem. As for the 360's first year in sales, from Nov 05 - Nov 06 they moved just over 6 million consoles where the PS3 moved the same from Nov 06 to nov 07. The 360 didn't cross the 10 million mark until May of 07. This can be verified on vgchartz. MS sales numbers are a bit confusing to some as when they quote sales figures they refer to their fiscal year and not the calendar year.

Irve
Irve

Darkride66 & AngelsongCA You know what .... that's a valid point .. PS3 sales are rubbish because they are only matching the 360 sales in it's first year .. where they should be taking over the market. I'll agree with that but i think it's just as much a case of the 360 selling as well as MS could have hoped for in it's first year. and darkride to back up the mish-mash that was the life of the PS3 at least over here in the UK it launched at £425 .. and was cut to £300 .. it's not quite a 1/3 .. it's 30% .. and yes it's a lower spec machine .. but it's all we're left with over here ... so there is a direct conparison .. the 40gb non BC machine is here for a reason because sony had to make it cheaper to compete. However for the dream of US price cuts .. i wouldn't guarentee it .. as i've said before the 360 was overpriced over here before this cut .. the PS3 and Elite were the same price ... which is madness as we didn't have a movies/tv download service and the PS3 has a blu-ray drive and Wi-fi built it ... it was just better value ! It is a fact that in 1 year the 360 "sold" 10mil in just US and Europe and the PS3 has taken the same time to sell 10mil in US , Europe and Japan ..... However i think we are all discounting the effect the Wii has had on sales ... many people have put their money in the Wii and are happy to wait a while till they joint the Wii60 or PSWii camp.

Frozenchild
Frozenchild

199€ thats the price cut, now were even with the u.s 199€ is equal as 300 american dollar

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

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darkride66
darkride66

AngelsongCA stated "As long as you're posting here the main subjects will be lost in a sea of misdirection." I think my record speaks for itself. I don't state anything I can't back up with solid facts, decent reasoning or verifiable sources. When I state my opinion, it's obviously my opinion and I never paraded off as anything but. You take great lengths to try to rationalize your double standard for what constitutes a success for video game sales but you only succeed in highlighting your problem. It's a double standard. Explaining why you feel justified in having a double standard doesn't change the fact. You never have facts, never back anything up with anything remotely resembling anything other than full on frothing fanboyism. You even keep repeating the PS3 cut their price by a third. I didn't correct you on it, but where are you getting that? Do you even know how much a third is? The 60 GB PS3 was $600 to start. To be a third it would have to have been $400. It's not. The 40 GB is $400. They're not the same, you see. So how's about you let the gamers around here discuss game issues without turning it into a 360 love-in, because I've seen you do nothing but hound people for daring to take the view that maybe, just maybe, the sun doesn't rise and set on the Microsoft Xbox 360 video game console. You probably don't even know what this article was about, or what we were talking about before you came riding in to declare that "PS3 games sales are crap." Give it a rest.

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@trw534 "The xbox is awsome but i wish the price cuts were in america also." They aren't far off. After almost two years Microsoft only trimmed a small amount off of the systems. They are able to drop the price by a much higher amount. You'll see by how much soon.

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

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AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

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AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@darkride66 "I fail to see how Sony cutting prices to stimulate sales is negative in any way, shape or form. I don't even know what you're arguing." Again, it just points out the flaws in your comparison. Like a broken record I'll repeat. You tout PS3's sales in it's first year as if it's something to be proud of. Considering what Sony had to do to achieve them, it isn't an impressive feat at all. Or, worthy of recognition in comparision with XBOX 360's first year sales. You say Sony didn't reach Europe for 5 months, Microsoft has been near dead in Japan for 2 years yet they still sold as well as they have. It shows XBOX 360's strength in the U.S. and Europe(This is where practically all of the sales come from). It is clear that Japan has forsaken them. That's all I'm trying to get across to you. XBOX 360's sales were actually an impressive feat. Considering, Microsoft didn't have Japan to bloister it's sales numbers, nor did they have to drop the price of their game console by one third in their first year. XBOX had limited name recognition in Europe, and still saturated that once Sony dominated market with millions. Considering all of this, PS3's first year sales were no impressive feat at all, yet you try to tout them like they mean something in comparison with XBOX 360's first year sales. What they actually show is how poor PS3 did in it's first year, as Sony had recognition in Japan, Europe, and the U.S. In addition to this, Sony dropped the price of their game console by one third in all of those terriories. Also, PS3 actually sold decently in Japan and still sells there today. Sony was the market leader last generation, this gave them far more brand loyalty and attention. Even with all of these benefits Sony possessed, PS3 could only be on PAR with a company which had NONE of them. Sony was the brand leader last generation, yet they can only be on par with Microsoft, even while having so many benefits that Microsoft did NOT have, and to some extent still doesn't have today. In my view PS3 sold poorly in it's first year, BECAUSE it was only on par with XBOX 360's first year. It's a matter of perspective. If Microsoft had all of the benefits Sony had in it's first year there would probably be 30 million XBOX 360's sold right now. That is all.

Shivercraft
Shivercraft

When Europe is selling more PS3s than 360s, is it really shocking that the price is being lowered to stimulate sales? Common economics come into play here. The PS3 is starting to outsell the 360 in the states as well, so the price cut will more than likely hit stateside in the near future. To those that say people are cheap for online play......what are you paying for, exactly, that isn't free for PC users, Playstation users, and Nintendo users? Points and achievements? Doesn't justify the cost to me.....

darkride66
darkride66

I'm finished for today. It's like wack-a-mole with xbox fanboys around here. If you want to have a serious discussion of why the 360 needs to cut prices and what this will mean to the game industry relative to Sony and Nintendo, this isn't apparently the place to do it. All you'll get is garbage, misinformation and people who would rather beat their chests and praise one console then have a rational discussion about gaming. Fanboys are ruining gaming sites.

trw534
trw534

The xbox is awsome but i wish the price cuts were in america also

darkride66
darkride66

AngelsongCA. The Xbox 360 wasn't selling in Japan. Still isn't. I don't see how that matters to this conversation. And the PS3 wasn't selling in Europe, Aus, etc for 5 months, and matches and exceeds the 360 sales growth, with price cuts. So? You act like Sony's price cuts were a bad thing. They weren't. Just like the 360's price cuts aren't a bad thing. I fail to see how Sony cutting prices to stimulate sales is negative in any way, shape or form. I don't even know what you're arguing. Are you that it was bad for Sony to cut prices when sales are slow, but not for the 360 when sales growth slows? That would make sense, considering you think the PS3's sales are a failure even though they sell on par with what the 360 did from launch. You might as well tattoo "I LOVE HALO" on your forehead. I'll say this to you once. Pointing out slowing 360 sales is not in anyway anti-yourprecious360. I love the 360. Sales are slowing. Now there's a price cut. What's your problem?

darkride66
darkride66

7e5 pointed out "The only real reason you would buy a PS3 is either youre too cheap for online play, you want MGS or you want a blu-ray player." First off, we shouldn't have to pay for online play, it should be standard. Just like I won't pay for a demo of GT5, I will no longer pay for online when the PSN is fine, and getting better with every upgrade. Even the Wii has free online play. MGS4 never even entered into my mind. They've never been huge sellers, and certainly not worth buying the system for, but that's just me. There's over 140 games out on the PS3 now that I don't have time to play, so I'm not too concerned about MGS4. And yes, I did want a Blu-Ray player. I love my movies and I need something to make my Hi-Def worth it. So, the only reason to buy a PS3, over a hundred games, free internet for us cheapo's, blu-ray. Oh yeah, and they don't have a 33+% fail rate. I'm at a 75% fail rate with my 360's so far. That's frustrating.

darkride66
darkride66

xxgunslingerxx asked "How come when i posted legit sales facts i get thumbs downs?" It's because actual sales figures are the natural enemy of the Xbot. If you don't stop and bow down once a day facing Microsoft, expect to be thumbed down around here. Now watch this, this will be good. This is where the 360 fanboys start screaming about how well the 360 is doing and how the PS3 isn't selling, despite the PS3 selling the exact same as the 360 since their respective launches. Most 360 fans think that because it came out first, it won. How dare anyone challenge that fact, sales numbers be damned.

7e5
7e5

im with AngelsongCA on this one. When we consider history and common knowledge it is expected that the SKU's of these corporations will have price cuts, its inevitable. Yet Sony had to do this multiple times and alter their product many times its a question if they will do it again, at least Microsoft is offering consistent consoles, now for a cheaper cost than the PS3. The only real reason you would buy a PS3 is either youre too cheap for online play, you want MGS or you want a blu-ray player (which is an understandable buy for 300 GBP). Once again relate to history the PS2 had to cut their prices eventually and the Wii will finally have an opponent that is cheaper and offersa vast library of games.

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@darkride66 "And Sony was able to sell as well as the 360 without even having the PS3 released worldwide until 5 months into the game. Then it set sales records in Europe. What's your point?" That's neither here nor there. Were we talking about your comparison or were we not? Even in this comment you didn't include the fact that XBOX 360 wasn't selling in Japan, and PS3s were actually selling decently there(Great launch also). It's actually as though XBOX 360 didn't even release in Japan in it's first year. So that pretty much evens things up there. In addition Sony still lowered PS3's price in their first year didn't they. I actually don't see 'your' point.

xxgunslingerxx
xxgunslingerxx

How come when i posted legit sales facts i get thumbs downs? good job fanboys! anyways ill post them again and see how many more thumbs down i get ps3 outselling 360 since december(worlded wide) and just last week 75k units in europe vs 44k units in europe is the reason why ms is cutting prices

darkride66
darkride66

AngelsongCA "Sony saw their sales dropping month after month(In it's first year on the market), so they lowered the price. It was an act of desperation to get more sales." Yeah, like I said. As costs on the PS3 came down, they lowered their price accordingly. And that act of "desperation" seems to be paying off huge! "Microsoft sold XBOX 360's as well as it did in it's first year without having to drop the price of the console." And Sony was able to sell as well as the 360 without even having the PS3 released worldwide until 5 months into the game. Then it set sales records in Europe. What's your point?

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@darkride66 "No one says that since launch the 360 was a horrible failure and yet the PS3 had been selling exactly the same, and now better than, the 360 did from it's launch." The failing magnificently comment had to do with their sales before they dropped the price, obviously. You know that thing Microsoft didn't have to do in it's first year on the market? Microsoft sold XBOX 360's as well as it did in it's first year without having to drop the price of the console. Now lets say they did drop the price of XBOX 360 in it's first year like Sony, how many would they have sold then? Sony lowered the price of PS3 by one third of it's original price. Lets do the same for XBOX 360. That would put the Premium XBOX 360 at $267. And, the Core XBOX 360 at $200. Both would be costing less in stores then the systems cost even now. How well would they of sold then? Your comparisions aren't relative. Sony saw their sales dropping month after month(In it's first year on the market), so they lowered the price. It was an act of desperation to get more sales.

darkride66
darkride66

AngelsongCA mentioned "The reality is that Sony had to bite the bullet, because they were failing so magnificently." This always brings a bit of a smile to my face, because it's such a double standard. No one says that since launch the 360 was a horrible failure and yet the PS3 had been selling exactly the same, and now better than, the 360 did from it's launch. So our friend AngelsongCA must be bitterly disappointed by the 360 so far if he somehow thinks the some performance over the same time frame (with a higher price point no less) is such a failure. "when production costs go down so does the price." This is also a problem. MS lost Wistrom for this very reason, for squeezing the manufacturers. Wistrom made 40% of 360's but called it quits just before Christmas. I suspect this had something to do with the 360 "shortage" after the 360 had after Christmas. As for the PS3's cutting, the PS3 was estimated to cost $840 US to produce (60GB) and was being sold $600. As costs dramatically came down, the price of the PS3 fell. They saw a problem, listened to consumers and addressed it. And it worked. Just like this price cut will move 360's. What's your point?

Zerosumgame
Zerosumgame

People on welfare can now enjoy xbox360 at a new low price! yes!

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@PS_Family "The difference is that Sony ® wanted to make a more affordable option to give an opportunity to more of its fans to taste a true next-gen, high definition experience." In it's first year on the market? The reality is that Sony had to bite the bullet, because they were failing so magnificently. Microsoft obviously wants to do what you just said, as it's been on the market long enough to warrant such action. In fact they could easily drop the price again later this year if they wanted to, when production costs go down so does the price.

PS_Family
PS_Family

@AngelsongCA The difference is that Sony ® wanted to make a more affordable option to give an opportunity to more of its fans to taste a true next-gen, high definition experience. The removal of backward compatibility is insignificant considering that everyone that considers himself a human being posses a Playstation® 2 console. The arcade version of the Xbox360 sounds more like a butcher job.

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@PS_Family "don't need to make an act of desperation like Microsoft's doing." You mean like dropping the price of your game console three times in it's first year of release? Shuffling SKU's around and butchering the hardware to do so? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Nearly three years after it's release the XBOX 360 dropped it's price and it's desperation? Why not call it passing the savings onto the consumer. A price drop was anything, but not expected at this point. I mean it's like history doesn't exsist to you. PS3 went from $600, to $400 in one year. Is that not desperate? Do the double standards not end?

PS_Family
PS_Family

That's the smartest decision Microsoft has done this generation taking into consideration that the console is in steady decline since the Playstation® 3 was released on the market. Sony and Nintendo are currently in a very comfortable position with both consoles flying of shelves and don't need to make an act of desperation like Microsoft's doing.

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@darkride66 "That proves to me that PS3 owners are a little more decerning than their 360 counterparts. Doesn't it surprise you a little that hot new titles are selling just as well on the PS3? It surprised me." Well you'd be right if you weren't assuming not so hyped meant bad games. Hot new titles are selling on PS3, but are dwarfed by their XBOX 360 counterparts in all aspects. This in addition to the fact that other not so hyped games are selling at the same time. In addition to that XBOX 360's exclusive titles regularly sell in the multi-millions at the same time, they even grace the top ten for quite a while. Hot new exclusives on the PS3 can't even break the top ten in software sales, much less multi-millions. Only multi-platform games seem to even pop up at the bottom of the top ten from time to time. If only mutli-platform games are selling, why would one need a PS3 to play them? On XBOX 360 not so hyped exclusives sell well, hyped exclusives sell well, hyped multi-platform games sell well, not so hyped multi-platform games sell well. On PS3 it seems only launch games, and hyped multi-platform games sell well.

darkride66
darkride66

AngelsongCA mentioned "Compare the sales of the lesser multiplatform titles and you'll get the bigger picture." That proves to me that PS3 owners are a little more decerning than their 360 counterparts. Doesn't it surprise you a little that hot new titles are selling just as well on the PS3? It surprised me.

darkride66
darkride66

gruntyboy. Hey, I understood your post! I've been using vgchartz for sales numbers because you work with what you have. It's simply to illustrate a the point anyway, and it's useful for that. No one is bragging about PS3 numbers, I was pointing out how they're growing to illustrate a point. The point is there's a shift happening worldwide gearing towards the PS3 and rather than pretending it's not happening, like MS fanboys are, MS is actually acting to help shore up their fortunes. They've had a great run and they deserve it for the excellent titles they've released, but that doesn't change the fact that they need to be concerned about their slowing sales. And they are. Hence the price cut. This was never meant to become a console war/flame bait statement. PS3's doing better. 360's slowing. MS acts. Let's see how it helps.

gruntyboy
gruntyboy

im sorry me not putting a few full stops in has screwed your brain up from reading what i say and im from uk and yes ps3 games do cost more over here GohanSSJZ whats your gametag on 360 you sound like a right good gamer lol or is it same as your name on here

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@darkride66 "I expected a bit more from you. Compare some of the software sales, relative to the userbase." Relative to a user base who not only buys the most hyped games, but at the same time also buys not so hyped games(That would be XBOX 360 owners)? Compare the sales of the lesser multiplatform titles and you'll get the bigger picture. PS3 games aren't in the top ten software charts for a reason. Relative to the other two systems PS3 software sales are crap in the U.S. and U.K.

gruntyboy
gruntyboy

yes i owned a ps1 a ps2 an n64 an xbox and now a wii (for the party side of it)and a 360 for the games and sorry but i was trying to be polite with ya,looks like you aint having it though......where the **** have you mentioned this news article all you go on about is sales volumes of ps3's i went on that site did the line graph and yeh ps3 is a little ahead according to that site till you read below and it says doesnt include all figures worldwide,so to be honest that site is irelavent for figures..dont mean to come across as hostile towards ya am i nice gamer just dont see the point in bragging on incomplete figures for ps3 in a page that is ment for 360 price cut your in wrong area of the site mate

GohanSSJZ
GohanSSJZ

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darkride66
darkride66

gruntyboy. Try complete sentences every now and then, just as a friendly "how to be taken seriously" tip. I have no idea what you're talking about. Are PS3 games more expensive where you are? As a Canadian, 360 and PS3 games prices are exactly the same. Maybe that's not the case where you are. Good games in large amounts is all that matters to you? So you're a PS2 owner then? What's your point and how is it relevant to the 360 price cut? My point is it's not all smiles and sunshine for the 360 in Europe, which is why we have this price cut. So far the theories for the price cut around here have ranged from "Because Microsoft is so great," to "Microsoft loves Europe and has hearts as big as hubcaps."

gruntyboy
gruntyboy

darkride of course there not all multi but 80% are if not higher and i didnt say they would enjoy them less or have a worse version usually its the same im just saying ps3 owners have to pay more for the same game and 360 had a good few exclusives in its 1st year.and if you read my last comments i state that its my own opinion not fanboy rant id love a ps3 to complete my set but as i say out of my own opinion NOT fan boy rant the games what are for it i have cheaper on 360 and the 1s that are coming out are for fans of the prequels which i never was they maybe good but wont warrant my purchase.as for home ps3 fan boys herald it as a live killer which it just isnt maybe a year or 2 later it maybe as good but never better but hey there my views im not a fanboy what ever console has good games in large amounts i will buy i dont stick by brands because whats the point in brand loyalty for example shopping at only asda for all your life dont mean there going to give you a free shopping spree does it.what evers working for ps3 owners good for them its just not a wagon id like to jump on at the moment

darkride66
darkride66

AngelsongCA. I expected a bit more from you. Compare some of the software sales, relative to the userbase. COD4 sold 2.5 million on the PS3 and 4.8 million on the 360. Not bad considering the 360 apparently has 6 million more consoles out there. Sales of Burnout and Devil May Cry are neck and neck between the consoles. Assassin's Creed is 3.4 million on the 360 vs 2.3 million on the PS3. Considering the installed user base, it almost makes you wonder why the 360 isn't doing better. Of course the top 10 sales lists are dominated by Wii and 360 titles, but that doesn't mean the PS3 can't hold it's own. I love both the 360 and the PS3 but I truly can't believe the blind hatred directed towards the PS3, and it's based off complete nonsense 9 times out of ten.

darkride66
darkride66

gruntyboy said "140+ MULTIFORMAT" Are you for real? Of course they aren't all multiplatform, and even if they were, would PS3 fans enjoy them less somehow because they're on a different console? Your comments reek of fanboy. Passing judgement on Home before it's even out, downplaying games you've never seen and your last comments are bordering on idiotic. Troll somewhere else.

AngelsongCA
AngelsongCA

@darkride66 "Yep. There's a shock. So the PS3 sales not being to overcome a system that has a six million console lead in the US overnight must mean that PS3 sales are crap. Xbox fans must wonder why anyone would ever make another console period. The 360 was out first so it wins. What's a Wii?" Actually the PS3 software sales are crap. It's a fact regardless of the reason. And, the software sales are weak in the U.K. as well. People don't seem to buy games for PS3, maybe they actually think it is only a Blu-ray player.

darkride66
darkride66

Irve. I appreciate you taking the time to look. True, all things being equal it could take a couple of years at this rate. What the sales data doesn't emphasis is the growth at which the sales is accelerating. The 360 started off slowly and eventually started to take off more before leveling out. The PS3 during the same time frame exactly mimicked the 360 up until late last year where it accelerated, breaking away from the 360 in terms of sales. Have a look at the charts since the 360 came out and overlay the sales of PS3. It's surprising how similar they've been until the PS3 really took off before Christmas. I agree with you and hope I didn't come off a bit harsh. If you already have a 360 and are happy with it, there's no reason to add a PS3 unless you can afford it. If you don't have a 360 yet and were on the fence as to which console to buy, there's pretty compelling arguments on both sides. It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine when people sound off and just perpetuate misconceptions. Does the PS3 have less games than the 360? Of course it does. Is that a reflection on the system? After one year, hardly. The 360's first year up until Gears was pretty anemic as well. Perspective has been one of the casualties in these ridiculous console wars and that does a disservice to the majority of gamers out there who haven't taken the leap into this gen yet.

gruntyboy
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Irve
Irve

darkride66 you know .. looking at your VGchartz figures .. all else being equal the PS3 would take 39 weeks to catch the 360 sales figures oh and since when has 70% + been a good score in the world of Videogames .. a metacritic score of 80% or higher is a better one to look at Also i'm sure that there are a heck of a load of 360 games rated just as highly ... the problem is there isn't much on PS3 that a 360 owning friend can't say i've got that .. and it's just as good / better .. that make the PS3's sellnig point the Blu ray finally .. you want to look at the year 1 exclusives that the 360 had ? some top class in there !!! ( special pleading i know )