1666 was "to be the new Assassin's Creed," says Désilets

Assassin's Creed creative director and 1666 lead Patrice Désilets says that new IP would feature Rembrandt in some way.

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1666, the suspended new project from Assassin's Creed creative director Patrice Désilets, was intended to be on the same scale as Ubisoft's annual franchise.

Rembrandt's The Philosopher in Motion.

Désilets spent more than a year working on the game before he left Ubisoft in May, and before that at THQ. "[1666] was to be the new Assassin's Creed," said Désilets to GameReactor Spain (translation via GameRanx) during the GamesLab conference in Barcelona last month. "The first year was to build the team, to study [the historical era], but also to create a new IP."

The IP rights for 1666 are currently being fought for by Désilets. "I'm sorry guys, it was amazing. And it still is amazing, and I hope to get it back and finish it for you - and for me," he said.

Speaking about how 1666 would play, Désilets said it would have been something different. "It was not easy because I was a little guy jumping around with a sword, and [we] were making a shooter. We were trying something different, to expand borders again."

He also said the game would take place in Amsterdam and be connected to the painter Rembrandt. "Here's the only clue [I'll give]. Rembrandt was still alive in 1666, died in 1669."

Désilets said he took one of Rembrandt's most famous paintings, The Philosopher in Meditation, and embedded it into the design document for the game.

Discussion

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ghost590
ghost590

he should give up and never  get into the games industry again. everyone hates him because he isnt making AC. he is not aloud to make a new ips.  

gameguy182
gameguy182

This game sounds pretty interesting. I'm about to do a little research into the last three years of Rembrandt's life.

theKSMM
theKSMM

The caption of the picture incorrectly lists the painting as The Philospher in Motion.  That does sound like an intriguing game title though...Rembrandt meets Rambo...hmm...

tightwad34
tightwad34

How in the hell would it be a new IP if it was similar to AC which I doubt many of us want? It seems to me that it's just a way to milk the AC formula and that is the opposite of what I would do. Hope it never gets close to release.

BradBurns
BradBurns

I don't think that it's all that mysterious. 


As a history buff I know that the Dutch were involved in some pretty huge naval battles against the English at that time (That exact date). I'd be surprised if it had nothing to do with the battles/war.


The Dutch were allied to the French against the English. Strange fact, the Dutch were also owned by Spain, The most powerful country of the time, so they flew Spanish flags will fighting. They were technically Spaniards.

hadlee73
hadlee73

Perhaps all these developers that aren't working (but spending so much time yapping to the press constantly about how evil the world around them is) could get together and make their own studio :P

SamHadrian
SamHadrian

heh, I have that Rembrant painting as my iPhone lock wallpaper, Rembrandts style and the atmosphere of his paintings would translate beautifuly to a game, Greatest painter in history, imo.

manoogian
manoogian

make an AC game set in 1915-1919 armenia... Now that would be interesting... and edgy haha

Keeper_Artemus
Keeper_Artemus

I'd take 1666 Amsterdam over Revolutionary America.  If they had made Rembrandt the tech guy of the team or something I would've had to choke someone, so maybe this is for the best.

Sun-Tzu-GE
Sun-Tzu-GE

I fucking hate ubisoft.This guy created my favorite game of all time and after he left ubisoft they....well... to quote Tom McShea ,they dropped it off a cliff and spat on it.

AccursedGamer
AccursedGamer

I hope he wins the IP rights. Also the painting looks beautiful.

:)

SoulScribe
SoulScribe

So what, you help Rembrandt as a failing artist of the time with no money trying to regain his prestige? Sounds boring. Northern Europe during this era was prosperous and seems like a boring setting.

sethfrost
sethfrost

Late Rembrandt's life was pretty boring and AD 1666 in particular was a rather boring year? But I will play anything during any history period, if it is well made.

ethanm1834
ethanm1834

Well it's a moot point of course until the court settles this case. So it could be the next mario for all I care, it matters not if Ubisoft keeps the rights and never makes said game.

korvus
korvus

So it's going to be a mix of Assassin's Creed and The Da Vinci Code?

Evan0605
Evan0605

"My name is Patrice Desilets, and I'm God's gift to the video game industry." brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

jameson425
jameson425

Most of you in here sound like assholes whom don't know what they're talking about, He's comparing his new work to his old work as a reference and how would you know what the game plays like I haven't read enough to know about the game, so how are you gonna make a decision so soon... I'll leave you with this, alot of you talking shit about AC, and Dessilets I think it's a pretty damn good series except for AC3, COD is even worse and they're not doing anything new so you guys get pissed when someone tries something new?  It could have been more like Dishonored you never know, but then again they're will always be haters whom don't know what the hell they are talking about...

dogbert784
dogbert784

Désilets: "1666 will be the new Assassin's Creed. Give me the money to make it."

Ubisoft: "...Well, we can't sell it to players just like that. What are the other new aspects?" 

Désilets: "New aspects? It is made to destroy Assassin's Creed."

Ubisoft: "...With swords? Guns? And a clever use of European history?"

Désilets: "Yes." 

Ubisoft: "..."

thequickshooter
thequickshooter

Instead of rehasing the old gameplay and story 

why not make a new IP with different gameplay? 

chris230990
chris230990

What does 'new AC' even mean? Another series of re-hashed games with no innovation as the series 'progresses'? Complete nonsense.

TheAgingGamer
TheAgingGamer

Why is it people can't make compromises in the business world? Everyone is so greedy and litigious it does nobody any good and costs a fortune. If they are not going to develop the game themselves they should just work it out so he can finish the game in exchange for a portion of the profits and retaining the IP rights. Otherwise it'll just be a dormant property that does no good for their shareholders and makes them look like tools.

berserker66666
berserker66666

We could've got a new IP. (1666) Instead, we get Assfarting Greed 4. Good job.

Evan0605
Evan0605

Another GameSpot article on Patrice, the ass clown. Who the fuck cares about 1666 being the next AC? I expect this kind of article from Eddie but than again its GameSpot they always write bullshit articles on Patrice, Cliffy B, and now the Last of Us. How about this AssSpot... Let's write the article once the court has decided who receives or retains ownership of the IP. I hardly think this is game news worthy. "1666 was to be the next Assassin's Creed" How about "The court has decided to (insert headline)". I don't see this kind of bs article on IGN.

theKSMM
theKSMM

@tightwad34 I'm pretty sure he meant that it would be a massive, multi-part franchise on the same scale as Assassin's Creed (as stated in the first paragraph) rather than identical gameplay.

zaxrider
zaxrider

@tightwad34 I remember back when AC1 came out, it was the "Prince of Persia clone" game. Also, unless I'm missing something, the fact that he said it was going to be a shooter doesn't really sound like AC formula.

SamHadrian
SamHadrian

Not that any AAA developer would make a game with an art style influenced by Rembrandts paintings....

Goupil418
Goupil418

@Sun-Tzu-GE I still wonder which is worse, EA or Ubisoft? EA buys other companies IP and make sure they die, while Ubisoft makes their own IP and make sure they die... 

xsonicchaos
xsonicchaos

@scatterbrain007 You saw what at E3 exactly? Ah, wait, you're probably confusing it with The Order 1886.

Kyere
Kyere

@dogbert784 And they wonder why Ubisoft got rid of him. Because clearly Patrice is full of original concepts and ideas.


"Hey, let's release a game that is thematically and conceptually similar to my other franchise under the same company. Then release them at the same time! That won't over-saturate the market with the same effing game." Even CoD titles get released once a year, what Patrice wanted was essentially releasing the same kind of game twice in a single interim.

sargentpsgamer
sargentpsgamer

@dogbert784 He already had money to make it, Ubisoft had more money and took it, then canned it to preserve their precious Assassins milk.

Ladiesman17
Ladiesman17

@dogbert784

well, actually Desilet's studio (under THQ' management) were being acquired by Ubisoft, not the otherwise.

so no, he never begged money from Ubisoft.

oOhedzOo
oOhedzOo

@chris230990 In each episode they bring new game mechanics and new story to tell. I know what you mean but you don't have to expect they change their entire engine in a year. It is a sequel so you have to expect it to be a sequel done in a short time. The game is literally expanding with each new game.

TheAgingGamer
TheAgingGamer

@chris230990 I interpreted it as meaning historical fiction with a deep and arching storyline. Hopefully he didn't mean a game with an arching storyline that peeks with the second (common favorite) or third (my favorite) title and then goes downhill from that point. 

Garr3tt
Garr3tt

@TheAgingGamer like @sargentpsgamer  said ubisoft probably bought the company (THQ) and canned the project so as not to make competition to their flagship IP (Assassins Creed), managing to piss off Desillets who, by his account, had been working on the project for several years now. 

For all we know, that could be the very reason he quit (cough.... got fired!!!) and then sued ubisoft, asking for the IP back. Just a theory, anyways. 

I'm sure that with or without this new IP the gaming industry will be just fine as long as there'll still be fine gents such as ourselves to keep buying the games they produce. 

My only request is that they ATLEAST try to make the engines better with each passing iteration, and that they continue to tell us good stories through these games of theirs :)

at any rate cheers, and in the words of the immortal Cartman (south park) : "Screw you gang i'm going home!"  

sargentpsgamer
sargentpsgamer

@TheAgingGamer If they give it to him, then Assassins Creed has competition. Obviously he has good ideas and a good team, otherwise Ubisoft wouldn't be so afraid of it.

tightwad34
tightwad34

@Evan0605 Still, Eddie is the king of BS articles. IGN does have more interesting articles as they deal with all kinds of media, but their community is immature for the most part. They get off topic faster than a starving cheetah chasing it's prey. Not saying our community is better, but it's the internet and at least we stay on topic for the most part.

Kyere
Kyere

@Evan0605 Unfortunately dude, this garbage is even on Gamasutra. We can't escape the likes of Cliffy B. and Patrice.

Marky360
Marky360

@Evan0605
You think the game might suck? From the way it sounds it just seems there's not enough info to tell but hey maybe.

ghost590
ghost590

@theKSMM @tightwad34d [we] were making a shooter. We were trying something different, to expand borders again."

by new assassins  creed i was sure he was talking about how assassins creed was  going to be prince of persia  but changed. i dont see where he wants to milk the fourmla. he did create the franchise 

Kyere
Kyere

@Rayzakk @Evan0605 I guess everyone forgets that it was Patrice, i.e. God's Gift to Man, that essentially ruined the later conceptualization of future AC titles. Pretty sure 1666 will end up being just like AC1. Not live up to any of it's hype and end up being an average/mediocre experience only to be surpassed by it's sequel which will then be followed by mediocre sequels.

The fucking ego of this dude is unbelievable. He's officially joined the ranks of Cliffy B. Especially after that bullshit he pulled several weeks ago spouting on about how digital distribution "IS TOTALLY THE FUTURE GUYS AND ALL OF YOU ARE LOSERS FOR BUYING/WANTING PHYSICAL COPIES." Every time there's an article about this dude, whether it's on Gamasutra or here, it's just complete bullshit or egotism out of him. Especially considering the track record he has isn't exactly exemplary as I'd hardly consider AC3 a good game, or even AC1 for that matter. 

Evan0605
Evan0605

@sargentpsgamer @Evan0605 I do. My statement is from when GameSpot posts bs articles like this about Patrice or Cliffy B, I do not see IGN posting the same quoted articles about the subject matter. IGN still can post bs articles like the What Happen to Ricky Bobby article recently, but right now and all day so far no articles on Cliffy B opinions or Patrice saying "1666 was to be the next AC." 

Evan0605
Evan0605

@Marky360 @Evan0605 I don't care if it sucks or not. I was saying GameSpot yet again wastes the news section with another bs Patrice article that reveals nothing more than "oh 1666 was to be the next AC" 

sargentpsgamer
sargentpsgamer

@Rayzakk @sargentpsgamer @dogbert784 They don't want more games in the market that is similar and will saturate the fans. If a competing person gets it, he has potential to take sales away from their game. 

If they release both, then people will get tired of the "same game" being released so frequently. people already do with 1 game a year, imagine 2 games a year. 

 Like i said, Ubisoft wants to preserve their Assassins Creed. Otherwise they wouldn't have jumped to buy the studio and then canned the game as fast as possible..... Any other studio would see this title as a goldmine and want it out as soon as possible.